update Drones & Supplies update

[NikmanGT 4,362]

Defender should had been left unchecked and booster should had been nerfed from 200 to 100 or so.

[fghjkl54 1,517]

Just now, nikunj04 said:

 

i think 50% is fair especially for light hulls to not begin killed in a single hit FOR 30 SEC

and for defender it would be better to stay a counter to booster

Edited October 10, 2021 by fghjkl54

[Akame 4,578]

Okay all of you need to pause for a moment.

If Booster and Defender are weak, why am I seeing plenty of them everywhere???

Also for those of you who don't do a lotta math, some visuals:

Spoiler

 

Let me make it clear.

A Defender of drone level X will make the same level Booster deal the same damage as if both players had a basic drone. This is the motive of the balance.

The current booster, limited by not letting people deal crazy high damage counters, but great sustained dps.

Booster was especially held and then was used the instant it wanted to deal insane damage, for 3s, and then regular damage.

400% for 3s, and 200% for 27s, comes to an accumulative total of 6600% damage. And yes, I am excluding any supply refreshes. This comes to an average 220% damage per second on a regular run. Comparing that to the current Booster, which is 250% damage per second. Stop crying, you technically feel a buff, unless you're that one railgun/magnum/shaft player who likes to spam booster on juggernauts, sucks to be you if the case.

As for defender, the old defender basically was a tank wearing a 33.33% spectrum module, now with the change, it has become a tank that wears a 20% spectrum module. Needless to say, if you use a module, it makes the protection vastly higher.

 

So for what nonsensical dramatic statements everyone is making about, oh defender is useless, oh booster is useless. It is still more than effective, and yet continues to dominate games.

And yes, Crisis, even with it's limitations has some absurd values which need to be nerfed.

 

Before the change:

With this current change; players have a slight option to actually try something that might work.

Edited October 10, 2021 by Akame

[mjmj5558 2,346]

5 hours ago, Vious said:

Defender is a joke now,

Oh defender is useless? Equip brutus and see how useless it was.

19 hours ago, RIDDLER_8 said:

@Spy

Drones are useless now. That is the reason why i am stating that all drones should become stronger, especially the booster drone.

Same for this one. Drones are useless? Unequip your drone and see how useless they are.

 

Everyone who is complaining used booster/defender all the time, and couldn't even imagine playing without these highly overpowered equipments. Now that defender was finally adjusted, and booster got a massive change which was rather a buff than a nerf, these people think that the mentioned equipments got a so huge nerf because they can't feel that powemr they felt before. However, it's just that they completely relied on that power, not on their skills.

[Incorp 2,084]

Hey, if drones are powerful, what if someone doesn't have a drone? Then he will be underpowered. Therefore, if drones are weak, ain't that supposed to be balanced?

[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

I agree that drones must be balanced for everyone, but that does not mean that drones have to be nerfed at a point where they are too weak to use in battles properly. What I would suggest, is for developers to re-buff all the drones again to a very strong level, keeping all the drones balanced for everyone to use so that all players can properly benefit from using strong drones, and keeping the overall game balance balanced for everyone.

[IMPULSE-WARRIOR 161]

5 hours ago, Akame said:

Let me make it clear.

You have and well said but, (there is always a but) in my post I pointed out what is and has dominated battles for a long time.. Lets face it, as long as the devs keep buffing/nerfing stuff to make more money then balance and the select few (buyers) will just carry on as they are, being non existent and dominating battles most of the time.

TO is far worse now than it has ever been and I cant see it improving any time soon. 

[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

Tanki Online is continuous improving. That means that this game is better and better all the time. That means that we always need new stuff such as good updates. I do understand that game balance must be respected at all times to make the game playable and enjoyable for everyone.

[DaringDeer 656]

On 10/9/2021 at 11:06 PM, IMPULSE-WARRIOR said:

You seemed to have left out the worst offender in all cap modes, especially CTF.

I have never seen a camper using saboteur drone fly to the enemy base and then fly back to make the cap.

I wonder why you forgot to mention that aspect in your post?

I was talking about frustrating stalemates in cap games.  Hopper doesn't contribute to that.  Rather it is a critical tool to prevent stalemates.  There are many games when getting to the flag and out again is impossible with any other hull.

 

14 hours ago, Akame said:

And yes, Crisis, even with it's limitations has some absurd values which need to be nerfed.

Shush 

[lssimo 1,559]

5 hours ago, RIDDLER_8 said:

I agree that drones must be balanced for everyone, but that does not mean that drones have to be nerfed at a point where they are too weak to use in battles properly. What I would suggest, is for developers to re-buff all the drones again to a very strong level, keeping all the drones balanced for everyone to use so that all players can properly benefit from using strong drones, and keeping the overall game balance balanced for everyone.

I think we can see how strong Drones are when comparing tanks without drones fighting tanks with drones.

Maybe most that are saying that drones are weak is because they haven't found an appropriate drone for their playstyle. I'm guessing since I'm not playing because of Ultra Weekend and 15 minutes battle time.

[yellowghetto 3,206]

Nerf Booster to at least 30-40%

[Spy 14,687]

2 hours ago, yellowghetto said:

Nerf Booster to at least 30-40%

Is Booster still too strong in your opinion? It's really fine for me, even when I face multiple enemies who use Booster.

[NikmanGT 4,362]

Indeed, the game is more balanced than usual.

[yellowghetto 3,206]

9 minutes ago, Spy said:

Is Booster still too strong in your opinion? It's really fine for me, even when I face multiple enemies who use Booster.

I actually thought old Booster was fine.

[Spy 14,687]

5 minutes ago, yellowghetto said:

I actually thought old Booster was fine.

It was way too strong and annoying to deal with.

[yellowghetto 3,206]

1 minute ago, Spy said:

It was way too strong and annoying to deal with.

3 seconds. Really? 

[Spy 14,687]

Just now, yellowghetto said:

3 seconds. Really? 

Yes, you could barely survive back then. Now it is possible.

[yellowghetto 3,206]

3 minutes ago, Spy said:

Yes, you could barely survive back then. Now it is possible.

Here's the thing. After those 3 seconds, you are back to normal. Balanced. With 30 seconds, now you will die even more than before. Keep in mind, once they use their BD, the bonus damage won't go away. Especially when everyone is using Booster.

Edited October 11, 2021 by yellowghetto

[NikmanGT 4,362]

45 minutes ago, yellowghetto said:

Here's the thing. After those 3 seconds, you are back to normal. Balanced. With 30 seconds, now you will die even more than before. Keep in mind, once they use their BD, the bonus damage won't go away. Especially when everyone is using Booster.

But that's what I was talking about, the buff to the booster is drastically decreased in contrast to its previous mechanics. It deals way less damage per shot while booster equipped, thus its increase in timing.

[Incorp 2,084]

Waw mechanic so expensive... should a bought it while it was cheap I won't think of it as a noobie drone anymore.

Trickster's speed is very easy to get addicted to; I feel positively sluggish when I don't use it; it's like bubble gum all under your tank. I am losing speed boosts amazingly fast, now 125 speed boosts from containers are welcome; so are batteries.

as for booster I'm gonna buy it in the November sales probably, as I need to conserve speed boost. Then while camping with shaft I can have a good drone which actually helps the damage as speed while sniping... meh.

Edited October 11, 2021 by Incorp

[Incorp 2,084]

14 minutes ago, At_Shin said:

I remember hearing warning bells when I found out that my trickster drone had used up more than 1000 speed boosts in a week. xD

Btw, try using Mammoth with trickster. It goes as fast as a Viking when you activate OD!

Doesn't it feel great when you get speed boosts from containers? 

Same will happen while receiving mines if you start using blaster/saboteur/miner. 

I used to use miner; I wasn't really worried about mines I got loads of them... I'm more write down about batteries that time.

My trickster only 7 upgrades too! 20 upgrades be like: I am speed!

Edited October 11, 2021 by Incorp

[NikmanGT 4,362]

People are now exploiting and speed running Miner drone everywhere, it's annoying

[Incorp 2,084]

17 minutes ago, nikunj04 said:

People are now exploiting and speed running Miner drone everywhere, it's annoying

I hate saboteur more; it soo annoying with a rico hopper ( yes, I use hopper... don't sue me ) and getting the flag... gonna deliver it in to assault Base! Yes!!!!! Then BAM. huh? I'm dead?? See kill feed; so and so mined me. GRAHHH!! I could've scored and won for my team!!!

I feel sorry for the enemy team...

Also I had to use brutus now wahhh

Edited October 11, 2021 by Incorp

[IMPULSE-WARRIOR 161]

21 hours ago, mjmj5558 said:

Oh defender is useless? Equip brutus and see how useless it was.

Brutus is a F2P only drone and as you stated, Its USELESS.

Defender costs a lot of money to upgrade and is supposed to negate damage to give you a advantage over your opponents, it has not done this for a very long time.

All of you can state facts and figures until the end of time, but it does little to help those who can't buy their way out of this quagmire that TO has become. 

As I said in my previous post, certain overdrives and all these status effects, EMP, STUN, etc have made defender null and void as a useful counter in battle, especially at legend rank against maxed out 9999 players. 

One last point, having to max out any drone costs a fortune in crystals, even the USELESS brutus, which loses any meaning past the WO ranks.

TO as a fun go to game no longer exists, the devs have made sure of that. 

[NikmanGT 4,362]

6 minutes ago, At_Shin said:

Haven't seen even one in battle. I am talking about this miner drone -----> 

Did you mean Saboteur?

I mean miner only , I've played more than 50 CTF matches today,  saboteur's popularity was nothing compared to miner's. People are literally spamming it and placing 50-60 mines and getting free kills. Also, the most annoying fact that killing them isn't doing anything good.