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Still trying to decide on whether or not to purchase a bundle mainly for the draw, considering the lackluster prizes, but when the drawing system seems so flawed, it makes things difficult

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On 6/27/2023 at 8:11 PM, SvinafellTroll said:

Not really. Rally car was clearly a buyer event.

The point was to make all events a buyer event, because the game is already expensive, so why not. F2p's don't need any tankifund pity for 990 entries.

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On 6/27/2023 at 3:33 PM, Akame said:

The point was to make all events a buyer event, because the game is already expensive, so why not. F2p's don't need any tankifund pity for 990 entries.

Then just raise the price of the tanki fund entry price? Still, doing so here wouldn't improve the success of the current fund.

 

People also shouldn't forget that buyers need f2p players just as much as f2p players rely on buyers. While neither party is particularly fond of the other, such is the dynamic we live in. ?

 

But if the buyers vs f2p gap gets too wide, f2p just stop playing and buyers won't have any cannon fodder to shoot at anymore. And while the current gap is about as narrow as it has been in a very long time, there's a noticeable reduction in players in tanki these days unfortunately. It takes much longer to find matches and the ranks often are messed up when you look at sub-marshall lobbies.

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On 6/27/2023 at 3:19 PM, SeiiTaishogun said:

Still trying to decide on whether or not to purchase a bundle mainly for the draw, considering the lackluster prizes, but when the drawing system seems so flawed, it makes things difficult

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Not sure where the flaw is. If you buy 200 or 300 bundles, you're pretty much guaranteed to win a bunch of times

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On 6/27/2023 at 3:11 PM, SvinafellTroll said:

I dont feel sorry for the players who got kicked out of the first round and received only a big fat "L" for their 500 or 700 tk entry. :azn: That event just wasnt for f2p outside of those who liked to take gamble. 

There's nothing to feel sorry for about that considering those who collected the ToA were granted a sponsored entry into the event, an entry many players may have thought against had they not gotten 3,000+ Tankoins given to them. 

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On 6/27/2023 at 10:27 AM, Akame said:

I assume, the content generation for unique augments is on pause for now, the pulsar set is an easy set to finish off for most of the turrets. A few still waiting on most status effects too.

Honestly, the pulsar, stun, ap, and emp augments shouldn't even exist. The only reason they exist is because some players made a poor decision to suggest such things and the devs basically said yes.

On 6/27/2023 at 12:19 PM, SeiiTaishogun said:

Still trying to decide on whether or not to purchase a bundle mainly for the draw, considering the lackluster prizes, but when the drawing system seems so flawed, it makes things difficult

At this point, you're better off just skipping this fund and wait for the next whenever it comes out. Hopefully it'll be much less disappointing.

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On 6/27/2023 at 8:49 PM, SvinafellTroll said:

Then just raise the price of the tanki fund entry price? Still, doing so here wouldn't improve the success of the current fund.

 

My initial speculation was that they were going to increase the entry to 1290 at least, after the tokens, but they decided to keep it at 990 and instead increase the number of levels by a larger quantity.

 

On 6/27/2023 at 8:49 PM, SvinafellTroll said:

 

But if the buyers vs f2p gap gets too wide, f2p just stop playing and buyers won't have any cannon fodder to shoot at anymore. And while the current gap is about as narrow as it has been in a very long time, there's a noticeable reduction in players in tanki these days unfortunately. It takes much longer to find matches and the ranks often are messed up when you look at sub-marshall lobbies.

Haven't they already become cannon fodder in the past few years? The only reason some of them are okay is because they have profited from the game updates and tokens and purchased smartly.

Seeing the past 3 tankifunds, most of the f2p's managed to enter them since we know how far in the 8 digits the fund went, this was all due to a token mainly. We are back to square one now where it's back to basics with the funds not going far into the 8 digits.

Now, the way I see it,  tanki needs to drops the levels to 20 at least, or back down to 15, and increase the entry fee a little higher by a small portion, but in relation, also increase the fund distribution, instead of 1k from a small bundle, a 1.5k.

Seeing the latest, but not fully disclosed future key updates too, a lot of rewards are going to be nerfed when the keys come out since you will be able to save them.

We may go from getting ~90 containers per battle pass, to less than 50 keys, 30 containers per tkfund to ~15 keys, and so on, I would not be surprised if that were to happen either...

Either be satisfied, or be satisfied with being dissatisfied. Everyone will not be pleased.

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I think one of the main purposes of the funds is to bleed out F2Ps, which seems to have worked. Or, in Noam Chomsky's terms, the purpose is "the distribution of wealth and power to those who already have it."

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On 6/27/2023 at 8:43 PM, Akame said:

Either be satisfied, or be satisfied with being dissatisfied. Everyone will not be pleased.

That's not the right attitude to go about things. If this kind of thing continues to happen, less and less players will buy the bundles, resulting in one of 2 consequences:

1) the devs will put in better rewards with more variety (this would be the best outcome).

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2) the devs will stop hosting funds altogether, and they'll just be another thing of the past (this is the more likely outcome).

 

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On 6/28/2023 at 7:38 AM, PirateSpider said:

That's not the right attitude to go about things. If this kind of thing continues to happen, less and less players will buy the bundles, resulting in one of 2 consequences:

1) the devs will put in better rewards with more variety (this would be the best outcome).

Hopefully the devs will listen this time atleast, or have something planned that we don't know but I agree this would be ideal outcome to satisfy devs and players alike ?

 

On 6/28/2023 at 7:38 AM, PirateSpider said:

 

2) the devs will stop hosting funds altogether, and they'll just be another thing of the past (this is the more likely outcome).

 

Tankifund becoming like skins from normal containers or containers overall having things like premium and better rewards is terrifying  ??

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Is there a way of hiding that I took part in this embarrassing fund? I need to hide my profile, so people will not see the tale-telling paints in my garage, right?

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On 6/28/2023 at 12:24 PM, Krakensalat said:

Is there a way of hiding that I took part in this embarrassing fund? I need to hide my profile, so people will not see the tale-telling paints in my garage, right?

Well, talking about it on public forum is definitely not the way to hide participation, but okay, No need to hide profile, nobody is checking them anyway, especially not on some random person you never heard about. Nobody really cares who did or did not take part tbh.

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On 6/28/2023 at 6:24 AM, Krakensalat said:

Is there a way of hiding that I took part in this embarrassing fund? I need to hide my profile, so people will not see the tale-telling paints in my garage, right?

You're being overdramatic. 

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On 6/28/2023 at 6:24 AM, Krakensalat said:

Is there a way of hiding that I took part in this embarrassing fund? I need to hide my profile, so people will not see the tale-telling paints in my garage, right?

I mean, there is a way to hide your profile if you really want to.

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On 6/28/2023 at 3:24 AM, Krakensalat said:

Is there a way of hiding that I took part in this embarrassing fund? I need to hide my profile, so people will not see the tale-telling paints in my garage, right?

Mines been hidden for nearly two years now. So regardless whether or not someone wants to look at my profile, they would have to give up those hopes very quickly.

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On 6/28/2023 at 6:38 AM, PirateSpider said:

That's not the right attitude to go about things. If this kind of thing continues to happen, less and less players will buy the bundles, resulting in one of 2 consequences:

1) the devs will put in better rewards with more variety (this would be the best outcome).

OR

2) the devs will stop hosting funds altogether, and they'll just be another thing of the past (this is the more likely outcome).

 

I want the latter at this point. If people keep complaining, might as well lose the whole tankifund event and return back to the paywall events where noone really wins and the net is a loss.

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On 6/28/2023 at 10:41 PM, Akame said:

I want the latter at this point. If people keep complaining, might as well lose the whole tankifund event

Would not be surprising because Tanki funds is nothing at this point now, its just free goodies for you if you are lucky (have tankoins to buy the bundle or not at the time of the fund). Sort of like free Ultra Weekend rewards without actually doing the missions. 

Good times was when this concept started, the amount of tankoins for the price bundle was quite high or in a way quite feasible with respect to its stage rewards. At that time, people didn't use to have tankoins that much as compared to present to buy bundles with a blind eye except buyers ofc. But now, a fund every 4-5 months with the same rewards, some new, rest all the common old prizes which are not even rare. Plus, everyone has tankoins these days, from any common source whatsoever, which effectively reduces the excitement and rarity of the fund. A major example is a single person winning from huge amount of I'd's specifically created for Tanki funds.

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On 6/28/2023 at 6:24 PM, NikmanGT said:

A major example is a single person winning from huge amount of I'd's specifically created for Tanki funds.

All pretty much caused by the broken token unfortunately which can't be undone, we're back to square one now, so, hopefully no more token; though the plenty that have managed to win on many generated alt accounts will simply still keep recycling those tk's, often getting lucky enough to proceed doing so a bit more longer.

Whatever they do next, will have to be a bit more engaging and creative, though we might get one of those space type game/events next sooner than anticipated, i wonder.

Likely we have missed out on a cheap driver augment. Which would be the 4th driver augment in the game so far, with plenty more to come, most will be space events whilst some ultras, along with loss of control type events where you may need to buy tiers to get to a decent level.

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I didn't expect this fund will go so poorly. Somehow I understand few reasons. I've thought a little more deeply about this topic.

1. Those triple +1 module slots. Well, that would be useful for newbies and many new players. WOULD BE. How much % of new players begin to spend money while the beginning of their gaming adventure. 1%? no no no, maybe 5%, 10%, a little bit more? I don't count multi-accounts of players who buy real money on such low ranks and buy those bundles. Well, honestly developers wanted good for new players, but forgotten that even 990 Tankoins is still too high price for them. Also, what are the benefits of acquiring these slots when someone has already acquired the remaining slots from previous ones? NOTHING! Most (?) of players, especially those who have been playing for a long time got those all slots from Tanki Funds. I don't understand why there are no compensations for those module slots when somebody has all four already. Maybe 300 Tankoins compensations? I know, dreams, but what about 30.000 crystals?! If you have better idea of compensation, I'll read it ?

2. Low amount of skins and augments. Yes, there should be more skins in this fund. They don't affect gameplay, and the game can make money for itself in a harmless way. Why not? But I still don't understand why some players complain about so little amount of augments. I thought it was said that those augments make this game more complicated, still want more of them? You want this game more complicated?! Bruh... But yes, even if there were a lot of them, lot of people would continue to complain that there are not enough. And after that complain about the gameplay. The rich always complain that it's "not enough" and want more.

3. Paints. Well, it's it's obvious that some will like them and others won't. The same thing with augments, skins and many other things. Nevertheless, if you get these paints, you don't have to play with them. Who is supposedly forcing you?

4. +1 Milion Tankoins to the Fund. Well, players can get more Tankoins from draw, I don't get why you complain about that. Some lucky people will get thousands of Tankoins when they only spend 990 Tankoins. Well, if somebody spend more than 990 Tankoins, they'll get a lot more in return.

De facto, less participants = higher chances of winning Tankoins from draw (if you participate in this fund) ? Maybe this time I'll be the lucky one (With my luck I can only dream, but I'll try.)

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Is there a way of hiding that I took part in this embarrassing fund? I need to hide my profile, so people will not see the tale-telling paints in my garage, right?

If you consider this fund "embarrasssing" why did you buy one of those bundles?! Bruh ? I don't understand why did you do that. Yes, hide your profile.

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if we reach level 25 i think  the fund would get some momentum to get hunter GT at least (hopefully)

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On 6/28/2023 at 10:11 AM, Akame said:

I want the latter at this point. If people keep complaining, might as well lose the whole tankifund event and return back to the paywall events where noone really wins and the net is a loss.

I mean the complaints are valid. The majority don't want tanki fund event to be removed. But the rewards need to be worth investing. Some of us are even trying to give out ideas to improve the next fund they hold. It'd be very unfortunate if they stopped doing the funds just because they didn't want to act reasonable player feedback.

On 6/28/2023 at 1:45 PM, Deceptive-Hope_EN.PL said:

Those triple +1 module slots. Well, that would be useful for newbies and many new players. WOULD BE. How much % of new players begin to spend money while the beginning of their gaming adventure. 1%? no no no, maybe 5%, 10%, a little bit more? I don't count multi-accounts of players who buy real money on such low ranks and buy those bundles. Well, honestly developers wanted good for new players, but forgotten that even 990 Tankoins is still too high price for them. Also, what are the benefits of acquiring these slots when someone has already acquired the remaining slots from previous ones? NOTHING! Most (?) of players, especially those who have been playing for a long time got those all slots from Tanki Funds. I don't understand why there are no compensations for those module slots when somebody has all four already. Maybe 300 Tankoins compensations? I know, dreams, but what about 30.000 crystals?! If you have better idea of compensation, I'll read it ?

1 module slot per fund is enough. Any other reward would be better than 2 extra module slots.

On 6/28/2023 at 1:45 PM, Deceptive-Hope_EN.PL said:

Low amount of skins and augments. Yes, there should be more skins in this fund. They don't affect gameplay, and the game can make money for itself in a harmless way. Why not? But I still don't understand why some players complain about so little amount of augments. I thought it was said that those augments make this game more complicated, still want more of them? You want this game more complicated?! Bruh... But yes, even if there were a lot of them, lot of people would continue to complain that there are not enough. And after that complain about the gameplay. The rich always complain that it's "not enough" and want more.

I honestly don't care how many skins or augments the fund has, but if there's alot of them, make sure there's variety. Don't make alot of them be the same kind.

On 6/28/2023 at 1:45 PM, Deceptive-Hope_EN.PL said:

Paints. Well, it's it's obvious that some will like them and others won't. The same thing with augments, skins and many other things. Nevertheless, if you get these paints, you don't have to play with them. Who is supposedly forcing you?

Again, who cares how many paints there are? If there is alot of paints, make sure there's variety and not just the same kind.

On 6/28/2023 at 1:45 PM, Deceptive-Hope_EN.PL said:

. +1 Milion Tankoins to the Fund. Well, players can get more Tankoins from draw, I don't get why you complain about that. Some lucky people will get thousands of Tankoins when they only spend 990 Tankoins. Well, if somebody spend more than 990 Tankoins, they'll get a lot more in return.

I honestly don't mind this.

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On 6/28/2023 at 11:19 PM, CelestiaI said:

if we reach level 25 i think  the fund would get some momentum to get hunter GT at least (hopefully)

Not likely to happen at all. 12 days left, on a seemingly end life of an exponential curve. I'm assuming we will at most hit around 18-23M, if lucky (unless parkour players spam cheap shop with the '90% off tkpass, which isn't truly 90% off' on new accounts), which is still a decent standard, just not broken.

@emrakulDid anyone, or you, track the current fund by hour/day by chance? If so, would you be able to show us the general curve till now?

 

On 6/29/2023 at 1:50 AM, PirateSpider said:

 But the rewards need to be worth investing.

They are worth enough, for the minimum entry fee. But tanki has put more tiers than the playerbase can genuinely hit. Lack of a decent minimal spending playerbase is the main concern where the game can't finish a 50 tier event. However if this was a 20Mill event, with a bit more condensed reward set, it would have been a bit more visual.

I.e, if this was a fortnite event, all the kids would have begged their mamas for '15 dolla' to be into an event for a skin, backbling and emotes for less than that price and since that game has quite the large player base, it would easily hit a higher communal level, i.e more than 100 tiers of the same standard. But tanki which has a far smaller count, would hardly be able to hit lower levels with the real player count, ignoring token accounts.

On 6/29/2023 at 1:50 AM, PirateSpider said:

If there is alot of paints, make sure there's variety and not just the same kind.

 

I agree with this, mono paints should have had a different unique palette at least, rather than some being identical to old common paints.

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The fund wold have gone better if they put it like a half a year away from amazing birthday fund. This big of a change after like a treasure chest for 990 TK... No wonder why people didn't like this. Fire the one who suggested doing so)) Just joking...

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