Shaft Augment RAPID-FIRE MODE Needs Nerf

[AzaborBR 128]

This augment needs urgent nerf, a shaft, ranged turret is better than medium and close range turrets! How outrageous!

Look at the higher ranking battles, players with this augment are easily getting 40.50 kills per battle, while others with assault turrets, can't even come close.

I don't know if it's a bug, but with this augment, 90% of the time, in 3 shots, 1 or 2, they will always be critical... How is that possible?

I have dictator FULL, Protection against shaft in +40 and if I don't use armor, or if I will use damage to shot with striker, a shaft can easly kill me with no chances to use a simple armor or repair.

Even if I use armor (with Striker and dictator FULL mk7-20, armadilo +20, Eagle 42, Crisis Drone FULL 20. Shaft still can beat in a closer battle. Even using Uranium augment for Striker.

(And another thing, when will you fix these bugs? Mission tab freezes and needs quit game and , weakly container didn't open and you need quit game too -.- ).

Edited August 26, 2023 by AzaborBR

[Maf 32,302]

Meanwhile Heavy Slugger: 

[TheCongoSpider 8,952]

On 8/26/2023 at 11:03 AM, AzaborBR said:

Look at the higher ranking battles, players with this augment are easily getting 40.50 kills per battle, while others with assault turrets, can't even come close.

Usually because they're using it with Crisis, which gives a big boost in efficiency to anything with long range. 

On 8/26/2023 at 11:03 AM, AzaborBR said:

I have dictator FULL, Protection against shaft in +40 and if I don't use armor, or if I will use damage to shot with striker, a shaft can easly kill me with no chances to use a simple armor or repair.

You can do something similar with a quickscope with the sniping Shafts. RFM isn't special in that regard. 

 

On 8/26/2023 at 11:03 AM, AzaborBR said:

I don't know if it's a bug, but with this augment, 90% of the time, in 3 shots, 1 or 2, they will always be critical... How is that possible?

You're gonna need to provide a video of multiple instances of this. I played it earlier today and nothing was out of the ordinary. I'm gonna need to ask how long you've been closely watching RFM Shafts. Shaft's critical chance parameters were last changed 2 months ago so if you've been closely watching them long before that, then that would better explain why they deal critical damage to you often. 

 

Shaft's current critical hit scheme is 18, 0, 18. It's not unlikely for it to get a critical hit on the first burst after spawning. Getting two critical hits from one burst of 3 is rare but can and does happen. For all I know, it could be negativity bias on your part. 

 

Having Armadillo would be ideal against it, as it is for almost every turret if you're walking around without Booster Armour enabled. Lots of turrets deal more than x1 critical damage that can take off a lot of your HP if you're unprotected against it.

To me, it sounds like you're going up against a lot of Crisis RFMs and/or you're already injured beforehand. One of the interaction changes with Crisis is killing medium hulls with DA with a burst that consists of two normals and a critical hit if something on the target is unmaxed. In your case, your Shaft protection is unmaxed and allowing Crisis RFM Shafts to cross 3,000 damage in total to kill you. 

Edited August 26, 2023 by TheCongoSpider

[Maf 32,302]

Just to emphasise my point above:

Augments make initial turret designations completely irrelevant. Short range turrets can become long range, and long range can become short range. Also it's no secret that augments somewhat boost equipment power, while some legendary tier ones are outright blatantly OP.

For example, in case of Heavy Slugger, the only disadvantage is 20% slower turret rotation speed (basically a joke), so you end up with DPS of a short range turret and range of a medium-long range turret. It's absolutely ridiculous, and a far bigger issue than Shaft RFM.

[Me0w_XP 523]

If I'm being quite honest, playing with RFM without a damage boosting drone is underwhelming. Pair it with Crisis and it becomes OP, but... that's kind of the case with everything nowadays.

[jdc20181 213]

A lot of augments and turrets need some balance. Skorpion is a good example.

[TheCongoSpider 8,952]

On 9/8/2023 at 8:25 AM, jdc20181 said:

A lot of augments and turrets need some balance. Skorpion is a good example.

Do you think it is a weak turret or overpowered turret as of now?

[jdc20181 213]

On 9/8/2023 at 8:37 AM, TheCongoSpider said:

Do you think it is a weak turret or overpowered turret as of now?

It is OP.... You rarely can survive 1 hit from the rockets. And that is with almost a MK7 Titan.... and they sometimes come through barriers. Depending the type.

[TheCongoSpider 8,952]

On 8/26/2023 at 11:03 AM, AzaborBR said:

Even if I use armor (with Striker and dictator FULL mk7-20, armadilo +20, Eagle 42, Crisis Drone FULL 20. Shaft still can beat in a closer battle. Even using Uranium augment for Striker.

 

On 8/26/2023 at 11:56 AM, TheCongoSpider said:

To me, it sounds like you're going up against a lot of Crisis RFMs and/or you're already injured beforehand. One of the interaction changes with Crisis is killing medium hulls with DA with a burst that consists of two normals and a critical hit if something on the target is unmaxed. In your case, your Shaft protection is unmaxed and allowing Crisis RFM Shafts to cross 3,000 damage in total to kill you. 

Unfortunately for you, the recent patch now allows maxed Crisis RFMs to cross 3,000 final damage against medium hulls with 50% Shaft and Armadillo if they do not have any Boosted Armour activated. Good luck out there.

Edited December 2, 2023 by TheCongoSpider

[Macabre 207]

On 12/2/2023 at 5:55 PM, TheCongoSpider said:

 

Unfortunately for you, the recent patch now allows maxed Crisis RFMs to cross 3,000 final damage against medium hulls with 50% Shaft and Armadillo if they do not have any Booster Armour activated. Good luck out there.

*Happy @Akame noises*

[Akame 4,580]

On 12/2/2023 at 7:14 PM, Macabre said:

*Happy @Akame noises*

I despise RFM completely. It is not a sniper augment.

[Macabre 207]

On 12/3/2023 at 2:27 PM, Akame said:

I despise RFM completely. It is not a sniper augment.

I saw u use it the other day, thought it was your go-to shaft augment.

[Akame 4,580]

On 12/3/2023 at 3:16 PM, Macabre said:

I saw u use it the other day, thought it was your go-to shaft augment.

Let me correct your misunderstanding.

You are either blind or are mixing me with Akuma named players if you 'saw' me with RFM.

The one instance I managed to find you in a game and have had it clipped: 

 

Those who actually have seen me, know I do not use RFM. So before you try to add baseless allegations, bring some actual facts, along with some pics too.

[Hypersomnia 1,703]

On 12/3/2023 at 6:32 PM, Akame said:

You are either blind or are mixing me with Akuma named players if you 'saw' me with RFM.

Definitely lol

Akame knows what he's doing with Shaft.

Akuma bots use the most braindead augment for X turret imaginable no matter what. 

_{(How much on that Shaft Trophy?)}

[Akame 4,580]

On 12/3/2023 at 4:34 PM, Kimura said:

 

_{(How much on that Shaft Trophy?)}

Still a long way to go, but I don't mind the slow pace and 1 combo gaming. Would be more fun if we had more fun variety to use, an adaptive or a piercing shaft would be fun. I get around 40-60 mins a day on average just for daily + encore missions then I go off. I would prefer it if tanki added like a reputation bonus pass though, money incentive may work, though would be nice if it was included within premium itself.

[Hypersomnia 1,703]

On 12/3/2023 at 6:44 PM, Akame said:

I would prefer it if tanki added like a reputation bonus pass though, money incentive may work, though would be nice if it was included within premium itself.

It would break the Leaderboard system. So they have to came up with a way where you can get/buy extra reputation pts but it doesn't effect the in-match leaderboard. In other terms if they started working on this today you'd get it in game in 2025 maybe 2026.

[Macabre 207]

On 12/3/2023 at 6:32 PM, Akame said:

Let me correct your misunderstanding.

You are either blind or are mixing me with Akuma named players if you 'saw' me with RFM.

The one instance I managed to find you in a game and have had it clipped: 

 

Those who actually have seen me, know I do not use RFM. So before you try to add baseless allegations, bring some actual facts, along with some pics too.

Man, you really took that one personally. I genuinely thought it was you who were using RFM, but apparently I confused you with one of the Akuma players. And understandably so, given the resemblance. 

I don't know why took my statement as an "allegation", but I assure you it was nothing but a mere human mistake.