v-log Tanki Online V-LOG: Episode 374

[It_Aint_Too_Late 144]

On 3/6/2023 at 1:16 AM, Synthwave said:

Just met Hazel @Opex-Rahin MM. He was testing some weird hammer augment. Looks like you can't say anything towards him or you will get instant 1 week chat ban like me.......totally stupid

Seems they are as arrogant as we've always expected them to be. Hmm.. this answers the question to a lot of things.

Edited March 10, 2023 by It_Aint_Too_Late

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

On 3/5/2023 at 8:46 PM, Synthwave said:

Just met Hazel @Opex-Rahin MM. He was testing some weird hammer augment. Looks like you can't say anything towards him or you will get instant 1 week chat ban like me.......totally stupid

Just a coincidence you got banned in that time. I met Big Daddy Hazel and we talked about balance for 15 minutes straight (i almost convinced him Crisis with 2 modes at once and Fire effect Freeze was a good idea) Also told him how "flying monkeys are way too OP" and no ban but it was very fun to have a talk with him about various topics. Don't blame Hazel for who see anything above 2 year old language as insults.

Edited March 7, 2023 by Madara
removed provocation.

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

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Just met Hazel @Opex-Rahin MM. He was testing some weird hammer augment. Looks like you can't say anything towards him or you will get instant 1 week chat ban like me.......totally stupid

I need to comment on this injustice.

Many players can testify that I never ban on the spot even if there is profanity going my way, even when players wish me death. Also, many players can testify that when I am in the mood, I can tell a lot of interesting stuff. All it takes is to be respectful in the chat.

What happened was either an interesting coincidence or this particular player had recently (previous battle for example) crossed the line in the chat. One doesn't get 168 hours for nothing.

As other players said, this is ideal when new equipment is tested in battle conditions whenever possible. Having arranged 'special' games with 'special' invited players results in 'special' augment settings nobody likes. I know, I did that.

Please be respectful in the chat so that when the chance comes you can argue with the dev on the spot.

[Maf 32,300]

On 3/7/2023 at 12:02 AM, Opex-Rah said:

What happened was either an interesting coincidence or this particular player had recently (previous battle for example) crossed the line in the chat. One doesn't get 168 hours for nothing.

I noticed this happening a lot more recently after the chat reports system was changed. Now people say something in chat, get banned for it 20 minutes later, but think that they instead got banned for whatever minor/innocent thing they said just before the ban was issued. Might be useful to add a note explaining that the ban is issued based on a report, like "You are disconnected from the chat. [...] Reason: Insults/Provocation. Report based on your message from 23 minutes ago"

[HardKnockLife 56]

On 3/6/2023 at 6:30 PM, It_Aint_Too_Late said:

Seems they are as arrogant as we've always expect them to be. Hmm.. this answers the question to a lot of things.

I don't know this specific case but I can confirm that some players insult Opex for no reason. I witnessed it.

[CALANCAT_ElleseRose 51]

Developers should think a month about removing a major part of the game. Drones are in so many varieties cause each has its own way of helping the player. In lower ranks we needed drones like lifeguard and camper. Only very few think that the game is complex. Only 3 to 7 % are kids and dont know how to play the game. And are chatting here that they don't understand it. 

In my opinion tanki should give it more time to think about removing drones. Please agree with me other forum members. Give a  

[CALANCAT_ElleseRose 51]

On 3/7/2023 at 1:32 AM, Opex-Rah said:

I need to comment on this injustice.

Many players can testify that I never ban on the spot even if there is profanity going my way, even when players wish me death. Also, many players can testify that when I am in the mood, I can tell a lot of interesting stuff. All it takes is to be respectful in the chat.

What happened was either an interesting coincidence or this particular player had recently (previous battle for example) crossed the line in the chat. One doesn't get 168 hours for nothing.

As other players said, this is ideal when new equipment is tested in battle conditions whenever possible. Having arranged 'special' games with 'special' invited players results in 'special' augment settings nobody likes. I know, I did that.

Please be respectful in the chat so that when the chance comes you can argue with the dev on the spot.

I see it @Opex-Rah@Opex-Rah what does that hammer augment does. It was his fault that he crossed the line but i think you should have tested it in test servers. While testing here, players may argue with you dev friend. Try to avoid these clashes.

Please reply on how the hammer aug works. 

On 3/7/2023 at 1:32 AM, Opex-Rah said:

#RESPONDHAZEL

 

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 3/6/2023 at 8:12 PM, CALANCAT_ElleseRose said:

see it @Opex-Rah@Opex-Rah what does that hammer augment does. It was his fault that he crossed the line but i think you should have tested it in test servers. While testing here, players may argue with you dev friend. Try to avoid these clashes.

Actually the best way to really test new mechanics is on live servers. They can get the most accurate results that way. 

Besides, he's the lead dev, he can basically do what he wants.

If you wanted to give him your input, I don't think he would mind. Just be civil about it is all.

[cybernite 93]

With this Drone rebalance coming when? This friday next vlog?

They should do this:

Combine some of these axed drones with the ones left...

For example

1> Miner and Blaster features added to Saboteur

2> Driver added to Hyperion

3> Sprinter added to Trickster

not sure about for booster, defender, and crisis what else could be added....from the recently axed drones...hmmm

Rebalance Drones eh? Well also

Battery reduced cost like 150 crystals not 300

For every drone only 1 supply not 3.

This would rebalance cause then more players could use hyperion/crisis or the other drones without as much worry about supplies and EMP/JAMMER.

 

Important thing is to make the game fun and simple to use; not a drag.

 

Edited March 7, 2023 by cybernite

[0179432 146]

As long as we're fully compensated with refunded crystals for the drones we lose, including upgrade level, I'm fine with this......

 

[HardKnockLife 56]

On 3/7/2023 at 7:41 PM, 0179432 said:

As long as we're fully compensated with refunded crystals for the drones we lose, including upgrade level, I'm fine with this......

 

I would also add interest on capital

[Me0w_XP 523]

On 3/7/2023 at 12:56 AM, cybernite said:

With this Drone rebalance coming when? This friday next vlog?

They should do this:

Combine some of these axed drones with the ones left...

For example

1> Miner and Blaster features added to Saboteur

2> Driver added to Hyperion

3> Sprinter added to Trickster

not sure about for booster, defender, and crisis what else could be added....from the recently axed drones...hmmm

Rebalance Drones eh? Well also

Battery reduced cost like 150 crystals not 300

For every drone only 1 supply not 3.

This would rebalance cause then more players could use hyperion/crisis or the other drones without as much worry about supplies and EMP/JAMMER.

 

Important thing is to make the game fun and simple to use; not a drag.

 

I like this idea but a Sprinter Trickster would be so OP. xD

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 3/6/2023 at 9:56 PM, cybernite said:

Combine some of these axed drones with the ones left...

For example

1> Miner and Blaster features added to Saboteur

2> Driver added to Hyperion

3> Sprinter added to Trickster

not sure about for booster, defender, and crisis what else could be added....from the recently axed drones...hmmm

Lifeguard and supplier into mechanic. 

Assault to booster.

Trooper to defender.

Camper abilities into booster and defender.

Engineer abilities into booster, defender, and trickster.

Driver and blaster might be better off as hull augments.

[RU369 15]

On 3/5/2023 at 3:18 PM, CALANCAT_ElleseRose said:

Are you kidding!!! I mean it is good to remove overcomplicated drones but camper, lifeguard, blaster, sprinter are easy to use drones. Why they are being removed 

I've used camper and it won't help much. Its not about "easy to use" , in the long run if you want to improve your skills and grow then Brutus is the way to go with.   Though you may not realize this in instant future but with time you will harden enough to realize this.  Challenge is to go that far and not get bogged down with results of present and near future. 


 

Edited March 8, 2023 by RU369

[Jeers4U 665]

On 3/5/2023 at 4:42 PM, TheCongoSpider said:

Ideally it should be tested in a random MM battle at least once. That's where it's going to be used if it eventually comes out, after all. 

No.

Not where people pay money.

It should be tested and released when it's ready after a beta testing phase.

Not tested on the public.

 

Imagine if pharmaceutical companies tested their drugs randomly at pharmacies without the public knowing? (Oops! Sorry. Didn't know that formula was poisonous. But I guess it doesn't matter because I develop drugs and I can do what I want...)

What if automobile companies did that? (Oops, sorry those brakes didn't work and people died. But we needed to test it on real roads before we released it...)

 

Edited March 8, 2023 by Jeers4U

[RU369 15]

On 3/5/2023 at 3:16 PM, paul16135 said:

They're not redundant if you use them, goon.

 L   O   L    .  .  .

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 3/7/2023 at 6:43 PM, Jeers4U said:

Imagine if pharmaceutical companies tested their drugs randomly at pharmacies without the public knowing? (Oops! Sorry. Didn't know that formula was poisonous. But I guess it doesn't matter because I develop drugs and I can do what I want...)

What if automobile companies did that? (Oops, sorry those brakes didn't work and people died. But we needed to test it on real roads before we released it...)

Imagine comparing in-game things to real world situations.

The difference between the two is that the mentioned companies would face a massive lawsuit as they should if they pulled such stunts.

The devs own this game, and since its their game, they can do whatever they want with it. And whatever they do, no real harm will ever come from it.

[TargetXAcquired 277]

On 3/6/2023 at 8:02 PM, Opex-Rah said:

Please be respectful in the chat so that when the chance comes you can argue with the dev on the spot.

I'd need way more than 15 mins. 

Are you (chiefest of devs) ever going to act on genuine, reasonable player feedback that enhances the gaming experience for the majority of players.

This includes any and all updates which should have prior consent from the players via a vote/poll system. By this I mean game changing updates that affect players in a adverse way. Example:- The introduction of "floating tanks" that have the ability to camp on top of buildings.....really.

Things to get rid of/change in the game.

1-Useless notifications that obscure your line of sight in battle and your peripheral vision also.

2-Night time mode. JUST PANTS.

3-Ranking system and the mechanics behind it. More XP needed to rank by a factor of at least x2, x3 would be preferential.

4-MM.......The main problem with this is the obvious differences not just in rank/GS/ but in the strength of your garage as a whole. The reasons behind so many weak players is attributed mainly by the problem not being addressed in Q3.

5-All of the above and way more. 

Edited March 8, 2023 by TargetXAcquired

[TargetXAcquired 277]

On 3/8/2023 at 2:43 AM, Jeers4U said:

No.

Not where people pay money.

It should be tested and released when it's ready after a beta testing phase.

Not tested on the public.

 

Imagine if pharmaceutical companies tested their drugs randomly at pharmacies without the public knowing? (Oops! Sorry. Didn't know that formula was poisonous. But I guess it doesn't matter because I develop drugs and I can do what I want...)

What if automobile companies did that? (Oops, sorry those brakes didn't work and people died. But we needed to test it on real roads before we released it...)

TO is a game not life and death, your post is null and void.

@TheCongoSpider is correct. 

Testing anything out to do with new augments, hulls, turrets, etc in genuine MM battles is the only way to see how it affects game play against the numerous other combos used by other players, all with their own unique way of playing the game. 

Some advice if I may. Think before you type.

For the devs. Think before update.

[Me0w_XP 523]

On 3/7/2023 at 9:43 PM, Jeers4U said:

Imagine if pharmaceutical companies tested their drugs randomly at pharmacies without the public knowing? (Oops! Sorry. Didn't know that formula was poisonous. But I guess it doesn't matter because I develop drugs and I can do what I want...)

What if automobile companies did that? (Oops, sorry those brakes didn't work and people died. But we needed to test it on real roads before we released it...)

These are wildly unrelated analogies. Drugs and automobiles are items that should have an objective result when you use them. Game equipment in terms of balance in battles really depends on interactions with other equipment.

Opex would get unrealistic results if he tried to balance equipment solely in private testing battles. Something might look good on paper or with a small test group, but be completely different in a real battle because there are so many factors to a Tanki battle. Thus, it's important for Opex to actually test something in a real scenario at least once instead of solely relying on data from a controlled and unrealistic environment.

[CALANCAT_ElleseRose 51]

On 3/8/2023 at 8:10 AM, RU369 said:

I've used camper and it won't help much. Its not about "easy to use" , in the long run if you want to improve your skills and grow then Brutus is the way to go with.   Though you may not realize this in instant future but with time you will harden enough to realize this.  Challenge is to go that far and not get bogged down with results of present and near future. 


 

bro camper is invincible for campers like me.i did like 54 kills with camper railgun(hyperspeed augment).i already maxed brutus and crisis.they are as special as you say but , camper is for players of my style. campers are useful in deathmatches. other drones for other work

[Bydo 20,118]

On 3/8/2023 at 7:56 AM, Me0w_XP said:

These are wildly unrelated analogies. Drugs and automobiles are items that should have an objective result when you use them. Game equipment in terms of balance in battles really depends on interactions with other equipment.

Opex would get unrealistic results if he tried to balance equipment solely in private testing battles. Something might look good on paper or with a small test group, but be completely different in a real battle because there are so many factors to a Tanki battle. Thus, it's important for Opex to actually test something in a real scenario at least once instead of solely relying on data from a controlled and unrealistic environment.

Sir  , Opex should have done this in a test server  //  he also could have created a battle in pro with a label testing battle to get results. if this was done in a Match Making battles how is this fair to others . in my books it would be sabotage on the other team .

for the comments said this could have been a misunderstanding with language issues from Russian to  English comments

- could be that a player was trying to say one thing but when typed out it came across completely different

 

Edited March 8, 2023 by Bydo

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 3/8/2023 at 6:09 AM, Bydo said:

Sir  , Opex should have done this in a test server  //  he also could have created a battle in pro with a label testing battle to get results. if this was done in a Match Making battles how is this fair to others . in my books it would be sabotage on the other team .

Its just one battle. Also like we've been discussing, testing mechanics in live servers is the best way to see how well they truly perform. And the lead dev seems to have realize this as well.

[RU369 15]

On 3/8/2023 at 7:13 PM, CALANCAT_ElleseRose said:

bro camper is invincible for campers like me.i did like 54 kills with camper railgun(hyperspeed augment).i already maxed brutus and crisis.they are as special as you say but , camper is for players of my style. campers are useful in deathmatches. other drones for other work

:)    very early to say this,  just play for long enough and you will understand the importance of why developers decided to get it removed.  As you rise up the ranks , it will become more difficult to keep up with full HP and you won't get enough time to stay in one portion of the map and there will be no "safe area" as experienced players will know in which locations they can expect you camping. 

Edited March 8, 2023 by RU369

[arek2016ee 0]

On 3/8/2023 at 5:25 PM, RU369 said:

:)    very early to say this,  just play for long enough and you will understand the importance of why developers decided to get it removed.  As you rise up the ranks , it will become more difficult to keep up with full HP and you won't get enough time to stay in one portion of the map and there will be no "safe area" as experienced players will know in which locations they can expect you camping. 

Unless you're pro magnum player.