Question to Developers

[ghost-guns 1,486]

Will we get compensation for when we couldn't log in to complete missions?

[ghost-guns 1,486]

No battery no win.

[Jeers4U 665]

On 3/27/2023 at 3:45 PM, NikmanGT said:

Maybe you're right,

Now coming to your issue, direct obscene questions to the developers do not provide any positive input to the topic, neither they will be picked by

I guess your tanki definition of 'obscene' and the actual definition of 'obscene' are different.

And I mean, the direction this game/product is taking (and questions surrounding it) is the elephant in the room that no one is getting an answer from the actual person who can answer the question.

Edited March 28, 2023 by Jeers4U

[ELECTR0_DRAG0N 223]

@Jeers4U I noticed that the development team only answer questions from it's employees or those who spend at least 1000 dollars on their game account. They also never answer the good questions. Here's one I took directly from the Questions to Developers that I would consider a good question: "Are you ever going to improve the anticheat system so that hackers ACTUALLY get banned?"

Enjoy before this gets taken down!

Edited March 29, 2023 by NikmanGT

[SvinafellTroll 94]

On 3/26/2023 at 11:21 AM, Warpriest said:

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And guess how many poor low-level players get added to my game and leave immediately towards the 15 min play time?

Matchmaking isn't by gs. That could easily be abused if so. MM is by rank. The ranks in the pictures you have largely look correct. The main issue is having sub-generals going up against legends. Ex. I play on a colonel account and I either get shoved into a legends match or I get shoved into a low rank match. You have some examples of colonels in your legend matches. Thats just annoying for mid rank players. I now leave those stupid matches unless I have a daily and I feel like tolerating some pain.

 

I've said it before. All these amazing updates are driving newer players away. They're too good for us to handle!! So anyone under general can get shoved in a janky matchup and suffer (or have a low rank player suffer). As for the new star system, I absolutely will not be playing more. Theres no reason for me to play legends matches when they have mk8/meta drone while I have mk5/6/brutus.

Grouping is also the same. I'm a major and my friend is a lieutenant colonel. We want to play together but for whatever reason when we group, it's always a (freaking) legends match.

Edited March 29, 2023 by SvinafellTroll

[Cleric 1,385]

On 3/29/2023 at 1:00 PM, SvinafellTroll said:

Matchmaking isn't by gs. That could easily be abused if so. MM is by rank. The ranks in the pictures you have largely look correct. 

 

Yeah, I know how it works.

But at the end of the day, matching by GS is by far the fairest option out there. As for abuse, there are many ways to deal with that. It's just whether people are willing to find a solution, or just use blockers as an excuse and do absolutely nothing.

Edited March 29, 2023 by Warpriest

[TargetXAcquired 277]

On 3/28/2023 at 1:15 AM, NikmanGT said:

Only constructive criticism is to be provided on the platform,

Is that a fact! Then why has my extremely good idea been ignored so many times by the devs?

To reiterate my extremely good idea for the millionth time, you may merge this with QaA to the devs.

Make it so that crystals earned is at least x2 more than xp. Also make xp needed to rank between recruit and marshal higher by a factor of x3. This would help stop the mismatching in MM between ranks and give the lower ranks more valuable time to stay at a particular rank to upgrade it more effectively before reaching the next rank.

This is a good idea and should be implemented asap.

 

On 3/29/2023 at 4:17 PM, Warpriest said:

But at the end of the day, matching by GS is by far the fairest option out there

G/S is not the solution to fair play in battles.

What about a marshal who equips his best combo and gets a G/S of say 9750 hoping to go up against commanders at the most, but ends up in a battle against 3-4 legends with 9999. This marshal has nothing to fall back on and is completely stuffed from the get go. The fairest option would be to implement my idea and see a much better ranking system being played out in MM battles. This would ensure more players would stay at their respective ranks for longer, giving them a much higher chance of going up against ranks in battle who are much closer to their own rank, maybe 2 ranks either way at most. This is not about being "fair" per say, (although that is a by-product of my idea and a good one) but about fixing the abysmal MM system which has not worked since day 1. There are so many problems with TO, some of them are no doubt by design, while most of them are just ill thought out or cash making solutions with balance thrown over the nearest cliff to give their fav players "the buyers" what they want, dominance over the majority to make them feel good and special, which they of course are not. Gullible and weak minded sum them up much better. 

[Cleric 1,385]

On 3/29/2023 at 8:39 PM, TargetXAcquired said:

G/S is not the solution to fair play in battles.

What about a marshal who equips his best combo and gets a G/S of say 9750 hoping to go up against commanders at the most, but ends up in a battle against 3-4 legends with 9999. This marshal has nothing to fall back on and is completely stuffed from the get go. The fairest option would be to implement my idea and see a much better ranking system being played out in MM battles. This would ensure more players would stay at their respective ranks for longer, giving them a much higher chance of going up against ranks in battle who are much closer to their own rank, maybe 2 ranks either way at most. This is not about being "fair" per say, (although that is a by-product of my idea and a good one) but about fixing the abysmal MM system which has not worked since day 1. There are so many problems with TO, some of them are no doubt by design, while most of them are just ill thought out or cash making solutions with balance thrown over the nearest cliff to give their fav players "the buyers" what they want, dominance over the majority to make them feel good and special, which they of course are not. Gullible and weak minded sum them up much better. 

The case you mentioned is basically my exact situation. My only viable turret is Vulcan, period. Is that actually a problem though? Not quite.

[Jeers4U 665]

On 3/29/2023 at 8:02 AM, TargetXAcquired said:

Is that a fact! Then why has my extremely good idea been ignored so many times by the devs?

 

 

They don't want good ideas.

They want money making ideas from a dwindling player base.

[Jeers4U 665]

On 3/29/2023 at 8:02 AM, TargetXAcquired said:

G/S is not the solution to fair play in battles.

 

I believe the solution has to be Gear Score.

Ultimately, Gear Score determines how much damage you inflict and how much damage you take.

This is what determines kills and deaths. And this is kinda the point of the game in the first place. Nothing else.

(That's why almost no one chooses Isida)

 

Rank is only present in the game to keep you moving along with upgrading your tank.

If you keep playing the game, but don't upgrade your Gear Score as your Rank increases, you learn very quickly that getting one-shotted from the other side of the arena by someone of the same Rank who HAS upgraded their tank to a higher Gear Score isn't very fun at all.

Edited March 29, 2023 by Jeers4U

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

On 3/29/2023 at 5:47 PM, Jeers4U said:

I believe the solution has to be Gear Score.

Ultimately, Gear Score determines how much damage you inflict and how much damage you take.

And who's stopping me from equipping 0GS conbo and going up against recruits? I am a Legend with at least couple months of experience (or whatever the average time for reaching legend now is) even though most Legend ranks look braindead to us with years of experience for recruits theyre unbeatable force even if their upgrades are the same.

I am at 9999gs Legend 112. I don't use OP conbos I use fun conbos like Stun Rico, Healing/AP Shaft etc. Even with those average conbos im by FAR the best player in the leaderboard even outperforming OP nonsense like flying monkeys, pulsar twins, hyperspeed thunder etc. 

Gear score MM is not a solution. Alternativa refuses to reverse updates so the only way MM can be fixed is by adding good playing bots. Or just reverse couple of obvious updates that make MM trash. But they don't do that. Why? Ask them. 

[SvinafellTroll 94]

On 3/29/2023 at 10:47 AM, Jeers4U said:

I believe the solution has to be Gear Score.

 

Too easy to abuse. Just enter battles with mk1 equipment and change once you spawn in.

Possible solution: place matches based on the average GS of the last 1-4 battles. Easy workaround: sit through 2 battles with mk1 equipment and then use max equipment another 2 battles (and keep alternating). You will never have to play against max GS players anymore. Isn't that fun! 

[Jeers4U 665]

On 3/29/2023 at 12:01 PM, Kimura said:

And who's stopping me from equipping 0GS conbo and going up against recruits? I am a Legend with at least couple months of experience (or whatever the average time for reaching legend now is) even though most Legend ranks look braindead to us with years of experience for recruits theyre unbeatable force even if their upgrades are the same.

I am at 9999gs Legend 112. I don't use OP conbos I use fun conbos like Stun Rico, Healing/AP Shaft etc. Even with those average conbos im by FAR the best player in the leaderboard even outperforming OP nonsense like flying monkeys, pulsar twins, hyperspeed thunder etc. 

Gear score MM is not a solution. Alternativa refuses to reverse updates so the only way MM can be fixed is by adding good playing bots. Or just reverse couple of obvious updates that make MM trash. But they don't do that. Why? Ask them. 

(I've tried to ask, but Nik keeps taking my questions down because it might make the devs cry. Or whatever.)

For matches involving tanks with Gear Scores 100 to 8000, MM based on GS is definitely the answer to this problem, though.

After Legend, I'm not sure what a good MM system is. You're probably more experienced in that area than me.

 

On 3/29/2023 at 12:09 PM, SvinafellTroll said:

Too easy to abuse. Just enter battles with mk1 equipment and change once you spawn in.

Possible solution: place matches based on the average GS of the last 1-4 battles. Easy workaround: sit through 2 battles with mk1 equipment and then use max equipment another 2 battles (and keep alternating). You will never have to play against max GS players anymore. Isn't that fun! 

Make the battle capped so that there is a maximum GS that can enter. If you change your tank mid-battle to something with a much higher GS, you get booted out.

Or make it so you can't change your tank at all. I mean, if you don't like the battle in your current tank, you can always leave and find another instead of changing your tank, so that's always an option.

 

For me, I always look at the enemy GS when I enter a battle and if there are a significant number of the enemy that are GS 2-3k+ higher than me, I leave.

I don't even look at their rank because rank doesn't matter in a battle.

 

***I just played an assault battle where most of my team was GS 2-4k and so was the enemy.

We were winning.

 

Then, an 8k Scorpion of similar--but higher--rank entered on the enemy side.

 

Which side do you think won the battle...?

Exactly. For this reason, 100-8000 has to be GS.

 

Edited March 29, 2023 by Jeers4U

[NikmanGT 4,362]

On 3/29/2023 at 9:51 PM, Jeers4U said:

I've tried to ask, but Nik keeps taking my questions down because it might make the devs cry. Or whatever

Nah buddy, ask questions which actually abide by the rules and which clearly have a potential to get answered by the Devs (This does not coincide by the fact that the Devs will surely answer them) and nobody will have the power to take your questions down. 

Asking stuff like "Devs are you trying to lose players", tell me, do you expect the authority to answer a negative question (not even a constructive criticism this is), and that too not personally but on a public platform?

Of course the answer is no, or the project would have been closed down like Tanki X a long time back.

[TargetXAcquired 277]

On 3/29/2023 at 2:07 PM, Warpriest said:

The case you mentioned is basically my exact situation. My only viable turret is Vulcan, period. Is that actually a problem though? Not quite.

Legend players with multiple augments, lots of supplies, maxed out drones, etc have a big advantage over the majority of lower ranked players simply because, "MOST" lower ranked players have very few options to go to when there best combo gets slaughtered in a nano second by a maxed out combo at endgame level.

If you choose to miss my point entirely then that's your problem. Your situation does not compare to a marshal going up against seasoned legend players.

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

On 3/29/2023 at 7:21 PM, Jeers4U said:

After Legend, I'm not sure what a good MM system is. You're probably more experienced in that area than me.

Seeing a rank below Legend is once in a lifetime match for me in MM.

Even though 99% of the time everyone is Legend the skill gap is very clear. But it's clearly a skill gap. Everyone is 9k GS+

Is it because im Legend 100+? Or something else? Idk but it's balanced! I mean you can't balance players skill. Why don't use that algorithm for another ranks and not just Legend 100+ and Boris The Grinder.

MM was actually balanced in brigadier+ ranks i think back in 2018-2021ish but early-game was unplayable.

There was also a time when early to mid game was balanced but end-game was just chaos. 

My personal MM is balanced. Except that 1 in 1000 battle that places me with warrant officers where the highest rank is like colonel for no reason. 

EDIT: Playing with low ranks is also very annoying. Yeah theyre free kills (i used firebird and literally TWO-SHOTTED low ranks) but teammate low ranks are very annoying. Even marshal+

Edited March 29, 2023 by Kimura

[TargetXAcquired 277]

My idea will work and the MM problem would be greatly reduced. 

G/S is not the answer.

Example;- Legend-maxed out, I wonder what combo this player is using?

Turret-maxed rico, augment, lets say helios.

Hull-hunter maxed out, augment, heat resistant (totally useless) 

Drone-brutus, totally useless. 

End result. You have a 9999 legend player who will be of no use whatsoever in battle because his maxed out combo is crap.

The amount of legend players alone that have a sub-standard garage is all down to them ranking way to quickly, which is why my idea would reduce future legend players entering battles with 7/8K G/S and much lower than that in quite a lot of battles.

This idea will work. It's up to the devs to make it happen asap and at least try and fix their shambolic MM which has been null and void since day 1. 

 

[ghost-guns 1,486]

No compensation even though we couldn't play...

[Jeers4U 665]

On 3/29/2023 at 12:42 PM, NikmanGT said:

Nah buddy, ask questions which clearly have a potential to get answered by the Devs

 

Sooo I have to be a mindreader to know which questions the developers feel like 'potentially' answering on any given day?

Dude, if I knew what the developers were thinking, I'd understand why they are driving this game into extinction--and I wouldn't need to ask the question in the first place.

 

***And let's be honest here. 'Are you trying to lose players?' is actually a VERY valid question based on the chronology of updates.

And the question isn't even close to being "obscene" either.

Edited March 30, 2023 by Jeers4U

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 3/30/2023 at 5:36 AM, Jeers4U said:

*And let's be honest here. 'Are you trying to lose players?' is actually a VERY valid question based on the chronology of updates.

And the question isn't even close to being "obscene" either.

You're missing the point. Asking that kind of question is rude, harsh, and often times disrespectful.

Its like when an airplane manufacturer makes a mistake on a part and then the boss comes in and asks:

"Are you trying to get people killed?"

Obviously to a lesser degree but still.

[Cleric 1,385]

On 3/30/2023 at 11:46 PM, PirateSpider said:

You're missing the point. Asking that kind of question is rude, harsh, and often times disrespectful.

Its like when an airplane manufacturer makes a mistake on a part and then the boss comes in and asks:

"Are you trying to get people killed?"

Obviously to a lesser degree but still.

Sounds like a pretty valid question to me.

Rude, harsh, and disrespectful? Of course. 80% of us have no respect for the Devs here anyway. Why should I when I'm getting constantly screwed over?

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 3/30/2023 at 9:01 AM, Warpriest said:

Sounds like a pretty valid question to me.

With that kind of question, what kind of answer would you expect from the devs?

 

On 3/30/2023 at 9:01 AM, Warpriest said:

Rude, harsh, and disrespectful? Of course. 80% of us have no respect for the Devs here anyway. Why should I when I'm getting constantly screwed over?

How are you getting "constantly screwed over"? The way I see it, you're the one screwing yourself over. You don't like how the game is, and yet you still play it. So why is that?

[Cleric 1,385]

On 3/31/2023 at 12:25 AM, PirateSpider said:

With that kind of question, what kind of answer would you expect from the devs?

 

How are you getting "constantly screwed over"? The way I see it, you're the one screwing yourself over. You don't like how the game is, and yet you still play it. So why is that?

This is my go-to game when I need a quick way to relax. It's brain-dead enough.

And unless you haven't noticed, I'm not complaining, I know that changes nothing not there is no point in doing so.

 

As for the Questions of the Dev topic, let's be honest, that place is basically the same as this topic now. A dumpster topic that people just rant.

Edited March 30, 2023 by Warpriest

[rebar619 93]

On 3/25/2023 at 5:24 PM, TheCongoSpider said:

If you're talking about the time at which you made this post, it is near the server restart, which is when player numbers are at their lowest during the day. 

Bro, it is like this every day. Matchmaking is complete and total trash. It is not even random. I find that I am on a team with much lower ranks and GS than the other team 80% of the time. What is infuriating is that when it is pointed out in the battle chat clowns on the other team with say that it is just fine while their team is dominating the match. I dont mind losing close matches. Close matches are what made the game fun. Those are like unicorns now. The developers have their heads so far up their backsides they don't see that the gameplay is chaotic garbage where a team on one side comprised of buyers just slaughters the other. No wonder people stop playing. I have found myself stop player nearly as much as I used to. If the new update does not change things then I am done. I have invested years playing this game, but it is so frustrating to play it is not even fun anymore. It is a shame and those responsible should be fired. Plain and simple.

[rebar619 93]

On 3/28/2023 at 1:15 AM, NikmanGT said:

Maybe you're right,

But firstly Ques to Dev is not for discussion, specifically for questions, there has been certain discussion going on in this topic, all has been removed, only questions stay intact. This message is for those who were trying to initiate a conversation in this topic, which is against the topic rules.

Now coming to your issue, direct obscene questions to the developers do not provide any positive input to the topic, neither they will be picked by Developers themselves in the first place, and lastly, nor they will be answered correctly or in the way you want the Developers to answer.

This comes for the basic thinking that an authority won't give a negative answer to negative feedback provided to them. Only constructive criticism is to be provided on the platform, and those of course we do not remove.

Good Day

The developers NEVER respond to the complaints that players are making. Especially the most aggravating questions regarding matchmaking. They should not be surprised when people start cussing them out. We are made as hell about the degradation of the game. 

 

On 3/29/2023 at 9:39 PM, SvinafellTroll said:

Too easy to abuse. Just enter battles with mk1 equipment and change once you spawn in.

Possible solution: place matches based on the average GS of the last 1-4 battles. Easy workaround: sit through 2 battles with mk1 equipment and then use max equipment another 2 battles (and keep alternating). You will never have to play against max GS players anymore. Isn't that fun! 

You are being willfully ignorant on this suggestion. The simple solution is that whatever GS you enter a battle with you need to maintain a +-500 pt equipping throughout the match. No sandbagging. If there is a turret that you want to use that puts you at a GS of 9500 and you started the match at 8750, then too bad. Chose a different gear configuration. ITS NOT THAT FREAKING HARD!  Forza Horizon as a similar requirement in races where only certain class cars can be used. Good grief people can be so dense.