Why is the high-rank game balance so damn awful?

[alkyng 3,080]

On 11/9/2023 at 10:38 PM, PirateSpider said:

Some people have gotten lucky from just 5 UCs while some others have gotten unlucky from 3 sets of 15 Ultras.

@TheCongoSpider can tell you all about it.

Why dont you take a guess? If you need a hint just look at my first statement of this post.

Then what's the issue?

Well, to who we can put the blame on that I didn't get the augment at that time? And how would I have done better than what I did in the 11 months journey of getting this augment?

Edited November 9, 2023 by firety31

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 11/9/2023 at 12:48 PM, firety31 said:

Well, to who we can put the blame on that I didn't get the augment at that time? And how would I have done better than what I did in the 11 months journey of getting this augment?

You really need to get over it and just move on.

Whining about this specific mundane thing that happened to you 2 years ago is equivalent to an adult crying over spilt milk.

I still don't have EMP gauss, but you don't see me crying about it. I don't care whether I get it or not, and that's because there are plenty of other augments out there.

[MEXICAN-SKY 308]

On 11/9/2023 at 6:24 PM, firety31 said:

Well, when an OP item has 0.00000000000001% probability to get it, and the game gives you only 5 UCs to get that OP item, and you opened them and didn't get it, what can you say

That like most players you very rarely get what you want when you want it. You have just had rotten luck, which does not mean that it was unattainable.

The game is rigged in favour of "THE GAME" to elicit as much cash as they can from players.

Getting the next MK level is a prime example, because now you need tankoins to acquire it. 

The devs will employ any and all tactics that will give them the ability to make cash from players, regardless of the negative feedback they always seem to get when introducing new methods/updates into this highly overpriced game.

You only have to go to the shop to see the evidence of their greed and utter contempt for their player base.

 

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

On 11/10/2023 at 4:13 AM, PirateSpider said:

You really need to get over it and just move on.

Whining about this specific mundane thing that happened to you 2 years ago is equivalent to an adult crying over spilt milk.

I still don't have EMP gauss, but you don't see me crying about it. I don't care whether I get it or not, and that's because there are plenty of other augments out there.

Im too lazy to read all this but is he complaining that he didn't get lucky and didn't pull EMP gauss from a cont? So now he thinks tanki rigged his conts or removed EMP gauss from his conts?
Bruh the Stat Spider won't help him if he can't comprehend something as simple as RNG. 

(weren't you besties in the other topic weeks ago lol)

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 11/10/2023 at 4:53 AM, Kimura said:

Im too lazy to read all this but is he complaining that he didn't get lucky and didn't pull EMP gauss from a cont?

Correct.

On 11/10/2023 at 4:53 AM, Kimura said:

So now he thinks tanki rigged his conts or removed EMP gauss from his conts?

Sounds like he thinks that the items aren't as obtainable for free players as they are for buyers. But he keeps mentioning that he hasn't been able to obtain EMP gauss 11 months after it released, as if obtaining 1 specific item in 11 months means anything.

On 11/10/2023 at 4:53 AM, Kimura said:

weren't you besties in the other topic weeks ago lol)

Funny, I thought you "forgot about it" according to what you said in another topic. 

 

Also, just because we've agreed on something, doesn't mean that we're suddenly "besties". It just means we agreed on something.

[alkyng 3,080]

On 11/10/2023 at 5:13 AM, PirateSpider said:

You really need to get over it and just move on.

Whining about this specific mundane thing that happened to you 2 years ago is equivalent to an adult crying over spilt milk.

I still don't have EMP gauss, but you don't see me crying about it. I don't care whether I get it or not, and that's because there are plenty of other augments out there.

Well, I think that's enough of discussion, it may even be better for me if I put you in ignore. You for three pages eluding from answering a direct argument and now you weirdly started to insult. No I don't care about EMP Gauss that much I even forgot what was that augment be, I don't play Tanki now but I was replying to your argument that everything is accessible for non-buyers. Calling my takes as whining is just a rude thing.

On 11/10/2023 at 3:53 PM, Kimura said:

Im too lazy to read all this

Well, read then come to comment again.

On 11/10/2023 at 3:53 PM, Kimura said:

(weren't you besties in the other topic weeks ago lol)

That's over a month not weeks ago also I'm not obligated to have all the same opinions with Pirate like your freaking uniformed opinions with Akame and Mexican. Literally you can exchange passwords and no one would notice a difference.

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

On 11/10/2023 at 5:56 PM, PirateSpider said:

Sounds like he thinks that the items aren't as obtainable for free players as they are for buyers. But he keeps mentioning that he hasn't been able to obtain EMP gauss 11 months after it released, as if obtaining 1 specific item in 11 months means anything.

Sounds like "Tanki Player has no idea how RNG works" situation #999999999

 

On 11/10/2023 at 5:56 PM, PirateSpider said:

Funny, I thought you "forgot about it" according to what you said in another topic. 

What did I say in another topic? 

 

On 11/10/2023 at 5:56 PM, PirateSpider said:

Also, just because we've agreed on something, doesn't mean that we're suddenly "besties". It just means we agreed on something.

Besties.

 

On 11/10/2023 at 6:26 PM, firety31 said:

That's over a month not weeks ago also I'm not obligated to have all the same opinions with Pirate like your freaking uniformed opinions with Akame and Mexican. Literally you can exchange passwords and no one would notice a difference.

It's like we have common sense. Funny how you say we all have the same opinions yet I'm pretty sure my last 2 points we're completely against Akame and Mexican. 
Also password exchange is not allowed. Read more --> https://tankionline.com/en/rules/

[Limanda 45]

On 11/10/2023 at 5:26 PM, firety31 said:

it may even be better for me if I put you in ignore

Someone on this forum (not me) recently stated in a post that they had done this. Their post was edited, I assume after being reported, so you are apparently not allowed to say this. But you are welcome join the club, you will not regret your membership.

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 11/10/2023 at 8:26 AM, firety31 said:

You for three pages eluding from answering a direct argument and now you weirdly started to insult.

You want me to answer your question? Fine I'll answer your question.

"Did firety obtain EMP gauss during the 11 month period after it was released?" 

No he got unlucky there.

 

Does it really matter though? It shouldn't since there are literally hundreds of other augments you could've settled for.

I was hoping for a good legendary augment for thunder for like 4 or 5 months now.

Did I obtain any of them? No.

Did I ever make a huge deal over it? No, and I'm definitely not gonna start now.

Why am I not making a huge deal over it? I have plenty of other good augments that I have already settled for.

It wasn't an insult, it's just brutal honesty.

On 11/10/2023 at 8:26 AM, firety31 said:

No I don't care about EMP Gauss that much I even forgot what was that augment be

Three pages of you continuously mentioning it says otherwise.

On 11/10/2023 at 8:26 AM, firety31 said:

I don't play Tanki now but I was replying to your argument that everything is accessible for non-buyers. Calling my takes as whining is just a rude thing.

If you currently don't play tanki, then how do you know that non buyers don't have as much access to everything as buyers?

The only things that buyers will be able to get that free players can't are:

- The daily tankoin pass.

- A super rare bundle. (If they still do that)

- 200-290 ultra container bundle. (For gigachad mega buyers only)

- Challenge accepted (for gigachad mega buyers only)

Again it's not rude, just bluntly honest.

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 11/10/2023 at 9:16 AM, Kimura said:

What did I say in another topic? 

" And here you are writing an essay about something I already forgot about and others trying to come to my DMs to insult me. I'm so sad now!"

This was after Limanda called you a "narcissist" after stalking my forum profile.

3rd page in the interview with hazel topics.

On 11/10/2023 at 9:16 AM, Kimura said:

Besties

With that logic then it makes sense for me to call you Mexican, and Akame "buddies" because you all agreed once before.

    

[alkyng 3,080]

On 11/10/2023 at 11:22 PM, PirateSpider said:

Does it really matter though?

Here your problem starts again. First you're quoting a question of yours, not an exact of what I wrote. Second why you say again if it does matter or not, while all of what I'm replying to is this statement of yours:

On 10/21/2023 at 4:17 AM, PirateSpider said:

Actually, a free player can get all of these, might not be as quick, but can definitely get them.

You literally said a f2p can get everything, I replied to you of an example of a thing that I didn't get. All of what I was saying after that in my comments is showing how I didn't get that augment as a f2p, which just refute your argument. You and Kimura are just trying to distort my words that I'm desperate of getting that augment rather than understanding that I'm just giving a living example of f2p player limitation.

On 11/10/2023 at 11:22 PM, PirateSpider said:

It wasn't an insult, it's just brutal honesty.

It's nice how you insist and don't apologize for your comment!

On 11/10/2023 at 11:22 PM, PirateSpider said:

The only things that buyers will be able to get that free players can't are:

- The daily tankoin pass.

- A super rare bundle. (If they still do that)

- 200-290 ultra container bundle. (For gigachad mega buyers only)

- Challenge accepted (for gigachad mega buyers only)

 

I'm only talking about real game items that affect the battle. Definitely daily tankoins won't be purchasable for non-buyers because your paying for tankoins, this wont make sense if you purchase them with in-game currency.

Edited November 10, 2023 by firety31

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

On 11/10/2023 at 10:33 PM, PirateSpider said:

" And here you are writing an essay about something I already forgot about and others trying to come to my DMs to insult me. I'm so sad now!"

This was after Limanda called you a "narcissist" after stalking my forum profile.

Ohh yeah i remember now lol got 3 people mad and someone just randomly tagged me for no reason on a topic too

 

On 11/10/2023 at 10:33 PM, PirateSpider said:

With that logic then it makes sense for me to call you Mexican, and Akame "buddies" because you all agreed once before.

Well we are actually tanki buddies lol

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 11/10/2023 at 12:56 PM, firety31 said:

Second why you say again if it does matter or not, while all of what I'm replying to is this statement of yours:

And that statement was a direct response to Gabes out-of-touch claim of:

"A free player will never have 40% of the power buyers have"

On 11/10/2023 at 12:56 PM, firety31 said:

I replied to you of an example of a thing that I didn't get. All of what I was saying after that in my comments is showing how I didn't get that augment as a f2p, which just refute your argument.

That example of yours was 2 years ago. I don't remember if buyers had more access to all the good stuff back then, but I can tell you right now that there is nothing that buyer can get that nonbuyers can't in today's tanki.

On 11/10/2023 at 12:56 PM, firety31 said:

You literally said a f2p can get everything,

Eventually, key word eventually. I even said it here:

 

On 11/10/2023 at 12:56 PM, firety31 said:

It's nice how you insist and don't apologize for your comment!

You want an apology? Fine. I'm sorry. 

There, are you happy?

[MEXICAN-SKY 308]

On 11/10/2023 at 8:56 PM, firety31 said:

You literally said a f2p can get everything,

Which is possibly true if enough time elapses and you roll the dice enough times over a period of about a trillion years "AND" taken into account the devs don't change the parameters of the game in-between this time frame. This scenario should give you a chance to get the item that you want.

On 11/10/2023 at 9:33 AM, MEXICAN-SKY said:

On 11/9/2023 at 6:24 PM, firety31 said:

 

That like most players you very rarely get what you want when you want it. You have just had rotten luck, which does not mean that it was unattainable.

There you go. I have now answered your question twice.    

[alkyng 3,080]

On 11/11/2023 at 1:12 PM, MEXICAN-SKY said:

There you go. I have now answered your question twice.    

So that augment was available for me? 

On 11/11/2023 at 1:12 PM, MEXICAN-SKY said:

Which is possibly true if enough time elapses and you roll the dice enough times over a period of about a trillion years "AND" taken into account the devs don't change the parameters of the game in-between this time frame. This scenario should give you a chance to get the item that you want.

First this isn't guaranteed, you may not even get it. Secondly Tanki will never offer this amount of UCs for you to try. Thirdly Tanki would nerf that augment down to earth way before you can try this number UCs.

Edited November 11, 2023 by firety31

[MEXICAN-SKY 308]

On 11/11/2023 at 11:48 AM, firety31 said:

So that augment was available for me? 

First this isn't guaranteed, you may not even get it. Secondly Tanki will never offer this amount of UCs for you to try. Thirdly Tanki would nerf that augment down to earth way before you can try this number UCs.

Given enough time you will get what you want.

If a trillion years is not enough, how about the longevity of your typical black hole, which is about 10 to the power of 35 x some really big number.

Your thirdly point (so quaint) is probably true though. 

Remember this is TO. Nothing is set in stone except the devs ability to screw players over on a whim.

[Jeers4U 665]

On 10/21/2023 at 6:13 PM, Gabe2607 said:

 calculating... calculating... calculating.... ERROR

This is the normal crap I get from the UCs:

Out of 15, 4 were paints.

 

 

 

[Gabe2607 215]

On 11/10/2023 at 9:56 PM, firety31 said:

Well, I think that's enough of discussion, it may even be better for me if I put you in ignore. You for three pages eluding from answering a direct argument and now you weirdly started to insult.

  that guy never made any sense. If you write that wasp is faster than viking, he will comment (because he always has to comment every post...) that you are not a good player, as it depends on the drone type... 

 

On 11/12/2023 at 9:22 AM, Jeers4U said:

This is the normal crap I get from the UCs:

Out of 15, 4 were paints.

 

 

 

I think there are about 650 paints (weapons effects excluded), so for another four years (but Tanki will make more of course), that will be your normal gathering  

I recently started to complete all missions. I hate to play MM, as I find it literally disgusting, but we are at a point where the few remaining Pro Battles are played by buyers coming with all sort of augments that make them x-times stronger even without supplies. I got hundreds of UCs and I think I got 24 tankoins in a month. 5000 are needed for the 4th protection... and still someone claims that free players have access to the same possibilities than buyers...

 

On 11/9/2023 at 11:54 PM, firety31 said:

How they managed to get it? I literally followed all of the few possible ways tanki made available for us to get EMP Gauss, and I didn't get it. This is why I has a positive assumption that EMP Gauss isn't available for me.

As buyers have a full garage already, once a new item comes out, their chances to get it is very high, either through normal game UCs or from additional $ purchases of containers. A free player has a very limited garage, therefore between the many missing items, it is very unlikely you will get what you are looking for.

[THECOOL33 14]

As a neutral bystander, I must say I thoroughly enjoyed delving into the entirety of this three-page thread - you guys are truly a captivating bunch! I couldn't resist chiming in to share my "experience" snagging the EMP Gauss from seven ultra containers around its release, and now I "proudly" have all module slots filled on each of my four free-to-play accounts.

Kudos to all for the engaging discussions and keep up the fantastic work! Cheers!

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 11/11/2023 at 10:29 PM, Gabe2607 said:

that guy never made any sense

And you did? Get the hell outta here.

On 11/11/2023 at 10:29 PM, Gabe2607 said:

you write that wasp is faster than viking, he will comment (because he always has to comment every post...) that you are not a good player, as it depends on the drone type... 

Since when did I write something even remotely similar to this?

On 11/11/2023 at 10:29 PM, Gabe2607 said:

recently started to complete all missions. I hate to play MM, as I find it literally disgusting, but we are at a point where the few remaining Pro Battles are played by buyers coming with all sort of augments that make them x-times stronger even without supplies. I got hundreds of UCs and I think I got 24 tankoins in a month. 5000 are needed for the 4th protection... and still someone claims that free players have access to the same possibilities than buyers...

 

On 11/11/2023 at 10:29 PM, Gabe2607 said:

As buyers have a full garage already, once a new item comes out, their chances to get it is very high, either through normal game UCs or from additional $ purchases of containers. A free player has a very limited garage, therefore between the many missing items, it is very unlikely you will get what you are looking for.

Then care to list all the ways that buyers can get the good stuff that nonbuyers cannot?

On 11/12/2023 at 4:55 AM, THECOOL33 said:

As a neutral bystander, I must say I thoroughly enjoyed delving into the entirety of this three-page thread - you guys are truly a captivating bunch!

Not really captivating. We're just a bunch of weirdos who like to make these kind of discussions as serious as real life debates, I guess.

[Romantically 282]

On 11/12/2023 at 7:29 AM, Gabe2607 said:

. 5000 are needed for the 4th protection... and still someone claims that free players have access to the same possibilities than buyers...

Considering all the ways Tanki gives us protection slots, it's obsolete to buy it 

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 11/12/2023 at 10:36 AM, Romantically said:

Considering all the ways Tanki gives us protection slots, it's obsolete to buy it 

Yeah, if you were smart with your tankoins, you could get at least one slot from funds for around 1k and also get many other things.

[Gabe2607 215]

On 11/12/2023 at 1:36 PM, Romantically said:

Considering all the ways Tanki gives us protection slots, it's obsolete to buy it 

... please list "all the ways" Tanki gives to free players for the 4th protection slot ...

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 11/12/2023 at 9:22 PM, Gabe2607 said:

... please list "all the ways" Tanki gives to free players for the 4th protection slot ...

Tanki Fund - June, 2022

Tanki Fund -  July, 2022

Trick or Treat Minigame - October, 2022

Tanki Fund - November 2022

Large Token of Apology - December 2022

Snow Trap Minigame - January 2023

Dark Matter Minigame - April 2023

Tanki Fund - May 2023

Tanki Fund - June 2023

Trick or Treat Minigame - October 2023

 

 

You can probably add the upcoming Tanki Fund later this month to the list as well. 

 

Edited November 13, 2023 by TheCongoSpider

[Gabe2607 215]

On 11/12/2023 at 9:41 PM, TheCongoSpider said:

Tanki Fund - June, 2022

Tanki Fund -  July, 2022

Trick or Treat Minigame - October, 2022

Tanki Fund - November 2022

Large Token of Apology - December 2022

Snow Trap Minigame - January 2023

Dark Matter Minigame - April 2023

Tanki Fund - May 2023

Tanki Fund - June 2023

Trick or Treat Minigame - October 2023

 

 

You can probably add the upcoming Tanki Fund later this month to the list as well. 

 

Thanks. I admit I had no idea what those "events" are. In Googling Tanki Funds, I read (1,190 ?) tankoins are required to participate. If I am correct, please confirm, it would be just another way buyers get stuff over free players.