event The «Tanki and The Snow Trap» mini-game

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 12/31/2023 at 10:48 AM, Akame said:

Yup, though the current augs, from what I have heard and seen are very subpar, aka not OP like some other augment releases that happen. Half of the spenders I know are not spending on this and are freelancing to island 3 like I am.

Well at least you get a second option of playing through some of it. And if you were to buy through the whole thing, you wouldnt need to spend 100 million tankoins like you would in the fund.

Also we should know by now that if an item is OP, sooner or later its gonna get nerfed (likely to the ground after plenty of people have gotten it). So the OPness of the items shouldn't be a factor here.

[Akame 4,577]

On 12/31/2023 at 8:11 PM, PirateSpider said:

So the OPness of the items shouldn't be a factor here.

Many people have said they are not spending because the items are lame.

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 1/1/2024 at 5:46 AM, Akame said:

Many people have said they are not spending because the items are lame.

Ok? That's really just their opinion that "the items are lame" 

Still doesn't take away from the fact that this mini game already has better rewards than what the fund would have given us.

[Jeers4U 665]

I think calling it a 'trap' is very apropos.

[xXx_ALPHA-BEAST_xXx 291]

any youtuber completed snow trap?

[Akame 4,577]

On 1/1/2024 at 5:08 PM, PirateSpider said:

Ok? That's really just their opinion that "the items are lame" 

Still doesn't take away from the fact that this mini game already has better rewards than what the fund would have given us.

There are literally content creators and more that have tried the augments and have blatantly said they are mid and not worth using even as alternatives. Guess if you're a new player with no augments, fair enough you get something. Will it make a difference? Likely not at all.

The only fact of advice given is to complete what you can and don't bother spending any extra if you're smart. Of course with the exception of maybe being like a step or two away from completing an island.

On 1/1/2024 at 5:40 PM, Jeers4U said:

I think calling it a 'trap' is very apropos.

Too real

On 1/1/2024 at 5:57 PM, xXx_ALPHA-BEAST_xXx said:

any youtuber completed snow trap?

Unsure how you have not seen any info on them.

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 1/1/2024 at 2:36 PM, Akame said:

There are literally content creators and more that have tried the augments and have blatantly said they are mid and not worth using even as alternatives. Guess if you're a new player with no augments, fair enough you get something. Will it make a difference? Likely not at all.

Guess some people have grown way too used to an era where OP items like pulsar, helios, crisis, assault magazine, etc being everywhere are the norm. And as a result, they have grown much more entitled.

Just a few years ago (like 4-5), we didn't have crap like status augments, hybrid augments, crisis. Yes, things were easier back then, but players were also more reasonably grateful back then. Still, stunts like the previous 2 funds wouldnt fly by back then.

Also what makes you so sure the fund gave out better rewards than this minigame?

[Jeers4U 665]

On 1/1/2024 at 10:37 PM, PirateSpider said:

Yes, things were easier back then, but players were also more reasonably grateful back then. Still, stunts like the previous 2 funds wouldnt fly by back then.

 

I think rewards--in general--were greater back then.

Not sure it's entitlement though, as a lot of players feel they are getting less reward for the same gaming--especially if their favorite turret/hull/aug/drone/etc has just been nerfed. And they aren't wrong for feeling this way. Feeling grateful at the perception of being screwed wears off quickly.

But it is what it is.

 

Put a frog in boiling water and it will jump out of the pot.

Put a frog in cool water and slowly increase the temperature to boiling and the frog will die.

Edited January 2, 2024 by Jeers4U
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[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 1/1/2024 at 8:01 PM, Jeers4U said:

think rewards--in general--were greater back then.

The game was better back then. Sure augments currently are one main cause of why the game has gone downhill. But back then, they were much more balanced and and unique. And then came all the status, pulsar, and hybrid augments that gave them the sour reputation they have today.

On 1/1/2024 at 8:01 PM, Jeers4U said:

Not sure it's entitlement though, as a lot of players feel they are getting less reward for the same gaming--especially if their favorite turret/hull/aug/drone/etc has just been nerfed. And they aren't wrong for feeling this way. Feeling grateful at the perception of being screwed wears off quickly.

Is this mini game perfect? No. 

But I'd much rather spend my money on this mini game than the last 2 funds we've had.

And just to reminder to those who'll say:

"Well why don't you just participate in the mini game if you think its so good?"

Only reason I'm not participating in the mini game is because I'm not a fan of the items it offers.

[Akame 4,577]

On 1/2/2024 at 5:51 AM, PirateSpider said:

 

Only reason I'm not participating in the mini game is because I'm not a fan of the items it offers.

Literally what I said. The items it offers, are even subpar for the casual players. You can still potentially make it to checkpoint 3 at least from the free set of gingerbread rewards unless you get super unlucky.

On 1/2/2024 at 4:01 AM, Jeers4U said:

I think rewards--in general--were greater back then.

Not sure it's entitlement though, as a lot of players feel they are getting less reward for the same gaming--especially if their favorite turret/hull/aug/drone/etc has just been nerfed. And they aren't wrong for feeling this way. Feeling grateful at the perception of being screwed wears off quickly.

But it is what it is.

 

Put a frog in boiling water and it will jump out of the pot.

Put a frog in cool water and slowly increase the temperature to boiling and the frog will die.

Yup, especially with the current epic key (UC) return etc, some players now even say, 'what's the point, I'm only gonna get 100 mines x3'. Now you have to grind a whole events worth to potentially get 25K crystals for the average endgame player. It is that bad for the non-spenders. And for the spenders, they gotta keep buying the elite passes and battle passes to get a decent set on average. 

Players end up using a whole lot more for an even more smaller chance of getting a great item. Would have been funny to see a vacuum gauss augment in this event. An adaptive gauss would have been even marginally creative. But the creativity has been benched temporarily it seems.

The latest challenge accepted also nerfed 30 reg keys to 15 keys for top 1000 stars. Like it still remains incentive to play, but that's a harsh change still, not like regs are broken anyways. To add insult to average injury, they placed some rare keys for top 300, pushing the 30 epic keys for top 100 players. Force more people to compete to grind to get those. At the end of the day, majority of them are still using more than gaining always. The endgame tax continues to rise.

[Photophosphorylation 16]

I am really wondering why they chenged prizes of minigame: we no longer see tankcoins, that were very nice for f2p.

They also changed battle pass in last few days: For gold tier lvl 59 you got 6 weekly conts (with tankcoins in it, so 48 tcs; it's not a lot but in 1 year you get 24 x 48 = 1152 tcs, which is not bad). And now you get 5 weeklies and not tcs inside. Looks familiar? Sure it does, it's tanki lol.

We can talk about elite pass, speecial missions prizes and much more, but everybody knows how this happened.

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 1/2/2024 at 1:15 AM, Akame said:

Literally what I said. The items it offers, are even subpar for the casual players.

Then you should've said this:

"I don't feel they're worth grinding, so I'm not gonna participate".

Could've easily avoided this catastrophic argument.

On 1/2/2024 at 1:15 AM, Akame said:

Yup, especially with the current epic key (UC) return etc, some players now even say, 'what's the point, I'm only gonna get 100 mines x3'. Now you have to grind a whole events worth to potentially get 25K crystals for the average endgame player. It is that bad for the non-spenders. And for the spenders, they gotta keep buying the elite passes and battle passes to get a decent set on average. 

Players end up using a whole lot more for an even more smaller chance of getting a great item. Would have been funny to see a vacuum gauss augment in this event. An adaptive gauss would have been even marginally creative. But the creativity has been benched temporarily it seems.

The latest challenge accepted also nerfed 30 reg keys to 15 keys for top 1000 stars. Like it still remains incentive to play, but that's a harsh change still, not like regs are broken anyways. To add insult to average injury, they placed some rare keys for top 300, pushing the 30 epic keys for top 100 players. Force more people to compete to grind to get those. At the end of the day, majority of them are still using more than gaining always. The endgame tax continues to rise.

Sounds like the devs are getting more greedy yet or they lied about "having millions of dollars" in the interview.

On 1/2/2024 at 4:29 AM, Photophosphorylation said:

I am really wondering why they chenged prizes of minigame: we no longer see tankcoins, that were very nice for f2p.

So you don't get tankoins from the mini game anymore?

If that's true, that changes my stance on things.

[Akame 4,577]

On 1/2/2024 at 3:37 PM, PirateSpider said:

 

So you don't get tankoins from the mini game anymore?

If that's true, that changes my stance on things.

Yeah, I forgot to mention this, though they added reg and epic keys instead. Even though they added 100 tk on regs as a legendary reward, it's not that great, especially when next modifications cost TK now regardless.
Ofc they may change up other rewards for other events, but the current one has no tk rewarding.

 

On 1/2/2024 at 12:29 PM, Photophosphorylation said:

but everybody knows how this happened.

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[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 1/2/2024 at 10:52 AM, Akame said:

Yeah, I forgot to mention this, though they added reg and epic keys instead. Even though they added 100 tk on regs as a legendary reward, it's not that great, especially when next modifications cost TK now regardless.
Ofc they may change up other rewards for other events, but the current one has no tk rewarding.

Welp, my stance on the minigame went from being moderately better than the fund to possibly moderately worse than the fund.

[Photophosphorylation 16]

On 1/2/2024 at 7:52 PM, Akame said:

Yeah, I forgot to mention this, though they added reg and epic keys instead. Even though they added 100 tk on regs as a legendary reward, it's not that great, especially when next modifications cost TK now regardless.
Ofc they may change up other rewards for other events, but the current one has no tk rewarding.

I got like 2 times 100tcs in last weekend and it's super funny I got actually more useful stuff from normal conts then from ultra which suck already!

[DMR 675]

Ain't no one going to complaint about the fact that to bust 3 moves (30 gingerbreads, because each moves requires 10 gingerbreads), it requires 900k crystals? Isn't that anormal and scammy? @Opex-RahReally disappointed and I thought this whole process was an experiment, disgusting conversion rate, are you out of your mind?

Edited January 3, 2024 by Soothing

[Biome 166]

On 1/3/2024 at 2:23 PM, Soothing said:

Ain't no one going to complaint about the fact that to bust 3 moves (30 gingerbreads, because each moves requires 10 gingerbreads), it requires 900k crystals? Isn't that anormal and scammy? @Opex-RahReally disappointed and I thought this whole process was an experiment, disgusting conversion rate, are you out of your mind?

First if you really needed to get items just complete your missions. And if you are done and are around Island 3 or something then you could choose if you want to move on. Its their offer and your choice. No one is forcing your to make that choice as to progress. Additionally you don't walk into a place demanding people lowewr prices. Are you in touch with reality? Do you think people don't need money for a living. The developers are already very generous to allow people to get so many containers without even spending.  And if you really needed the next islands, then spend some money.

 

Second, like I have mentioned before, its the same deal; their offer, your choice. No one was forcing you to convert your containers and the developers told you beforehand how this would all work. If you didn't like the update then you would use common sense and open your containers. The developers didnt tell you 5 minutes prior to update, they told you way beforehand that if you wanted to, open your containers.

 

Third, you keep saying the developers are out of the mind. This is total disinformation. In contrast, the developers are doing what is best for the game. If you are bad at the game, don't blame and say the same mean words to the developers.

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

Just played Arms Race like normal. 
EDIT: The game is literally unplayable. Getting disconnected 1-2 minutes after entering a match

Edited January 5, 2024 by Kimura

[KILL_BILL_CHAUHAN 2,505]

Checkpoint 3 at which rank?

 

[DMR 675]

On 1/4/2024 at 11:33 PM, Biome said:

First if you really needed to get items just complete your missions. And if you are done and are around Island 3 or something then you could choose if you want to move on. Its their offer and your choice. No one is forcing your to make that choice as to progress. Additionally you don't walk into a place demanding people lowewr prices. Are you in touch with reality? Do you think people don't need money for a living. The developers are already very generous to allow people to get so many containers without even spending.  And if you really needed the next islands, then spend some money.

 

Second, like I have mentioned before, its the same deal; their offer, your choice. No one was forcing you to convert your containers and the developers told you beforehand how this would all work. If you didn't like the update then you would use common sense and open your containers. The developers didnt tell you 5 minutes prior to update, they told you way beforehand that if you wanted to, open your containers.

 

Third, you keep saying the developers are out of the mind. This is total disinformation. In contrast, the developers are doing what is best for the game. If you are bad at the game, don't blame and say the same mean words to the developers.

Alright big buyer who would donate into the game whatever the prices, if you want to bust 3 moves for 900k crystals, it's your choice, but it's senseless as your speech, makes no sense at all what you're telling me and my acc is better than yours, and even without donating, so skills issue. At this point, this game has made you lost your way to judge the price of items. Seriously, who's going to spent 900k crystals for 3 moves and Hazel saids this whole thing was an experiment and it won't repeat again. 

Edited January 5, 2024 by Soothing

[SporkZilla 1,775]

On 1/5/2024 at 1:46 PM, Soothing said:

who's going to spent 900k crystals for 3 moves

I'm not a big buyer or whatever, just someone that has been playing for few years and has a few million crystals saved up because there isn't anything left in my garage that I want to spend them on (there are some hulls and turrets and drones that I am never going to use)

If I really wanted something from this mini-game (I don't. I don't use gauss and I can't see point of IC turrets without IC hulls), then spending those crystals to get to another checkpoint would be something I would consider

There are lots of high hour players sitting on millions of crystals, and they are not all buyers

I don't 3 moves for 900k crystals is bad, unlike the lack of tankoins in the mini-game unless you are lucky with containers and fewer epic keys for f2p from special missions and nearly every update since the end of July last year etc.

[DMR 675]

On 1/5/2024 at 10:26 AM, SporkZilla said:

I'm not a big buyer or whatever, just someone that has been playing for few years and has a few million crystals saved up because there isn't anything left in my garage that I want to spend them on (there are some hulls and turrets and drones that I am never going to use)

If I really wanted something from this mini-game (I don't. I don't use gauss and I can't see point of IC turrets without IC hulls), then spending those crystals to get to another checkpoint would be something I would consider

There are lots of high hour players sitting on millions of crystals, and they are not all buyers

I don't 3 moves for 900k crystals is bad, unlike the lack of tankoins in the mini-game unless you are lucky with containers and fewer epic keys for f2p from special missions and nearly every update since the end of July last year etc.

Hmm, but 900k for 3 moves and one checkpoint has 18 moves and consider the fact that there might throw you back (-5 moves), this conversation rate isn't good. Your point is right to save up crystals and I only have the armadillo left to upgrade (41% out of 50%). 

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 1/5/2024 at 12:10 PM, Soothing said:

Hmm, but 900k for 3 moves and one checkpoint has 18 moves and consider the fact that there might throw you back (-5 moves), 

Also consider the fact that any random purchase of gingerbread could be the difference between you getting rewards and not getting it. 

[Akame 4,577]

Just gonna add this here, a pic from Headway, a goldhunting player.

He grinded so many golds, got a fair set of gingerbread golds too. Made it a fair bit far with a lot of effort. He did not spend on any bundles etc.

Commendable effort for getting to where he has. Naturally this would not be doable for any f2p's that hardly play or play the minimum.

 

As for prices, they are what they are, a bit high but those who want to spend, will spend.

I personally am guaranteed to reach checkpoint 3 now within 8 moves and that is where I will stop, Glad that I will not need to spend anything at all for this. Pretty much some small set of freebies, can't complain tbh.

 

The main thing about this event is that you can see which spots can knock you back showing you a better indicator than the Halloween one which I did not like at all and got very unlucky with. Did not make it to checkpoint 3 there.

[WieLKo-PoLski 318]

Tankoins? Where? I don't see any Tankoins obtainable from this Mini-Game.