event Scorpion. Early access.

[yellowghetto 3,206]

3 hours ago, sphdz_3153371 said:

can't wait for Helios augment for Scorpion...

Can't wait for Helios Smoky and Thunder.

[Fenrir 335]

Tried Scorpion on the test server. Honestly, it's quite strong and pretty fun - but not something I'd spend thousands of dollars trying to get from those shady loot boxes aka UCs.

[yuvraj007 302]

Buyers be like: It's our time to shine once again

[Fenrir 335]

1 hour ago, yuvraj007 said:

Buyers be like: It's our time to shine once again

That's a weird way of saying "it's time to get scammed again".

[Akame 4,578]

14 hours ago, TheCongoSpider said:

The turret isn't that horrid on paper, but oh boy when you start adding extra damage enhancement on it via Crisis, y'know, the drone used by the target audience of this Early Access period. It becomes obnoxious if you do not have protection against it.

Speaking of; 

 

[King.David 371]

28 minutes ago, Akame said:

Speaking of; 

 

Very balanced. The only thing I would change is to decrease the reload for the normal shots. 

[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

The Scorpion turret is indeed very well balanced.

[King.David 371]

Yes Riddler, let's give the devs a round of applause for all the wonderful work they've been doing. What would we do without them.

[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

Yeah, let's applause the devs for making this turret.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

9 minutes ago, King.David said:

Very balanced. The only thing I would change is to decrease the reload for the normal shots. 

Gotta keep in mind that this is specifically with Crisis. A normal Scorpion with Brutus would not be one-shotting medium hulls. They would be able to counter with DA + repair kit and live significantly longer, as well as being able to use a protection module against it. That's pretty much the issue with Booster and Crisis, Booster less so now. They take an otherwise fine turret and intentionally make its damage output "overpowered". I will reserve judgement of the turret as it is now until it becomes available for crystals.

Right now we are seeing how it does against people with no protection modules, specifically with people using it with Crisis because that's who this Early Access period is for. They get a free damage barrier break with Crisis and no protection modules to stop them. They get to eat well for the new few months. 

[King.David 371]

4 minutes ago, TheCongoSpider said:

Gotta keep in mind that this is specifically with Crisis. A normal Scorpion with Brutus would not be one-shotting medium hulls. They would be able to counter with DA + repair kit and live significantly longer, as well as being able to use a protection module against it. That's pretty much the issue with Booster and Crisis, Booster less so now. They take an otherwise fine turret and intentionally make its damage output "overpowered". I will reserve judgement of the turret as it is now until it becomes available for crystals.

Right now we are seeing how it does against people with no protection modules, specifically with people using it with Crisis because that's who this Early Access period is for. They get a free damage barrier break with Crisis and no protection modules to stop them. They get to eat well for the new few months. 

Lol I was being sarcastic. But yes you are correct. My main issue with Scorpion is the ability to lock on targets through obstacles, which, I'm positive would be removed eventually. That feature is very toxic.

[Dopamine 2,161]

5 minutes ago, King.David said:

Lol I was being sarcastic. But yes you are correct. My main issue with Scorpion is the ability to lock on targets through obstacles, which, I'm positive would be removed eventually. That feature is very toxic.

That and also the lock on duration is incredibly short, while the lock on  retention time too long. You can essentialy cruise through half a map and then decide to return to your "hidden" victim, to unleash the salvo.

I am not too surprised though. When the EMP salvo for Gauss was first released, it was in a similar OP ballpark, if not worse.

[fghjkl54 1,517]

1 hour ago, King.David said:

Very balanced. The only thing I would change is to decrease the reload for the normal shots. 

and decrease the damage of rockets and increase the aiming time

[Akame 4,578]

A static comparison for how far a tank will need to be to not get salvo'd. looks as though if you are within 60m at least, maybe up to 70m.

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The ability to change locking on to a totally new target certainly must be a bug, which'll need to be fixed asap. As for dodging at far ranges, if you can get closer to a higher obstacle, you should be able to avoid damage. Taller and bigger hulls are more prone to taking damage.

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Salvos cannot hit anyone that's close, so you won't have to worry about them if you're close to them, aside their strong arcades, so avoid line of sight. Also do use terrain as much as you can to your advantages. Some maps are terrible for this, some maps are crazy good for this

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Edited June 25, 2022 by Akame
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[YANUKFIN 493]

13 hours ago, Akame said:

, but I assume the ability to transfer locking onto a totally different enemy is a bug. Or an 'intended feature'.

Whichever it is they should let players know.

[LambSauce 1,884]

I believe this is footage of the Wolfpack augment for Scorpion (at 1:30):

 

[Incorp 2,084]

7 minutes ago, LambSauce said:

I believe this is footage of the Wolfpack augment for Scorpion (at 1:30):

 

Good old spark. Hes one lucky dude man. Wish there were more salvo shots tho.

[Akame 4,578]

3 hours ago, LambSauce said:

I believe this is footage of the Wolfpack augment for Scorpion (at 1:30):

 

Yup, that is wolfpack, unfortunately as good as it looks, it isn't as practical in most maps due to lots of actual obstructions being in the way.

[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

Scorpion is the great talked weapon of 2022!

[Only_Event 252]

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and therefore hit them even behind cover.

 I think this should be an augment for the turret not the turret itself do this without augments

[LambSauce 1,884]

17 hours ago, RIDDLER_8 said:

Scorpion is the great talked weapon of 2022!

Except that it isn’t because no one even knew it existed until it showed up in the Arms Race mode in June.

[Mr.Spark 240]

20 hours ago, Akame said:

The ability to change locking on to a totally new target certainly must be a bug, which'll need to be fixed asap. As for dodging at far ranges, if you can get closer to a higher obstacle, you should be able to avoid damage. Taller and bigger hulls are more prone to taking damage.

Yeah, it’s rlly big advantage.

Looking for someone and lock him for a while, target completely hidden juggernaut.

That’s how you kill juggernaut without moving from your base.

I noticed the bug and killed tens of juggernauts in that way 

I feel so sorry.

Edited June 26, 2022 by Mr.Spark

[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

I wonder if Bonk would ever be released as a garage turret.

[Compasser 41]

I test it myself for about 6 hours and to be honest, it is now powerful enough

the problem is that with crisis it can deal great damage (3380 with normal shots and 1300x10 with rockets), but with hyperion it is not that op(sometimes even can not kill any targets with rockets)

I have some suggestions 

1. reduce the normal damage from 1300 to 1150 so that with crisis it will deal 2990 rather than 3380. 3380 is way to much(slege hammer can not even have such damage)

2. make the projectile speed slower. For now it travels so fast that i can not even see the projectile(almost as fast as railgun i believe). 

3. Add a damage reduction towards the normal shots, make it reduce about 100-300 damage when it travels about 100-500 meters.(or, remain the 1300 damage unchanged, but will deal much less damage in longer range, which if combined with a rocket launcher that can only lock on targets that are nearby, could become a new augment make it a close range turret)

4. slightly enlarge the splash damage for rockets, and as a compensation, make an icon to warn the players that "you have been locked by the rockets!" (for now the rockets can not really be noticed before they almost reach u)

5. force the players to re-lock the target when the former target is lost so that players can not use the bug to lock a target first and then switch to another behind the wall

6. make the lock time longer, from about 2 seconds to 3 seconds, and the rockets reload time from 16 to 18 or 20 seconds, as a compensation, if the target is killed before the rockets reach him, the rockets will reload faster(i don't know if it is technically achievable)

 

All in all, i like this idea for this new turret.

And i believe there will be a lot of bugs that should be fixed (eg: yesterday i shot at my teammate once and i self destructed)

Edited June 26, 2022 by Compasser

[Dopamine 2,161]

5 minutes ago, Compasser said:

force the players to re-lock the target when the former target is lost so that players can not use the bug to lock a target first and then switch to another behind the wall

This.

Also the lock retention time is way too long in my opinion.