Question to Developers

[Brandorrrr 119]

@Kimura

1. Is this not hacking? This is from last Tuesday (2023). Explain this please:

11. Kind of interesting how tanki is frequently having technical issues and more players than just I are experiencing similar issues.

15. It is attention to detail and noticing that a decent number of players are playing worse than any human player possibly can. They are not even trying to help the team. I would imaging that a normal player would try to play the game and at least attack enemy tanks or heal with isida. The intention of avoiding the objective of the game or assisting is sabotage. I am telling you to open your eyes in MM and look for them. 

 

Edited March 2, 2023 by Maf

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 3/1/2023 at 8:12 PM, Brandorrrr said:

Is this not hacking? This is from last Tuesday (2023). Explain this please:

That's just in parkour though. Most of the players don't really care about parkour.

[Maf 32,300]

On 3/2/2023 at 8:12 AM, Brandorrrr said:

a decent number of players are playing worse than any human player possibly can.

You know Stephen Hawking? You know how he was confined to a wheelchair and by the end of his life could only just about move one of his cheek muscles to control his screen in order to communicate? Think about how badly HE would be playing Tanki, and that gives you a good idea of how bad a human can possibly play.

Obviously, this example is extreme, but it would be a poor decision to set some kind of "skill limit", where if you don't perform better than a certain threshold, you get penalised. There's a multitude of reasons why someone could be playing poorly — actual disabilities, bad internet, low FPS, trying new equipment, holding a sandwich in one hand, etc.

None of these reasons justify removing such players from a non-competitive game environment such as Tanki MM. As long as there's a similar number of "noobs" and "pros" on each team, battles will be mostly balanced. Sure, it can often be frustrating, but in the end it's just a game. Just shrug and move on.

 

On 3/2/2023 at 5:56 AM, Jeers4U said:

If anyone on this list paid money to play, they would be 'scammed'.

Only if the EULA says that purchasing in this game guarantees that the player gets into balanced battles. Last time I checked, it doesn't mention anything of that sort.

[ELECTR0_DRAG0N 223]

@Maf, @Brandorrrr @PirateSpider

Hacking or not, Tanki still sucks for about 20 other reasons. Parkour should still not be home to hack as much as you want without getting banned. To be honest, I don't think the anti cheat system in the remainder of the game is good either. I see people using aimbots, wall hacks, and tank power enhancing hacks (insta kill, infinite health, extra weight, fast acceleration, etc.) all the time. I also have been seeing players use programs that harm the functioning of the game by produce lag to gain unfair advantages.

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

Spoiler

On 3/1/2023 at 9:16 PM, Jeers4U said:

 

1. Seeing as how they used to have a dedicated thread here for how many hackers they banned on a monthly basis, maybe you just aren't that good at recognizing hackers?

2. 'Unbalanced' matchmaking is completely rigged. You can tell by the name used to describe it: 'unbalanced'.

3. The scam is when you buy a turret with certain abilities and traits and then they nerf that turret three weeks later in the next update. The turret bought is not what you bought anymore. For some reason, you don't identify this as a scam. Let me put it another way. Let's say you bought a bmw. Then 3 weeks later, it turned into a lada. Sounds to me like a 'dishonest plan for making money' because now you have to buy another turret.

11. I experience lag all the time. Again, not sure why you don't. Maybe you live next door to tanki headquarters or maybe you just aren't the good at recognizing lag either.

15. This occurring is already common knowledge.

 

Again. Calling something ultra, doesn't make it ultra. Personally, I call it the 'slightly less lame' container.

Ultra: 'Going beyond what is usual or ordinary'.

A 1% increase chance of a legendary or exotic isn't going beyond what is ordinary. It's still ordinary.

 

 

 

 

1. Or maybe i got lucky like 99% of the players (from what it seems like) and just didn't encounter any hackers in the last couple of years. I play end-game matches so it makes sense.

2. Unbalanced =/= Rigged. I played a game that was actually rigged for you to lose and spend money and trust me its way worse than anything tanki's MM could come up with.

3. Bringing this into a discussion about the game instantly proves that youre bias. Or have no idea about how the game works. Or youre... well. Braindead.

Oh no my turret that i DIDN'T PAY A CENT got nerfed what a scam! It's like there's a balancing update every friday for YEARS that nerfs/buffs stuff... Hmm.... Everyone knows that they nerf/buff everything all the time. You pay for BMW knowing it might turn into Lada 5 weeks later or it could turn into a lightspeed spaceship. If you don't know what youre buying then don't buy it.

11. It's like... *cough* *cough* you need new PC.

 

On 3/2/2023 at 8:02 AM, PirateSpider said:

That's just in parkour though. Most of the players don't really care about parkour.

Parkour is also known as portal to alternative universe of Tanki Online. You'll find most random and weird sh*t possible in there. A hacker flying is the least of my concerns when im doing parkour. Also who cares if he's hacking? Its a parkour match. You get nothing, he gets nothing. Don't like hackers in useless parkour battles? Create your own private parkour. Simple. 

*That's ignoring the fact that tanki devs turned off anti-cheat in PARKOUR BATTLES ON PURPOSE. 

[TargetXAcquired 277]

Lets put this all into context so everyone can understand how TO works.

Q 1..... Is TO a P2W scam.

A.....Yes it is, in so much that they bring out new updates for turrets/augments, etc then when they have got their money's worth out of the buyers the rest of the players get to acquire it, were it inevitably gets nerfed "to the ground" and the cash grabbing cycle starts all over again. Everything in TO has been downgraded, especially supplies and containers.

Q 2.....Are containers rigged.

A.....I doubt it. But then again when cash is involved even if they were, players would have no idea either way.

Q 3.....Is MM rigged.

A.....Again I doubt it.

Q 4.....Are there still hackers in the game.

A.....Without doubt yes there is. 

Q 5.....Is MM fair.

A.....NOPE. MM has not worked the way the devs intended it to from day one.

Q 6.....Do updates and special events play havoc with TO.

A.....Yes. Every time they do a update/event TO goes sideways. Lag, restart, getting kicked from battles, etc, etc.

Q 7..... Do the devs no what they are doing regarding TO.

A......Very much so.

Q 8.....Do the devs listen to player feedback.

A.....Only if it coincides with what they already have planned and it doesn't cost them wads of cash. In other words.....NOPE.

Q 9.....Are most of the mods biased towards the devs and what they do.

A.....IMO, vey much so.

The last one is for you hazel.

Q 10.....To hazel. Start acting on player feedback and see a improvement in all areas of TO. That would be sensible player feedback, not children wanting shot effects back in the challenge.

A....Hazel's reply?

 

[Jeers4U 665]

On 3/2/2023 at 1:56 AM, Maf said:

You know Stephen Hawking? You know how he was confined to a wheelchair and by the end of his life could only just about move one of his cheek muscles to control his screen in order to communicate? Think about how badly HE would be playing Tanki, and that gives you a good idea of how bad a human can possibly play.

 

 

1. Stephen Hawking would hack. Not being able to do something well is one of the reasons why players hack in the first place.

 

On 3/2/2023 at 1:02 AM, PirateSpider said:

That's just in parkour though. Most of the players don't really care about parkour.

Yeah, you're right. Hackers only hack in parkour. They never go to any other area of tanki...

Edited March 2, 2023 by Jeers4U

[ShadowBreath 20]

Hello, can you PLEASE make the new magnum scope, that shows where the missile lands, optional, so you can choose if you want it or not. After the update Magnum has become unplayable for me. You can make the base settings so it's on, but please make it possible so you can turn it off

[Jeers4U 665]

On.

You.

[Drones 144]

Why did you guys get rid of the stun and burning damage effects from team juggernuat  mode? Because since that update came, it's really impossible to kill JGR now. 

[JumperTo 8]

Tanki cuz they maked paladins od no longer applies ap now paladin is trash and esports teams will break down cuz of this developera are to make game better not worse

[Akuma.XG 4]

Please add a button to cancel the mgn auxiliary ray in the game, maybe the auxiliary ray you added is very friendly to newcomers, but for some skilled players, the auxiliary line of the weapon will only block the field of view and hinder shooting, so please click  Add the option button of whether to enable the auxiliary line in the settings. Since joining the auxiliary line, many mgn players around me have not used him.  Please take this advice seriously!  !  !

[Brandorrrr 119]

Will you ever add a feature that allows players to build a map and play on it?

Edited March 5, 2023 by Brandorrrr

[Brandorrrr 119]

Do you plan to create an improved anti-cheat system specifically for parkour battles. I have been getting killed over and over again while trying to do parkour stunts thanks to these hackers teleporting all over the map insta-killing people.

[Bowser448 321]

Tanki needs to do something about the hacking in parkour. When the chat mods find out that my 6-month ban ended, they will make up another reason to ban me and being banned, I am unable to create a private battle and do parkour there.

[iplayatankonline 102]

So this maybe deserves its own thread, but its high time that if its not being discussed it ought to be.

 

Assault games ending with attackers winning. Culprit... I believe this is mostly possibly a change to hopper? With trickster? So maybe this combo or possibility of the combo has been around for a while, but now over time its reaching a tipping point where so many have gone after it that now many people have it.

 

For the last 2-3 weeks I've seen it consistently. Assault was one of my favourite modes to play, either attacking or defending. But now games can last 3 min or less before attackers simply win. On top of the team attacking needing 3-4 hoppers to win it, maybe my teams have been worse than average but still. It could be many things. 

 

 

From what I'm seeing, assault is now in the garbage. If you get luck of 50 50 draw and are on attacking team, Id say you have heck of a decent odd of winnings. 

 

Except for assault on the incompetent tankionline map where defenders always win. Defenders still have a chance there.

 

But every other map, it seems consistent for weeks that attackers win. Win fast. and by huge margin. Just finished a game that lasted 3 min and 12 sec. Score of 150 - 28. A typical game. The outliers exist. I also played a game a week ago where the game went 150-140 and we won.. attacking or defending I cant remember. But either way, is at least a sign that at times it can be balanced. But im assuming the attackers didnt have hoppers or something. Still 80% of games ending one sided for attackers seems a legit observation from my side. In game, in chat, ive voiced concerns and some have agreed that attackers are winning when I get input from others.

 

So? Forum... be the forum. 

[CALANCAT_ElleseRose 51]

Hey developers:

Can drones like sprinter and lifeguard and blaster and camper stay in tanki? . They have basic mechanics. The other six can leave the game. developers can put up a  tutorial video next to the respective drones in garage

Please respond developers or Hazel

Edited March 6, 2023 by CALANCAT_ElleseRose
needed to add a little more content

[Jeers4U 665]

On 3/4/2023 at 8:01 PM, Bowser448 said:

Tanki needs to do something about the hacking in parkour. When the chat mods find out that my 6-month ban ended, they will make up another reason to ban me and being banned, I am unable to create a private battle and do parkour there.

They are so clueless that I'm even being called an alternate account of yours...

eye-roll.

Literally nothing better to do with their time.

[Helios 722]

Will players with the drones that are  "soon to be removed" get any compensation ? Some of us have spent 1 million crystals are maxing out few drones. 

I suggest we get another max drone in place of removing lifeguard, camper etc.

[It_Aint_Too_Late 144]

Change the damn loading screen. It's absolutely disgusting. 

[Brown_Pelican 5]

Corrupted game all around

[DMR 676]

Can you, instead of removing those drones, make a tutoriel for each one of them, since you were planning to do a tutoriel of this game? Removing those drone will just ruin the concept of the diversity of strategy.

[Positive 1,136]

Will the game be available again in The Netherlands/Belgium any time soon?

[MrRodent 85]

Been saying this for months, but Control Point mode is so broken.

 

My team owns all the CP... our score goes 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 3, 1, 1, 1.

The other team manages to get within half a mile of a CP, and their score goes 123456789-win.

 

I've just been in a battle, where we owned all CP, and our score went to 75-0.

Then, out of nowhere, the other team's score went all the way to 60, and our score dropped to 60 as well.

Yet, they hadn't captured any of the CP.

And, without the other team still not capturing any of the CP, the score then went to 95-12, with them in the lead.

 

Anyone able to tell me how the scoring works in CP... aka; Corrupt Point.

Edited March 8, 2023 by MrRodent

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 3/8/2023 at 11:00 AM, MrRodent said:

Been saying this for months, but Control Point mode is so broken.

 

My team owns all the CP... our score goes 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 3, 1, 1, 1.

The other team manages to get within half a mile of a CP, and their score goes 123456789-win.

 

I've just been in a battle, where we owned all CP, and our score went to 75-0.

Then, out of nowhere, the other team's score went all the way to 60, and our score dropped to 60 as well.

Yet, they hadn't captured any of the CP.

And, without the other team still not capturing any of the CP, the score then went to 95-12, with them in the lead.

 

Anyone able to tell me how the scoring works in CP... aka; Corrupt Point.

Is it possible for you to record a video of this phenomenon?