event Tanki Birthday: TankiFund

[Dopamine 2,161]

On 5/20/2023 at 11:38 AM, CortoMaltese said:

... and to throw in a year's earnings for a 1 in 6 chance (roughly) to receive those 8000 and a 5 in 6  chance of losing it all?  I don't know. I'm not much of a risk-taker I think...

I think it depends whether you value the guaranteed prizes enough to warrant the 1k tks spending. If yes, then it is worth it.

[DefkwargX 152]

On 5/18/2023 at 11:37 PM, Espoir said:

What we need is new exclusive skins such as the new viking/freeze XT or something else because rn it's terrible

New viking XT is trash compared to the old one, I mean, look at it 

[The_Resistance 135]

On 5/20/2023 at 2:18 PM, Assasin-TO said:

New viking XT is trash compared to the old one, I mean, look at it 

IMO its opposite)) 

[Deceptive-Hope_EN.PL 162]

For real?! 5 new Pulsar Augments?! Are you out of mind?!?!?1 You, developers, said that you want to "simplify" the game, when actually you do the complete opposite, you're making it more and more difficult. And instead of STOPPING create more augments you remove some drones and give 60% compensation to players or increasing the rank avalible to get protection modules. That's how you "simplify" it? Oh wait, I forgot that in some kind of their newspeech "simplifying" is "making it more and more difficult"...

Those augments make this game more difficult, not drones or protection modules. AUGMENTS!!!!! Oh, right, it's for money, not for players... I often forget about it....

And such prizes for only 990 Tankoins when you can't even purchase 5 Ultra Containers for that amount of Tankoins?! Gosh, you're ruining the game more and more.

Some skins repeat, why there are no compensations if somebody get them before?

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

On 5/20/2023 at 7:28 PM, Deceptive-Hope_EN.PL said:

For real?! 5 new Pulsar Augments?! Are you out of mind?!?!?1 You, developers, said that you want to "simplify" the game, when actually you do the complete opposite, you're making it more and more difficult. And instead of STOPPING create more augments you remove some drones and give 60% compensation to players or increasing the rank avalible to get protection modules. That's how you "simplify" it? Oh wait, I forgot that in some kind of their newspeech "simplifying" is "making it more and more difficult"...

Those augments make this game more difficult, not drones or protection modules. AUGMENTS!!!!! Oh, right, it's for money, not for players... I often forget about it....

And such prizes for only 990 Tankoins when you can't even purchase 5 Ultra Containers for that amount of Tankoins?! Gosh, you're ruining the game more and more.

Some skins repeat, why there are no compensations if somebody get them before?

I can see the vision with Augments that are not just "money, money, money" it's the "Design your own tank" part of the game. Customization is always good. Though i would like it if augments were as "OP" as OG Garage augments aka ACTUALLY BALANCED and not either OP as hell or unusable with no in between.

[Romantically 282]

On 5/19/2023 at 2:19 PM, superman12365 said:

 Isnt tanki fund for birthday date supposing to please ALL players? So if one day my friend invite me in his birthday, wouldn't it be awkward if i give him a gift he already own?

 

Try pleasing thousands of people, It's near impossible because someone will always be unhappy

[galziv01 153]

This tankifund is great for F2P players. All the time we complain that the game is P2W and now for 1000 tankoins you get a module slot, 30 UC, 30 containers, some skins and pulsar augments as well as armadilo module and crisis drone.  It is different from other tankifunds because by completing the survey you get 300 tankoins so actually the tankifund costs 700 tankoins which is about 5 months of completing challenges. I write 5 months because in February it was almost impossible to finish the challenge since we had only 14 days of daily missions on each challenge.

 

 

[superman12365 9]

On 5/20/2023 at 8:34 PM, Provence said:

Try pleasing thousands of people, It's near impossible because someone will always be unhappy

Yeah, but the first part to make the maximum people happy is to give non-recycled item just for the birthday fund, in those funds, some would like one augment, some other people would like another one etc. Im sure they are capable of doing it since in previous fund, items were mostly exclusive. This one, they were just lazy. Only the art department is doing great things in this game

but giving recycled items for almost all tiers is the only way to make sure some people would receive nothing from these blank spaces, not to forget that special edition skin who appear again lol

It will mostly profit for casual player or players who has different accounts. 

Especially that the lead dev said "i reserved you a big surprise for the next fund" some vlogs ago, so i was expecting more from this one fund. he basically hyped just for the shake of it.

That's the way i see the thing, i hope you see what i meant.

Edited May 20, 2023 by superman12365

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 5/20/2023 at 4:41 PM, superman12365 said:

Especially that the lead dev said "i reserved you a big surprise for the next fund" some vlogs ago, 

What Vlog number did he say this?

[Cleric 1,385]

On 5/20/2023 at 5:30 PM, CaptainKiller said:

Wow... Buyer Moments... I see why this fund was made...

Average of 8000 Tank coins per Player being thrown in the fund (and with Weekly containers, you can only earn 1248 Tankcoins a Year; Given that you complete Weekly Missions All Year Round)

 

 

On 5/20/2023 at 5:38 PM, CortoMaltese said:

... and to throw in a year's earnings for a 1 in 6 chance (roughly) to receive those 8000 and a 5 in 6  chance of losing it all?  I don't know. I'm not much of a risk-taker I think...

It's never about the tank coins. It's about the "additional bonuses". Paying 990 tank coins to be able to get 4 pulsar augments? (May be 5 a few days later) That's a steal for most people.

[superman12365 9]

On 5/21/2023 at 12:41 AM, TheCongoSpider said:

What Vlog number did he say this?

[Episode 381, time code 4:10.]

By memory, i remebered that he said something like "we reserved you a surprise on next birthday tanki fund. Stay tuned guys" That's a 1 month old memory from a vlog watched only once so the reality is altered but it goes to the same way and the same point.

A player asks him, "will there be changes to challenges? new ones are boring AND repeated"? The player here ask the developers to bring new things (it can be new containers, new augments, new anything)

What the developer answer to him is "no, there wont be any changes for challenges rn, challenges are meant to earn crystals, containers and supplies, skins and augments are bonuses" then he talks about something new coming on tanki birthday, they shown a blured picture of a tanki fund which implicitly mean: they are trying something new on birthday tanki fund.

Bringing something new always bring hype, especially from a game who recycle its items everytimes.

What i see now is the same thing as challenges, supplies, repeated skins, containers, repeated augments etc. 

Sure in the fund there is non-repeated items such as dictator/rail GT but in challenges too, sometimes there are non repeated skins such as hunter legacy, twins legacy  those skins are created and implemented for the first times in challenges, so what's the difference? HD skin is the difference? What i would answer is that i saw gauss ultra and striker ultra in challenges too. Augment is the difference? I saw jamming hammer created especially for a challenges etc There are plenty of examples. So in the end of the day, creating a skin which will first be released in a tanki fund isn't new, they did it in challenges and previous tanki fund. What i was expecting is a new drone or a new surprise, something that would have amazed me, like "wow i didnt think about that" and what i see is just no new concept (compared to challenges), nothing new. 2 new skins even if they were just created for this isnt big enough to say that. And this without talking about the rail GT which is a non effort skin, so in fact they just gave dictator HD with 3 new augments, less than before. 

Concretly, what is new compared to challenges? Even worse, what is new compared to previous funds which had actually new augments and new skins?

Therefore he hyped the thing for nothing in final. No new concept, and repeated skins and augments (what the guy initially asked him about and he answered they would try something new lol)

So he was totally lying or they might have changed their plans. Maybe you guys didn't pay attention when he said that but i was kind of happy that tanki renew itself, to end up seeing it was just a lie, even worse, seeing freeze SE appear, double lie.

I hope when you read this you won't reply subjectively just like others, like we should be happy about what they give to us, they help newcomers by recycling rewards. But i expect a more objectively reply, like they said something new would come = nothing new came compared to previous challenges or previous fund= they fooled us. That's a fact and i'm talking with all proof i could have given.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 5/20/2023 at 7:55 PM, superman12365 said:

[Episode 381, time code 4:10.]

By memory, i remebered that he said something like "we reserved you a surprise on next birthday tanki fund. Stay tuned guys" 

Nothing about a Tanki Fund was said in that video anywhere. 

 

On 5/20/2023 at 7:55 PM, superman12365 said:

A player asks him, "will there be changes to challenges? new ones are boring AND repeated"? The player here ask the developers to bring new things (it can be new containers, new augments, new anything)

What the developer answer to him is "no, there wont be any changes for challenges rn, challenges are meant to earn crystals, containers and supplies, skins and augments are bonuses" then he talks about something new coming on tanki birthday, they shown a blured picture of a tanki fund which implicitly mean: they are trying something new on birthday tanki fund.

That picture is not a Tanki Fund. If anything, that looks like the new interface for the Challenges section which was shown in one of the recent Test Servers (weeks ago). 

 

Edited May 21, 2023 by TheCongoSpider

[Bamba 188]

I am wondering if this fund is worth buying since these pulsars will be nerfed for sure. What you guys say?

(I'll also get a few missing skins from there)

Edited May 21, 2023 by tanshin

[Romantically 282]

On 5/20/2023 at 10:41 PM, superman12365 said:

Yeah, but the first part to make the maximum people happy is to give non-recycled item just for the birthday fund, 

 

Last time there was skin containers, which give what? LGC, XT etc. "recycled" skins

 

On 5/20/2023 at 10:41 PM, superman12365 said:

 

Especially that the lead dev said "i reserved you a big surprise for the next fund" some vlogs ago, so i was expecting more from this one fund. he basically hyped just for the shake of it.

 

Like @TheCongoSpider said, they only talked about having something "special" reserved for CHALLENGES 

 

On 5/20/2023 at 10:41 PM, superman12365 said:

 

but giving recycled items for almost all tiers is the only way to make sure some people would receive nothing from these blank spaces, not to forget that special edition skin who appear again lol

 

"Special edition" doesn't define rarity, just that it is unique from other skins in same way IC is

[Dopamine 2,161]

On 5/21/2023 at 10:05 AM, Provence said:

Last time there was skin containers, which give what? LGC, XT etc. "recycled" skins

Though I generally do not complain about this fund, I guess there is a point to make that the skin container guarantees you to get a skin you dont yet own, in contrast to the fixed prizes that have been awarded in contests before.

[Romantically 282]

On 5/21/2023 at 12:29 PM, frederik123456 said:

Though I generally do not complain about this fund, I guess there is a point to make that the skin container guarantees you to get a skin you dont yet own, in contrast to the fixed prizes that have been awarded in contests before.

Yes but the point is the person is complaining about "recycled" skins while skin containers (better as they guarantee smth u don't have) still have "recycled" skins from before, making the argument void

[superman12365 9]

On 5/21/2023 at 3:36 AM, TheCongoSpider said:

Nothing about a Tanki Fund was said in that video anywhere. 

"We are going to try something new in addition to the usual challenges".

He is clearly talking about something that would comes especially for tanki birthday, and that is not a challenge. 

It can be either tanki fund or anything else except challenges.

It doesn't take long for any mind to understand he's not talking about the challenge. If not, i will still wait for you to pin me when he would bring that new thing because we both know that will never happen.

The point is the same, they did not bring new things therefore he lied in that vlog. If they bring new things in some days, then i will come back and make excuses to him, im pretty confident that it would never happen.

 

 

On 5/21/2023 at 10:05 AM, Provence said:

Last time there was skin containers, which give what? LGC, XT etc. "recycled" skins

 

Like @TheCongoSpider said, they only talked about having something "special" reserved for CHALLENGES 

 

"Special edition" doesn't define rarity, just that it is unique from other skins in same way IC is

You're playing on words yet, "recycled" skin is something they already put and so on, the player already have it.

Nothing to do with skin containers which give you a skin you dont have regardless if it already appeared previously so it's not bad for everyone because in this case, subjectively the player would get a new skin, subjectively for him. There is no situation where the user get the same reward so your argument is non-valid.

Take the word "recycled" objectively, in this case, alot of players will subjectively get a recycled skin rewards. In this situation, alot of people will get the same thing again.

Now there is no problem for you to see a recycled reward because you might have not received them yet, or in you alt account but let's imagine the case where the next fund you see the same rewards you own again and again, would you be happy?

As for the SE skin, from  a 1 year old memory again, i remember they said in the specific topic that they don't know if they would put it again. This is to make fake urgency to buy it. I don't like it. 

They absolutly did not meant something new for challenges, check the comment i have posted on top of this one. While they might have put a blured picture of a challenge, he told the "something new" would not be for challenge.

 

On one hand the guy who make montage could have made a mistake on a blured picture which isnt so important, on the other hand, the developer clearly stated the new thing would be for something other than challenges, what would you trust lol What i see now, is that there is no new things. Pin me when they put new things 

Edited May 21, 2023 by superman12365

[Romantically 282]

On 5/21/2023 at 12:39 PM, superman12365 said:

"We are going to try something new in addition to the usual challenges".

He is clearly talking about something that would comes especially for tanki birthday, and that is not a challenge. 

It can be either tanki fund or anything else except challenges.

 

Yes can be anything, doesn't have to be tankifund like you were saying before

 

On 5/21/2023 at 12:39 PM, superman12365 said:

You're playing on words yet, "recycled" skin is something they already put and so on, the player already have it.

Nothing to do with skin containers which give you a skin you dont have regardless if it already appeared previously so it's not bad for everyone because in this case, subjectively the player would get a new skin, subjectively for him. There is no situation where the user get the same reward so your argument is non-valid.

 

Maybe you're right, but in the end skin containers only give skins previously available, doesn't matter how they will still fall into "recycled" category

 

On 5/21/2023 at 12:39 PM, superman12365 said:

 

As for the SE skin, from  a 1 year old memory again, i remember they said in the specific topic that they don't know if they would put it again. This is to make fake urgency to buy it. I don't like it. 

 

Don't explain marketing to a Marketing student

 

On 5/21/2023 at 1:04 PM, superman12365 said:

 

in vlog they clearly state they will try on tanki birthday which is in June, currently it's May 21st so they have no reason to announce anything

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 5/21/2023 at 6:39 AM, superman12365 said:

"We are going to try something new in addition to the usual challenges".

He is clearly talking about something that would comes especially for tanki birthday, and that is not a challenge. 

It can be either tanki fund or anything else except challenges.

It doesn't take long for any mind to understand he's not talking about the challenge. If not, i will still wait for you to pin me when he would bring that new thing because we both know that will never happen.

The point is the same, they did not bring new things therefore he lied in that vlog. If they bring new things in some days, then i will come back and make excuses to him, im pretty confident that it would never happen.

Why did you assume with certainty that he was talking about a Tanki Fund? Nothing in the video suggested anything about a Tanki Fund. The birthday celebrations aren't even here yet. You're really jumping the gun here. 

[superman12365 9]

On 5/21/2023 at 2:54 PM, TheCongoSpider said:

Why did you assume with certainty that he was talking about a Tanki Fund? Nothing in the video suggested anything about a Tanki Fund. The birthday celebrations aren't even here yet. You're really jumping the gun here. 

I said he was talking about a new thing, that would come, which is not a challenge. it can be either a tanki fund or something else.

Did you read carefully what i wrote?

I initially talked about tanki fund because of what i remembered from a 1 month old memory.

Usually, if you have some logic, you would understand that the guy initially asked for challenge renew, then the developers talked about repetitive rewards. Then he affirmed challenges would remain with the same plan system (repetitive rewards because challenges' goal is the provide supplies and containers. Other things are bonuses) Then he made a comparison with something that would come in birthday, similar to challenge but IS NOT a challenge. The only thing that exist are tanki fund.  No need to explain it with details, only bad faith would not see it. You just need some logic to understand it but it doesnt surprise me from you.

Then he talked about another things which provide rewards. Some special rewards. The only thing which gives rewards and is not a challenge but with a similar system is a tanki fund AND a birthday exclusive thing is a tanki fund.

Now, what i will tell you is to come back at any date, when they will bring something new. Do not forget to pin me, don't worry, you wont have anyone to pin because it will not happen. Here for 10 years and pretty confident about how they operate.

 

Edited May 21, 2023 by superman12365

[yuvraj007 302]

I am pretty sure the survey preceding this tanki fund is a well-calculated business move.

Most players know that tanki funds are the only events with the highest ROI. Thus, they are more likely to spend real money to buy the cheapest bundle if they don't have enough tankoins.

By giving players 300 tankoins as rewards, they ignited/amplified the buying spark in those players. The cheapest tanki fund bundle costs 990 tankoins & the cheapest tankoin bundle gives 400 tankoins.

So those players will have to buy the 400 tankoins once or twice to be able to participate in the fund.

It makes absolutely no sense for a P2W game to gift 300 tankoins 1 week before tanki fund.

On that note, congrats for completing the fund again.  

Edited May 21, 2023 by yuvraj007

[ReisVerbal 42]

Game needs money to be able to operate, this is a company and not a charity.
Yes, I found the repetitive awards and many LC.
Even so, I will participate, Foundtanki is the fairest event, many prizes with few tankoins without the player having to do anything.

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

On 5/21/2023 at 1:39 PM, superman12365 said:

"We are going to try something new in addition to the usual challenges".

It literally shows a new thing in the corner... It looks like a challenge but better version. From what you can see form the blur it has tankoins, crystals, normal cointainers something green and then something yellow. Probably something new since there are no similar PNGs in the game as of now. In the bottom we see 3? sections that are clearly way bigger. Meaning it's probably some kind of "main" reward. At the right we see another section in exotic colors meaning its probably a skin. from PNG it is probably firebird skin?. This is nothing even close to tanki fund lol 

[superman12365 9]

On 5/21/2023 at 1:34 PM, Provence said:

Yes can be anything, doesn't have to be tankifund like you were saying before

We both agree on this.

 

On 5/21/2023 at 1:34 PM, Provence said:

Maybe you're right, but in the end skin containers only give skins previously available, doesn't matter how they will still fall into "recycled" category

"Recycled" term in battle royal games (which have a battle pass system) is often used to describe something which was already been given previously to a large audience, (in this game it canbe challenges, tanki fund, or tanki in the space journey events) 

They do this to not provide new items but still give rewards to give an impression of having an event full of rewards. Where it's not the case.

For example, there was gauss xt in previous challenge, but it's not the same case because it was not given to a large audience, in any of the 3 events listed. If they give it again, yes, it would become a recycled item. Only a small proportion of players had Gauss xt (including me). So to sum up, recycled items are meant to not give rewards to the same large audience which are playing tanki daily, and so, not hurt the economy of the game.

On 5/21/2023 at 1:34 PM, Provence said:

Don't explain marketing to a Marketing student

I am an online business maker who earn pretty well yearly, therefore i am totally legit to explain you psychology behind those tricky moves, you guys seem to not see at all.

 

On 5/21/2023 at 1:34 PM, Provence said:

in vlog they clearly state they will try on tanki birthday which is in June, currently it's May 21st so they have no reason to announce anything

The reason why i'm so confident about them just hyping for the shake of it is because i know how they operate. 10 years spent in that game taught me alot, mostly good things and some bad things too.

Anyways, it was very fun to debate with you guys, and share different point of views about a specific situation. Peace

[superman12365 9]

On 5/21/2023 at 4:11 PM, Kimura said:

It literally shows a new thing in the corner... It looks like a challenge but better version. From what you can see form the blur it has tankoins, crystals, normal cointainers something green and then something yellow. Probably something new since there are no similar PNGs in the game as of now. In the bottom we see 3? sections that are clearly way bigger. Meaning it's probably some kind of "main" reward. At the right we see another section in exotic colors meaning its probably a skin. from PNG it is probably firebird skin?. This is nothing even close to tanki fund lol 

While what we see is "nothing even close to a fund" what we hear is something not even close to a challenge.

What would you believe, a blurred picture or what the lead dev say? 

I prefer to listen to what he says. (Even if i take the risk of feeling disapointed)