challenge December Challenge I

[2shots2kills 2,367]

Watch the Devs buff Wyvern's Breath once the December Challenge I expires...

Anyway, it should really get a buff, it's awful compared to most premium augments. Give it standard damage on critical hits (instead of it being reduced) and make the last shot guaranteed to freeze the target. 

 

And even with that, I would still use Stunning Pellets over it.

[TheCongoSpider 8,943]

Just now, 2shots2kills said:

Give it standard damage on critical hits (instead of it being reduced)

It already has standard damage on the critical hits. 

[mjmj5558 2,346]

Cyro hammer sounds interesting to use, and dictator EMP immunity will come handy too. Too bad i have all the augments from the silver tier. 

[2shots2kills 2,367]

Just now, TheCongoSpider said:

It already has standard damage on the critical hits. 

So it got changed? I was basing my statement upon reading the Wiki

[numericable 2,375]

5 minutes ago, TheCongoSpider said:

Being bad compared to something else doesn't mean that thing itself is bad. You have better options. For someone that doesn't have better options, it is good. 

 

Dragon's Breath has halved critical damage. Wyvern's Breath does not.

I compared it with both, a premium item which was emp hammer because it fits in the same category (blth are premium items) and then, i compared it with dragon breath because it has the same level( dragons breath is better tho) honestly, even if i owed only slugger, i would use it over wyvern's breath.

[numericable 2,375]

8 minutes ago, 2shots2kills said:

Watch the Devs buff Wyvern's Breath once the December Challenge I expires...

Anyway, it should really get a buff, it's awful compared to most premium augments. Give it standard damage on critical hits (instead of it being reduced) and make the last shot guaranteed to freeze the target. 

 

And even with that, I would still use Stunning Pellets over it.

Not sure about this, not because they've done it once with blunderbuss, mean that they would do it also with other "weak" p2w challenge augments.

[TheCongoSpider 8,943]

4 minutes ago, 2shots2kills said:

So it got changed? I was basing my statement upon reading the Wiki

The critical damage penalties for all non-Freeze Cryo augments were removed in August after the Freezing effect change because they became weaker overall. For augment paramaters, you should check the dedicated augment pages instead. 

 

1 minute ago, numericable said:

I compared it with both, a premium item which was emp hammer because it fits in the same category (blth are premium items) and then, i compared it with dragon breath because it has the same level( dragons breath is better tho) honestly, even if i owed only slugger, i would use it over wyvern's breath.

That's ok. Don't say the entire augment is trash. There are better, more practical options (AP and EMP Hammer that let you choose when to directly weaken your enemy), but that doesn't mean the other augments are bad in a vacuum. They are bad compared to what is best. 

 

Do I think Wyvern's Breath is worth a f2p's hard earned 700 Tankoins?  No, I do not. That does not mean the augment is awful. Being in the same category as a broken augment does not mean it has to be broken as well. 

[DestrotankAI9 1,513]

So the pass this time doesn't quite compare to the last one, but that is kind of to be expected considering that the pattern seems to be strong pass -> weak pass -> strong pass, or something like that. With such a strong pass last time, no surprise that it is quite weak this time. EMP Immunity for Dictator is a very good augment though, and Wyvern's Breath isn't bad (although not top tier), and the silver tier with Dragon's Breath is pretty good - looking forward to that one personally since I have almost no Hammer augments (for when I finally get Hammer).

I think that it is a GOOD thing that the battle passes are sometimes weaker, and that we are not seeing something like EMP Hammer this month. Why? Well just imagine how IMBALANCED battles would become if we had the best-of-the-best augments available every time. And really from Tanki's perspective, they can't afford to give away all of their best augments every time or else everyone will have them very fast, and it will damage the game's economy too much (as well as battles becoming imbalanced, and garage augments getting further de-valued).

 

I do think Wyvern's Breath could probably do with a slight buff, as could all freezing effect augments. I also think that if they are giving out "weaker" augments they should combine that with "stronger" (more desirable) paints - like for instance finally giving out Night City with this pass, along with Wyvern's Breath would have made it worthwhile for some.

Edited November 30, 2021 by DestrotankAI9

[Let 1,398]

I have every single item, which will be in challenge tomorrow . 

But - Hammer's «Wyvern's Breath» augment is rly cool and GL Players. 

[numericable 2,375]

56 minutes ago, TheCongoSpider said:

The critical damage penalties for all non-Freeze Cryo augments were removed in August after the Freezing effect change because they became weaker overall. For augment paramaters, you should check the dedicated augment pages instead. 

 

That's ok. Don't say the entire augment is trash. There are better, more practical options (AP and EMP Hammer that let you choose when to directly weaken your enemy), but that doesn't mean the other augments are bad in a vacuum. They are bad compared to what is best. 

 

Do I think Wyvern's Breath is worth a f2p's hard earned 700 Tankoins?  No, I do not. That does not mean the augment is awful. Being in the same category as a broken augment does not mean it has to be broken as well. 

That augment should be available for crystals just like cryo round for smoky, a f2p tanker that would go for this pass would clearly get one of the worst augment out there. 

For example, It is like you buy a class D car for the same price as a class S car, of course you would say it is bad, if i pay 200k euros for a car, it is not to have one that has the same performances of a 30k car, you know what i mean.

Edited November 30, 2021 by numericable

[2shots2kills 2,367]

10 minutes ago, DestrotankAI9 said:

I think that it is a GOOD thing that the battle passes are sometimes weaker, and that we are not seeing something like EMP Hammer this month. Why? Well just imagine how IMBALANCED battles would become if we had the best-of-the-best augments available every time. And really from Tanki's perspective, they can't afford to give away all of their best augments every time or else everyone will have them very fast, and it will damage the game's economy too much (as well as battles becoming imbalanced, and garage augments further de-valued).

I get that, but this is a problem the Devs have created themselves by putting "premium" augments in the BP in the first place. Now they have set high expectations in the playerbase, and nobody is gonna waste their TKS on mediocre challenges. 

[numericable 2,375]

1 hour ago, 2shots2kills said:

I get that, but this is a problem the Devs have created themselves by putting "premium" augments in the BP in the first place. Now they have set high expectations in the playerbase, and nobody is gonna waste their TKS on mediocre challenges. 

The buyer will, or other people that want the bp for other stuff like nuclear energy or paints, or the hull augments 

Edited November 30, 2021 by numericable

[Mr.Spark 240]

Dragon Breath free :D

Only that

[tankiexpert1 105]

I haven't played tanki for like 5 months, but does anyone know where the skin container is for the challenge?  All I see is a nuclear supply drop thing.

[wolverine848 13,097]

2 hours ago, tankiexpert1 said:

I haven't played tanki for like 5 months, but does anyone know where the skin container is for the challenge?  All I see is a nuclear supply drop thing.

No longer available in Challenge.. Have fun!  

[Cleric 1,385]

1 hour ago, wolverine848 said:

No longer available in Challenge.. Have fun!  

And they replace it with what?? A consumable that allows you to use your OD immediately for once? Seriously?

I guess they "solve" the "what if a grinder already get all the skins from the skin container" problem

[numericable 2,375]

1 hour ago, Warpriest said:

And they replace it with what?? A consumable that allows you to use your OD immediately for once? Seriously?

I guess they "solve" the "what if a grinder already get all the skins from the skin container" problem

Thats not that, they said "challenges were giving reward that was more worthy than 500 tankoins so we had to put off skin cont and increase the price 700 tankoins to balance challenge's rewards and challenge's price. We firstly increase the price to 1,5k tankoins but nobody purchased the pass so we thought the best idea was no skin at the top tier and decrease its price to 700 tankoins" 

Ik thats some lame excuses

[tankiexpert1 105]

On 12/1/2021 at 5:50 PM, wolverine848 said:

No longer available in Challenge.. Have fun!  

Wtf, bruh... for a supply drop

[NikmanGT 4,362]

Lets goo, earlier wasn't happy that much why this augment was put in the BP, but now after the freeze patch update, I am a little hopeful ^^

[NikmanGT 4,362]

Collect them through intense grinding and waste them all on 1 match ^^

[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

[The_Voltage 178]

Freezing is still not so powerful. Make it applies this effect every third shot (not for 10 sec, of course). It makes more sense to randomly apply EMP or AP, because they're pretty powerful.

[wild001 1,422]

3 hours ago, The_Voltage said:

randomly apply EMP or AP, because they're pretty powerful.

That is exactly the purpose, make augment as powerful as possible while not broken,

emp/ap/stun need good timing, fire and freeze just addon bonus, while in compare

1. freeze can apply all effect continuesly,
2. telsa can apply all effect at wish every 6 sec;

3. gauss, striker, shaft need aim before making effect;

4. hammer can make effect on 3rd shot,

5. hammer, rail, twin make effect truely random,

6. Smoky need to build from negative critical chance before random critical kick in.

7. Rico, magnum apply effect if map has straight up bouncing wall, or lucky shot

[The_Voltage 178]

50 minutes ago, wild001 said:

That is exactly the purpose, make augment as powerful as possible while not broken,

emp/ap/stun need good timing, fire and freeze just addon bonus

Ok stun and EMP needs to apply with thinking, because first stop the target (you can stop enemy flagbearer) and second can accidentally refresh target's supplies if you're not ready to kill it. But AP is cool in any case.