Question to Developers

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 6/15/2023 at 6:15 PM, It_Aint_Too_Late said:

None really knows what's going on with those players. They are either bots, or lazy. I sometimes troll these dudes by circling around them. When they get annoyed, they finally turn their goddamn turret. Seems some of 'em aren't bots atleast.

I mean yeah there's some of that, but because of the exp boost, new players will have a harder time to build up the skills they need to compete in the high ranks.

[x_Sorinel_x 552]

On 6/16/2023 at 9:07 AM, PirateSpider said:

So you expect a 5k gs player go toe to toe with a 10k gs player? That's like a person using a dagger to stab a tank into destruction and hoping he wins.

No. Just leave. Join leave. Join leave. Join leave. Join leave. Leave if you see a stupid MM battle. Don't stay and camp like a stupid. If my team has 2 9999 GS players, enemy 4; instant "run". My team 1 9999 GS, enemy 3; instant "run". Not wasting time and druggs for a crap MM battle. I even "run" if both team have equal number of 9999 GS players (2vs2, 3vs3, 1vs1), if enemy is ahead. Like if enemy got 2 flags ahead in CTF, I "run". If half my team camps and half my team attacks, I stay. If only 2 attack and the rest camps like stupids, instant "run".

This is why I want the old tanki. Looser team ZERO crystals. If I have 5K GS and enemy team has 2 9999 GS, I should camp ? NO ! Instant "run". Not stay for nothing. Just join leave, join leave, join leave till I find a good MM battle.

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

On 6/16/2023 at 8:39 AM, x_Sorinel_x said:

No. They camp because they are to noob to play or to lazy to play.

Or because attacking in this game is as pointless and unfun as learning Cos, Sin (if its too advanced for smartest tanki players then i mean its math) I just tried Freeze Paladin DRIVER full hacking conbo literally getting oneshotted by everything the second i leave the base or my spawn prot runs out. Got whopping 400 points. Meanwhile camping or playing in the middle of the map i contantly get 800-1500 score a battle. Now tell me kind sir im i noob or lazy? 

EDIT: I also don't waste like 2 minutes every match just looking at the screen waiting for my tank to respawn.

Edited June 16, 2023 by Kimura

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 6/15/2023 at 11:48 PM, x_Sorinel_x said:

If I have 5K GS and enemy team has 2 9999 GS, I should camp ? NO ! Instant "run". Not stay for nothing. Just join leave, join leave, join leave till I find a good MM battle.

Well I hate to break it to you but, finding a good MM battle in this day and age is becoming 10x more rare than getting an exotic from an ultra container. And it'll continue to get rarer and rarer by the day. You can keep doing you.

But unless the devs decided to do something about MM, I've come to accept it for what it is, learn to adapt to it and take what I can get.

[x_Sorinel_x 552]

On 6/16/2023 at 9:55 AM, Kimura said:

Or because attacking in this game is as pointless and unfun as learning Cos, Sin (if its too advanced for smartest tanki players then i mean its math) I just tried Freeze Paladin DRIVER full hacking conbo literally getting oneshotted by everything the second i leave the base or my spawn prot runs out. Got whopping 400 points. Meanwhile camping or playing in the middle of the map i contantly get 800-1500 score a battle. Now tell me kind sir im i noob or lazy? 

EDIT: I also don't waste like 2 minutes every match just looking at the screen waiting for my tank to respawn.

This is why I said bring back old Tanki. Looser team ZERO crystals. Why play CTF if only camping ? Why play Siege if only camping ? Remove all and keep DM and TDM. Or, like I said earlier in this topic, put 500 Battle Points if you cap a flag, 500 if you score a point in Siege, 500 if you score a goal. So no more noob campers.

And it depends how much you play, if you play 10 hours daily just camping... Finished my daily mission and I'm out for today. Wasted about 10.000 Crystals (got about 6 millions so I can wasted 10k-20k-30k daily) to change the crap missions. Done all 3 in one CTF battle (be in win team, earn 300 crystals in CTF and do 75k damage). All the time, it gives me crap Assault or Rugby missions, or earn 3000 crystals, or use 3 overdrives. Finished one battle, but I joined about 5-6 (in each, played about 3 minutes) till found a good MM battle.

Got 400 points ? If no chance to get the flag, just "RUN". Easy ! Not wasting time and druggs for crap battle with crap team.

 

"Or because attacking in this game is as pointless and unfun"

Not. Camping is pointless and unfun !

[x_Sorinel_x 552]

On 6/16/2023 at 10:29 AM, PirateSpider said:

Well I hate to break it to you but, finding a good MM battle in this day and age is becoming 10x more rare than getting an exotic from an ultra container. And it'll continue to get rarer and rarer by the day. You can keep doing you.

But unless the devs decided to do something about MM, I've come to accept it for what it is, learn to adapt to it and take what I can get.

You can find. Just join leave, join leave, join leave. Today joined 5-6 battles till found a good one. Finished a CTF (win, do 75k damage and earn 300 crystals) and I'm out for today. Enemy team more 9999 GS players, leave. My team no clan players, enemy team got 3-4 players in clan (not same clan), leave. My team got 2-3 players with GS lower than 5K, leave. Enemy team ahead with 1 flag, 1 point, 1 ball, leave.

Rare MM battles ? Where ? From all Ultras (from missions, from Tanki Fund), no Exotic. Zero Skins from Ultras.

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 6/16/2023 at 1:07 AM, x_Sorinel_x said:

You can find. Just join leave, join leave, join leave. Today joined 5-6 battles till found a good one. Finished a CTF (win, do 75k damage and earn 300 crystals) and I'm out for today. Enemy team more 9999 GS players, leave. My team no clan players, enemy team got 3-4 players in clan (not same clan), leave. My team got 2-3 players with GS lower than 5K, leave. Enemy team ahead with 1 flag, 1 point, 1 ball, leave.

What works for you isn't gonna work for everyone. Some of us don't have that kind of luxury.

On 6/16/2023 at 12:55 AM, x_Sorinel_x said:

Looser team ZERO crystals.

And players on the losing team will leave more than ever.

[x_Sorinel_x 552]

On 6/16/2023 at 7:04 PM, PirateSpider said:

And players on the losing team will leave more than ever.

And ? At least they will not camp like stupids. They will leave when winning team ahead with 2-3 flags, and better players with high GS will come; and you might change the result of the battle. You lose, leave battle, join another. Same, 0-0 battle, you lose, leave. Next battle maybe you are lucky, and be in winning team. And I said ZERO crystals for looser team. If draw, both teams earn crystals. If my team got only 1 flag, stop camping and run to get our flag.

[Akame 4,578]

On 6/16/2023 at 5:35 PM, x_Sorinel_x said:

and better players with high GS will come

This unfortunately does not always go hand in hand. There are more than enough times where I and other players have seen higher GS 'reinforcements' join, to only be very useless and terrible.

 

On 6/16/2023 at 5:35 PM, x_Sorinel_x said:

And I said ZERO crystals for looser team.

This will never help the game, when missions exist to play in specific modes and people need to earn score, crystals or stars, leaving games is not feasible for most players.

Also Control points can have the game change up literally in the last second, it would be more than stupid for a losing team to get 0 crystals for a competitive switchup that is constantly tipping, happens a bit more often when games aren't full blowouts.

If the game reverted to a no crystal for losing team, then many people would leave the game, for more players to join a losing team to more than likely still lose due to overwhelming numbers advantage against a low player count team? Many players hate to join matches midway too, I personally prefer to only play games that have only had around up to 2 minutes of progression unless I am desperate to play a mode for a mission.

 

Also to note, as far as reinforcements come, grouped players are never reinforcements, only the solo queue players can be so, which if they join a game that had grouped players and one group ran, only then for a solo queue player to join alone whilst the rest of the team is coping, it would suck a lot.

[Jeers4U 665]

On 6/16/2023 at 1:39 AM, x_Sorinel_x said:

No. They camp because they are to noob to play or to lazy to play.

 

Why play CTF if only camping ? Why play Siege if only camping ?

 

Those are a couple of the reasons, but by far the main reason is because the system rewards campers far more than it does players who capture seige points or defeat the juggernaut. Therefore, it's flawed. It really is that simple.

Pirate is correct, tho.

If the reward was greater for actually participating in a mission, more players would participate.

If the reward was less for camping less players would camp.

 

If I were a camper, I would play assault and seige because there are always a large number of enemy tanks concentrated in one spot (base defense, seige point) to shoot at.

In fact if I were a camper, I would ONLY play those battles.

You get far more points for camping than capturing seige points.

 

On 6/16/2023 at 2:48 AM, x_Sorinel_x said:

Join leave. Join leave. Join leave. Join leave. Leave if you see a stupid MM battle.

 

I do this too. Sometimes I leave/join 5 battles before I find a 'fair enough' battle to play.

Unfortunately, sometimes tanki adds 2x/3x GS tanks to the enemy half way through a battle.

I leave when that happens too.

Nothing like losing a mission with 90 seconds left because tanki added two 3x GS to the other team.

 

On 6/16/2023 at 4:24 PM, Akame said:

There are more than enough times where I and other players have seen higher GS 'reinforcements' join, to only be very useless and terrible.

 

Control points can have the game change up literally in the last second

 

Both of these are rare occurrences, however. Not common.

And by far, not the norm.

 

On 6/16/2023 at 4:24 PM, Akame said:

 leaving games is not feasible for most players.

 

Not sure how you came to that conclusion. 

[Akame 4,578]

On 6/16/2023 at 10:20 PM, Jeers4U said:

 

 

Not sure how you came to that conclusion. 

You did not read clearly then.

Not all players have the liberty to P+ENTER all games as desired when deemed to be 'unplayable'.

People have a life to attend to, work, studies and family. Even though game time was reduced to 13 minutes, assuming a 2 minute queue and an average of let's say 2 games a day to attempt to complete 3 daily missions (and 3 weeklies every seven days), 30minutes a day isn't that easy for many, especially when this may increase to complete missions. Some may manage to get more time on the weekend, but along with the 'ddos' server issues that happens, I and many others will rather play the painstaking losing game and get off as soon as I can to reserve and manage our time well and move on with the day.

The main ones that hardly have this issue, are clearly ones that have plenty of time, be it working from home, on a holiday/break, lack of other interaction, lack of other games to play.

 

Special missions that include 'winning X games' already has the 'zero crystal effect' on the game, evident that a fair set of players do not like this mission at all.

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 6/16/2023 at 9:35 AM, x_Sorinel_x said:

You lose, leave battle, join another. Same, 0-0 battle, you lose, leave. Next battle maybe you are lucky, and be in winning team

I will repeat what I said earlier. Some of us don't have that kind of luxury.

On 6/16/2023 at 9:35 AM, x_Sorinel_x said:

And I said ZERO crystals for looser team.

If you really want that so bad then check out protanki, I hear its the old version of the game.

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

On 6/17/2023 at 1:58 AM, PirateSpider said:

If you really want that so bad then check out protanki, I hear its the old version of the game.

It doesn't have the 0 Crystal thing. But what'll do is remove the pink nostalgia glasses from the "Old tanki was the best game"  and make them realise that old tanki was actually P2W. There were no way in hell you could compete with buyers they basically had godmode.  compared to now where you get lucky on your conts or buy tanki fund and you have the same gear as buyers. Also it's filled with campers too. Not because the game is unbalanced or whatever but because you literally cannot win against a buyer when you leave the base so there is no point just equip your M0 railgun and play against M2 drugging titan twins hoping he won't reach the base

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 6/17/2023 at 12:25 AM, Kimura said:

It doesn't have the 0 Crystal thing. But what'll do is remove the pink nostalgia glasses from the "Old tanki was the best game"  and make them realise that old tanki was actually P2W. There were no way in hell you could compete with buyers they basically had godmode.  compared to now where you get lucky on your conts or buy tanki fund and you have the same gear as buyers. Also it's filled with campers too. Not because the game is unbalanced or whatever but because you literally cannot win against a buyer when you leave the base so there is no point just equip your M0 railgun and play against M2 drugging titan twins hoping he won't reach the base

Yeah, that's what I've been thinking. Oh well, at least it did shut him up for a little while.

[x_Sorinel_x 552]

On 6/17/2023 at 2:58 AM, PirateSpider said:

I will repeat what I said earlier. Some of us don't have that kind of luxury.

If you really want that so bad then check out protanki, I hear its the old version of the game.

Luxury ? What luxury ? Crystals ? If you play 10 hours daily don't have crystals ? And I will repeat what I said earlier. Bring back the old Tanki. Where loosers will get ZERO crystals. So no more stupid campers.

[x_Sorinel_x 552]

On 6/17/2023 at 10:25 AM, Kimura said:

Not because the game is unbalanced or whatever but because you literally cannot win against a buyer when you leave the base so there is no point just equip your M0 railgun and play against M2 drugging titan twins hoping he won't reach the base

So just leave the game. Leave till you find a good team. You can join a good team with 4-5 buyers against a noob team.

[x_Sorinel_x 552]

On 6/17/2023 at 2:18 AM, Akame said:

You did not read clearly then.

Not all players have the liberty to P+ENTER all games as desired when deemed to be 'unplayable'.

People have a life to attend to, work, studies and family. Even though game time was reduced to 13 minutes, assuming a 2 minute queue and an average of let's say 2 games a day to attempt to complete 3 daily missions (and 3 weeklies every seven days), 30minutes a day isn't that easy for many, especially when this may increase to complete missions. Some may manage to get more time on the weekend, but along with the 'ddos' server issues that happens, I and many others will rather play the painstaking losing game and get off as soon as I can to reserve and manage our time well and move on with the day.

The main ones that hardly have this issue, are clearly ones that have plenty of time, be it working from home, on a holiday/break, lack of other interaction, lack of other games to play.

 

Special missions that include 'winning X games' already has the 'zero crystal effect' on the game, evident that a fair set of players do not like this mission at all.

Don't have time ? Well, you are Legend 107, 25 million crystals earned. With that drone remove, I got 6 millions crystals. If you don't have time, waste 10k-20k-30k daily to change missions. I do that all the time. To get easy ones (earn crystals, do 75k damage, use 5-10-15 druggs, be in 1 win team). If you joined, and you got use 10 overdrives, finish 5 battles, do 300k damage, you don't change the misisons ? Don't waste crystals ? No wonder people play 3-4 hours daily to finish them. Want to finish in about 20 minutes ? Waste crystals and change the daily missions.

Edit: To bad they don't put change weekly missions. I can waste 50k-100k crystals to change one (that crap finish 20 battles).

Edited June 17, 2023 by x_Sorinel_x

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

On 6/17/2023 at 6:53 PM, x_Sorinel_x said:

So just leave the game. Leave till you find a good team. You can join a good team with 4-5 buyers against a noob team.

If I leav..... I have no comments. Adult life and game economy doesn't allow you to run from battle the second another person who paid joins. Same in Tanki online.

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 6/17/2023 at 5:53 PM, x_Sorinel_x said:

Luxury ? What luxury ?

Some players don't have the greatest internet connections. There are situations where they do find a good battle, but it gives them constant lag spikes to the point where the battle is unplayable for them. There are situations where MM keeps them in the loading screen until the battle is over. There are situations where they do enter a good battle but they get kicked out and can't re-enter. And lets not forget to mention the latest DDOS attacks that are destroying whatever stability tanki's servers have left.

Then there are those who don't have alot of time to screw around with the constant join-leave Baloney Sandwich. For example, I barely play into an hour the only time is when the event battle is just longer than usual, or if there's a certain mission that I want to just get out of the way.

[MrRodent 85]

I have a question...

Can we have Esplanada map back in the main game? I just played on it in the event, and realised how much we all miss it.

[Jeers4U 665]

Just played a game where there were only 7 actual tanks (out of the 12 listed) in the arena playing.

Tanki, if you're going to make fake tanks to fill a battle, at least make it LOOK like you aren't trying to skrew the real players over.

eyeroll

[x_Sorinel_x 552]

On 6/17/2023 at 7:47 PM, PirateSpider said:

Some players don't have the greatest internet connections. There are situations where they do find a good battle, but it gives them constant lag spikes to the point where the battle is unplayable for them. There are situations where MM keeps them in the loading screen until the battle is over. There are situations where they do enter a good battle but they get kicked out and can't re-enter. And lets not forget to mention the latest DDOS attacks that are destroying whatever stability tanki's servers have left.

Then there are those who don't have alot of time to screw around with the constant join-leave Baloney Sandwich. For example, I barely play into an hour the only time is when the event battle is just longer than usual, or if there's a certain mission that I want to just get out of the way.

No good internet connections ? Well, don't play. If I have crap net connection, I don't play. I go for offline games. And don't have time with the join-leave ? You got a win mission (and you don't want to waste crystals). You joined and finished 3 battles in a row (all in looser team). At the 4 battle, you won. About one hour wasted. But, if you just join-leave, join-leave, join-leave till you find a good buyer team, you can finish it in one battle (about 20-25 minutes wasted).

Like I said, ZERO crystals to looser team. Or, put 500 Battle Points for a goal scored, 500 for a point in Siege, 500 for a flag in CTF. So no more crap campers. If I score 5 points in Siege, I can get 2500 Battle Points (+ tanks destroyed). A camper can get 1000 from tanks.

[x_Sorinel_x 552]

On 6/17/2023 at 7:44 PM, Kimura said:

If I leav..... I have no comments. Adult life and game economy doesn't allow you to run from battle the second another person who paid joins. Same in Tanki online.

You play to win. Game economy ? You got 21 millions crystals earned and Legend 123. And with that Drone remove, we got plenty of crystals. So, full of crystals. But, if there are noob players that waste crystals on crap events... Like the Loss of Control (if I'm right). That event where you waste 30k or 40k crystals to change your team (if in looser team, waste crystals and crystals and crystals till you are lucky and moved in winner team). And you buy Tubes with crystals from Shop (100k one stupid tube). Don't complain about game economy if you join crap events where you waste 400k-500k crystals for nothing.

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 6/18/2023 at 10:34 PM, x_Sorinel_x said:

No good internet connections ? Well, don't play.

So your only response to this is to just not play? Do you even realize why some of us still even play? Plus telling other players to leave because of this will benefit no one if the player in question still wants to play.

On 6/18/2023 at 10:34 PM, x_Sorinel_x said:

You joined and finished 3 battles in a row (all in looser team). At the 4 battle, you won. About one hour wasted. But, if you just join-leave, join-leave, join-leave till you find a good buyer team, you can finish it in one battle (about 20-25 minutes wasted).

Actually it would be the other way around. If you kept nitpicking for a good battle it'll take you at least an hour to complete the missions. If you just sucked it up and adapted, it'd take you only half that.

I don't know about you, but I've actually tried both ways. I've tried the nitpicking way during most of my years on tanki, and it'd take me usually an hour to complete my missions, and sometimes up to 3 hours if I was particularly unlucky that night.

I've been going with the adapting way, and I could easily get my missions in no more than 3 battles, usually in 2. And 1 if I'm particularly lucky.

On 6/18/2023 at 10:34 PM, x_Sorinel_x said:

Like I said, ZERO crystals to looser team

Then go play protanki 

Edited June 19, 2023 by PirateSpider

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

On 6/19/2023 at 9:01 AM, x_Sorinel_x said:

You play to win. Game economy ? You got 21 millions crystals earned and Legend 123. And with that Drone remove, we got plenty of crystals. So, full of crystals. But, if there are noob players that waste crystals on crap events... Like the Loss of Control (if I'm right). That event where you waste 30k or 40k crystals to change your team (if in looser team, waste crystals and crystals and crystals till you are lucky and moved in winner team). And you buy Tubes with crystals from Shop (100k one stupid tube). Don't complain about game economy if you join crap events where you waste 400k-500k crystals for nothing.

??? How many people are on my or even close to my level of Legend 123 and 21 million cry earned?? Im in the TOP 1%. I can assure you that 99% of the playerbase doesn't have infinite money to spend on crystals or just infinite crystals because they have everything maxed. There are many players who don't want to spend 10k cry every day to change their dailies. Hell even i waste like 2k a week on average for changing dailies. Some people just want to enjoy the game and if it includes them camping on a losing team then who cares? It's not their fault MM is broken or they like chill gameplay. "We got plenty of crystals from Drone Removal update" is beyond stupid point. first you need to have a lot of maxed drones to even get something useful in terms of crystals and that is not easy for your average Joe. second most of the players wasted their drone crystals on another garage items long time ago. we had like 3 sales since then. Do you understand that not everyone is stacked player with mountain of crystals.