update Mad Tanks!

[Matt_Black 203]

Too soon to have formed much of an opinion on this experiment but a few things popped up.

Having Vikings sit perfectly still for 14 seconds makes them easier to kill.

If you have a couple of titans on your team in a capture game you'll win.

Double armour is too much.

I already miss the large maps. It took skill and cunning to play those maps well.

Mines will become much less effective which is a pity as they are a much under rated and under used part of the game.

20 seconds and 7 minutes before, 20 seconds and 5 minutes now. Tanki's maths doesn't addd up, proportionally we will be spending less time in battle and more time waiting.

 

 

[RAILBABA 0]

There will be 12 players in dm

 @ALEX22THEBEST 

[Spy 14,687]

5 minutes ago, ALEX22THEBEST said:

In DM mode how many players will be in battle, 12 or 16 ?

I assume that 16, since the DM maps are considered big maps.

[Modesty 79]

Are you serious? XP/BP tanks are 4 shots...

I just entered the game today, map Sandbox, shot the opponent once, shot him twice, didn't die, I thought he was lucky with the 3 shots... He took the flag, I shot him 3rd time and he still didn't die, his teammates killed me, an easy cap....

I was never interested in MM, and right now too I am broke with like only 5000 crystals, and that's for buying pro pass, playing this game just for XP/BP. For God's sake do whatever you want to MM, but don't make changes to XP/BP... We are already suffering without funds there.... and with that Hopper hull...

Edited November 4, 2020 by Modesty

[Maf 32,300]

25 minutes ago, Melance said:

keep "testing bad updates" in "test.tankionline" and let tankers know that it was added to test tanki so they can go and try it and give feedback and not add it to the main game for 2 weeks aka people will struggle during that period at least 3 days of testing is acceptable but 2 weeks struggling to get 1k score nah g

Topic merged

Please read the first post of this topic carefully, as it explains that the test server would not be enough to get realistic results from changes this extreme. It had to be done on main servers.

[Bydo 20,119]

not enjoying this new battle event..

see like I complained in forum event . timer is a huge issue. see normally we should be getting a full 7 minutes on the clock but in theory were only receiving 6 : 45 or less .. giving players less battle time..

for the event 2 issues

first Score page player list is way too small to see players names .

second the timer is not giving players a full 5 minutes of battle time.. again we loose..

more photo;s if needed can be provided

 

[Spy 14,687]

2 minutes ago, Bydo said:

 

Post merged.

Please share your feedback about the test in this thread. 

[Modesty 79]

1 hour ago, Dosheg said:

I do not like this experiment.

It is good that you are experimenting with matchmaking balance and trying out new stuff, but for me this experiment seems like a cheap, quick solution to the known problem of teamplay. Yes, you increased the HP of every hull, but with this update modes like TDM and TJR lost their sense completely. Tanki Online is based on fast gameplay, quick descision making and dynamic action. Now, the game lost it. If you want teamplay which is close to games like Counter-Strike, Overwatch, Valorant etc. you are doing a wrong thing. In the V-LOG you said that after the update, it will be even more important to play as a team, and not as an individual. Sorry, but Tanki Online is not ready for it yet. You just jumped over a lot of steps. 

Lets face the facts. Most of the people who are playing the game are just casual players, they do not care about win or lose, they just play in their free time, for fun. Those players do not care about teamplay and communication. Some of them can not even move their turret, let alone give quick information in the chat. So, how to fix this problem you might ask? If you want teamplay - introduce a ranked 6v6 mode, allow group of up to 6 players. Those people will play together against other groups, they will have teamplay because they ARE a team, they are playing together and communicating through Discord for example. Random, casual players will just play in casual modes.

 Now, or even before the experiment, matchmaking teams are not real teams, they are just random players who play together not as a team, but as individuals. If you increase the HP even more, increase it 10 times, it will not change. There will be no teamplay in Tanki Online if you just change matchmaking settings. You have to introduce something new. What you did is not new. It is just messing around with numbers.

This update is good for casual players who are not good at the game, now they are dying slower. You already introduced the spawn protection for those people. Stop supporting them. If they want to play better - they should learn how to, and not wait for developers to incroduce another update that makes the game less dynamic. For me or other players who actively play the game and understand what is going on, this update just makes the game boring. Not bad, just boring. I can play a few CTFs, but not the whole day anymore. Like I used to do. I know this is only an experiment, but I do not like it. I will be happy if you remove it after two weeks and never come back to even think of something like this in the future.

Thank you.

Salute to you for daring to write this, I hope they don't remove you from the Helpers Team, Everything so well said!

[TWQA12 1]

If they are removing big maps and at the same time doubling the health for the faster smaller hulls, than they should remove the shaft(sniping) and heavier slower hulls from the game as well!  

It's no longer fun to play with shaft. The new changes mostly have nerfed shaft.

I've lost my interest for this game.

 

 

 

 

Edited November 4, 2020 by TWQA12

[kumee 30]

1 hour ago, Viking4s said:

my weekly missions "kill 500 tanks" suddenly became twice harder... Good that I have only ~40 left to kill. 

4 hours ago, ethios said:

You have eliminated from my favorite maps:
 Highways, Massacre, Stadium, Solikamsk, Brest.
 With that, also taking away the possibility of playing with
 my favorite turret that was the shaft, as it became ineffective. 
Another negative point, you killed the function of the drone booster,
 with the bodies with double the armor.
 Anyway, this is related to my willingness to play,
 because you change where it is not necessary.
 You had hit the change in missions, it was too good to be true. 
You guys made bad updates to the game again.

 

[Bydo 20,119]

I'm going to add to Dosheg  comments

if players wanted to do team battles , this is what Pro passes are used for . leave the MM system in regular battles alone. just fix the timer..

for the Experiment..  I can't see this is one  staying. even if you tweak it . the game play is just not worth playing. see I now can finish my missions in less time then before , making me play less .

 

[Deniz 86]

Guys imagine playing mots solo (with drops) , just get a nitro and try to cap flags, ur 4 shots anyway)

[Momentary 396]

31 minutes ago, Spy said:

Post merged.

Please share your feedback about the test in this thread. 

Didn't he post his feedback about the test on this thread?

[Venerable 2,967]

14 minutes ago, Bydo said:

I'm going to add to Dosheg  comments

if players wanted to do team battles , this is what Pro passes are used for

 

Absolutely.

Team-play cannot exist in a system where random players play together for very short periods of time. Honestly, there's no point in trying to induce team-play in MM.
Have you ever seen a team-mate drop a flag near your base, letting you get the points by capping? If yes, you can be 100% sure that that player plays Pro battles frequently or is an eSports player. 

Have you ever seen Dictators searching for teammates or calling out to them via chat when their OD is ready? It's rare. But it also happens for individual gain.

Have you ever seen tanks coming in the way of an enemy JGR's salvo to save their JGR? I think it almost never happens. 

 

Anyway, while playing MM, I rarely feel like playing for my team. The atmosphere is such that you can't afford to play for your team. You don't come in between the enemy JGR's salvo to save the JGR - you intercept those rockets only if you are sure that your JGR will die, and you'll hopefully die soon, in time to become the next JGR.

I feel team-play is not suited for MM. The closest you can get to team-play is grouping, but that too rarely helps.

 

As Viking4s mentioned, I think this experiment is more for bringing back players and slowing down / reversing the dwindling of the player-base, than inducing team-play. If it's true, it won't work. 

This is my opinion.

Cheers!

EDIT: Don't worry Maf, I will still try out the new system, give it some time, and then form a well-thought opinion. But my first impression itself was pretty bad...  :c #HopperOP

Edited November 4, 2020 by Venerable

[superADIT 43]

so can someone plz tell me that in the event where all will be jgr would we be able to use supplies with jgr or our jgr will be just like the team jgr mode simple play and no double armor effect on that 20k hp and no double damage effect on that 3-3.5k turret damage??

[Venerable 2,967]

Just now, superADIT said:

so can someone plz tell me that in the event where all will be jgr would we be able to use supplies with jgr or our jgr will be just like the team jgr mode simple play and no double armor effect on that 20k hp and no double damage effect on that 3-3.5k turret damage??

I have a feeling that we will have to use our supplies. Also, the modification of JGRs may depend on the modification of the gear you had equipped before joining the battle.

This is what I feel.

But, during Hovering Railgun event, everyone had same equipment... so hopefully we may have the same equipment (of same modifiactions), and protection modules won't matter. However, supplies might play a decisive role.

It's all speculation on my part lol... 

[Spy 14,687]

19 minutes ago, 1x2 said:

Guys imagine playing mots solo (with drops) , just get a nitro and try to cap flags, ur 4 shots anyway)

The test won't last until Mots Solo, it's just for 2 weeks.

 

[Deniz 86]

Just now, Spy said:

The test won't last until Mots Solo, it's just for 2 weeks.

 

k

[superADIT 43]

3 minutes ago, Venerable said:

I have a feeling that we will have to use our supplies. Also, the modification of JGRs may depend on the modification of the gear you had equipped before joining the battle.

This is what I feel.

But, during Hovering Railgun event, everyone had same equipment... so hopefully we may have the same equipment (of same modifiactions), and protection modules won't matter. However, supplies might play a decisive role.

It's all speculation on my part lol... 

so if we got to use supplies then ur jgrs will do 6-7k damage with turret shot if we hit a jgr with no double armor xD but imagine so many big tanks on a map gameplay is going to look a lot weird lol it will look like as if there is very less space on map

[TWQA12 1]

22 hours ago, Zackery459 said:

 

They should have tested the changes on test server, before applying it directly to the game (very unprofessional)! 

These new changes have ruined the game! 

Tanki Online is now only an EXPENSIVE game that TOTALLY SUCK!

I quit playing this game!

Edited November 4, 2020 by Thiedes
Kindly refrain from using profanity

[Melance 33]

1 hour ago, Maf said:

Topic merged

Please read the first post of this topic carefully, as it explains that the test server would not be enough to get realistic results from changes this extreme. It had to be done on main servers.

but why 14 days?

[Hugoslav 162]

I find this experiment a big disappointment. 

This experiment, made the game unplayable, vastly. WIth this update the ability to enjoy the game has descented for me. Kills are impossible. No matter how hard you try, without the help of someone killing an enemy is simply impossible. This brings us to the main factor. The team cooperation. Yes, great idea, however impossible, people who camp all the time with their shaft and titan, just wont suddenly go and help you if they see you having trouble. If there were a voice chat for example, it could be considered. But this is nonsense. Then, the damage & health increase. Before the experiment implemented, the joy from killing was there, and I as a player had a feeling of simply a fast process where i kill players, they kill me and somehow the game ends with a winner and a loser. Now I find the whole game exhausting and tiresome. The 5 minutes per match feel like an hour. 

Next point is, KD. Keeping a KD of more than 1.00 is impossible (keeping 1.00 too if you do not have 9999GS), that is caused by less players in the match and less time.
And not to be only negative I like the fact u removed Highways, but thats just because i find the map awful. 

Conclusion: This update has made the game tiresome, slow and not fun. I personally feel that it should be removed after the trial period:

If you've read all of the paragraph I sincerely thank you.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                               regards, Atomyo.

[Galileo 3]

So my opinion is that the update is bad.

1. The battles are 5 minutes long which is good I think, but the health points doubled make the game boring and slow. I also can't kill as many tanks per minute as before.
2. Also I noticed that the GS colours are different (which I don't mind about), but also that the for ex. capture of a ball is not shown in the recent kill list in the top right corner.     I hope this is a bug so overall I don't find this thing that important.
3. The viking overdrive for example is TOO long. It should be like max. 1,5 of the original time.
4. I also noticed, that the matchmaking system is now a little bit broken. I hope it is a bug as well, but after this last update the battles can't fill even these 6v6 maps.                 (I am a legend rank and before the classic 7v7's were filled really quickly, also the number of players online is the same as before.)

[dolarichi 30]

2 minutes ago, Atomyo said:

I find this experiment a big disappointment. 

This experiment, made the game unplayable, vastly. WIth this update the ability to enjoy the game has descented for me. Kills are impossible. No matter how hard you try, without the help of someone killing an enemy is simply impossible. This brings us to the main factor. The team cooperation. Yes, great idea, however impossible, people who camp all the time with their shaft and titan, just wont suddenly go and help you if they see you having trouble. If there were a voice chat for example, it could be considered. But this is nonsense. Then, the damage & health increase. Before the experiment implemented, the joy from killing was there, and I as a player had a feeling of simply a fast process where i kill players, they kill me and somehow the game ends with a winner and a loser. Now I find the whole game exhausting and tiresome. The 5 minutes per match feel like an hour. 

Next point is, KD. Keeping a KD of more than 1.00 is impossible (keeping 1.00 too if you do not have 9999GS), that is caused by less players in the match and less time.
And not to be only negative I like the fact u removed Highways, but thats just because i find the map awful. 

Conclusion: This update has made the game tiresome, slow and not fun. I personally feel that it should be removed after the trial period:

If you've read all of the paragraph I sincerely thank you.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                               regards, Atomyo.

Or just git gud noob

 

[dolarichi 30]

Im a goldhunter and i couldnt care less about MM but they doubled hp so its harder to kill kids in parkour with my overpowered equipment(when i do get it which is black friday probs)  if this update were to be implemented so that would suck. Maybe only increase hp by 50% or something cuz doubling it literally makes it impossible to kill and weapons like smoky are literally rendered useless