Terminator Damage (one-shotting medium hulls)

[Venerable 2,970]

Hello!

A few days ago, I voted some Juggernauts in TJR mode because they were able to destroy my tank (Viking) in a single shot even though I had Boosted Armor active along with Armadillo (36%).

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EDIT: I was using the following equipment,

• Armadillo Mk7-2 (37%)
• Trickster 17/20 (92.5% passive boost to Boosted Armor)
• Viking Mk7-6 (2753 armor)

Turret and augments are irrelevant here, and I don't remember them anyway.

 

According to me, it is impossible to deal enough damage to destroy a medium hull with just 1 shot. Even if it's a critical shot, 36% protection is more than enough to ensure that it takes at least 2 shots. So,

1) Am I wrong?

2) If I have missed any update, I apologize for voting players unnecessarily. Please explain the changes to me, thanks! 

Edited March 2, 2022 by Venerable
Added info

[tank7 320]

Fully upgraded terminator does 3680 damage normally buy crit hit gives +100% increase in damage .Let's assume trickster lvl 18 which means 95% of double armor is active. So, your effective health is 1.95*3000 = 5850 hp. Since you have 36% armadillo, so damage inflicted = 3680(1 + 0.64) = 6035 hp. Maybe that's why terminator one shots you . If you had 42% prot armadillo you would have survived,

[tank7 320]

maybe you forgot to equip a drone?

[Venerable 2,970]

15 minutes ago, tank7 said:

maybe you forgot to equip a drone?

Nope, I was using Trickster (17 or 18 upgrades, not sure - but definitely more than 15, which gives a significant boost to BA)...

[alkyng 3,080]

Why you vote! I strongly believe damage cheats are not existed in the game anymore (if they ever have existed), Juggernaut have 6720dmg in critical, your Armadillo make it 4300dmg, with DA and your 17/20 drone I think your Viking armor considered as 5,775HP.  So you must survive with 1475 HP (1/2 of your health).  But definitely there is something wrong from you. You gave us a little details, how much your Viking is upgraded? And you may forgot something, like your drone.   If not, and you strongly believe there is some cheat, you can record - report.

[Venerable 2,970]

1 hour ago, asem.harbi said:

Why you vote! I strongly believe damage cheats are not existed in the game anymore (if they ever have existed), Juggernaut have 6720dmg in critical, your Armadillo make it 4300dmg, with DA and your 17/20 drone I think your Viking armor considered as 5,775HP.  So you must survive with 1475 HP (1/2 of your health).  But definitely there is something wrong from you. You gave us a little details, how much your Viking is upgraded? And you may forgot something, like your drone.   If not, and you strongly believe there is some cheat, you can record - report.

Interestingly, in one of the TJR battles, when I asked  "how one-shot?" in the chat, the enemy Juggernaut replied "cheats )". 

I apologize for not providing enough details.

I used Trickster drone (17/20, 92.5% passive boost to BA), Viking (Mk7-6, 2753 armor), and Armadillo (Mk7-2, 37%).
MM battles are more than 10 minutes long, which is enough time for a Battle Mod to join the battle and observe any violation of the Game Rules, in my honest opinion. The "Vote" option exists to inform Battle Mods in real time whenever there's a violation. Also, I couldn't record a video for multiple reasons (very low FPS, weak internet, etc.). 

Anyway, I was (am) lazy and didn't have enough knowledge of how critical damage works, so I am at fault. However, I don't regret voting the player who actually said "cheats" when I asked him about his suspicious one-shotting ability.

[Abellia 504]

8 hours ago, Venerable said:

Hello!

A few days ago, I voted some Juggernauts in TJR mode because they were able to destroy my tank (Viking) in a single shot even though I had Boosted Armor active along with Armadillo (36%).

According to me, it is impossible to deal enough damage to destroy a medium hull with just 1 shot. Even if it's a critical shot, 36% protection is more than enough to ensure that it takes at least 2 shots. So,

1) Am I wrong?

2) If I have missed any update, I apologize for voting players unnecessarily. Please explain the changes to me, thanks! 

What upgrade is your Viking at? Also, are you sure you weren't shot just beforehand?

edit: nvm just saw 7-6 viking in another post

Edited March 2, 2022 by Abellia

[Venerable 2,970]

18 minutes ago, Abellia said:

Also, are you sure you weren't shot just beforehand?

100%

I spawned, and by the time I reached the enemy base on Sandbox, the enemy Juggernaut had killed me with a single shot - no one else involved. This happened at least twice. In fact, it happened multiple times when I was using Hornet Max (Trickster 17/20, Armadillo Mk7-2), which is why I got frustrated and changed to Viking.

[NikmanGT 4,375]

1 minute ago, Venerable said:

100%

I spawned, and by the time I reached the enemy base on Sandbox, the enemy Juggernaut had killed me with a single shot - no one else involved. This happened at least twice. In fact, it happened multiple times when I was using Hornet Max (Trickster 17/20, Armadillo Mk7-2), which is why I got frustrated and changed to Viking.

So you got the answer ?

[Venerable 2,970]

13 minutes ago, NikmanGT said:

So you got the answer ?

Well, tank7 (kinda) answered it quite well, but I'm still unconvinced cuz I've been discussing this with a friend of mine on Discord too

Maybe wait for another answer ig and then close?

 

[NikmanGT 4,375]

Answered, closed.