valid Bots should not be allowed to become juggernaut

[Ballista524 9]

Bots shouldn't be juggernauts because their AI isn't smart enough to play the mode properly. They just run into mid and get dogpiled. The winning team is the one that gets lucky enough to not have bots as its juggernauts.

[Maf 32,300]

Valid

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

On 11/5/2024 at 11:38 PM, Ballista524 said:

their AI isn't smart enough to play the mode properly.

you know what their AI isn't smart enough for too? Literally everything!
it's underdeveloped pointless feature nobody asked that just ruins the gameplay for everyone and their grandma, especially after the score nerf so now they don't even give anything by being killed we basically need new word for "Pointless" to describe bots in this game. 

All JGRs should be bots for that reason and your suggestion is very very bad. 

[Maf 32,300]

On 11/6/2024 at 11:02 AM, Hypersomnia said:

it's underdeveloped pointless feature nobody asked

I agree that nobody asked for them, but not that it's useless or underdeveloped. For a bunch of bots developed by an indie company, I'm actually impressed by how capable they are. As for their purpose, the game doesn't have enough players to fill battles fast enough without increasing rank brackets, so it's better for player retention to have battles filled with useless bots, rather than battle queues taking too long, or low ranks being constantly forced to face Legends.

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

On 11/6/2024 at 3:29 PM, Maf said:

but not that it's useless or underdeveloped.

ohh the Tanki Mod's agenda to keep me down.... damn being me is hard...

they weren't useless before the "nerf" since at least you can get some score out of it. Oh no you got extra 500 score for basically free and now instead of taking you 800+ hours to get phoenix now you'll only need 700+ with best case scenario. It really did not matter if people got 2000 score with bots in a match. The phoenix excuse im seeing is just stupid because this is not motivating me to grind that at all . And who cares if contract or a score mission gets finished 1 battle shorter?

 

Yes they are underdeveloped. I do not care what type of game this is or how impressive of a feat it is. The bots now are literally useless filler that does MORE HARM than good by pushing and doing all the other nonsense which just makes them annoying. They dont affect the match in a positive way at all now even with major amount of copium. 

 

ON TOP OF THAT if you spend 5 seconds in the general chat you'll see both new and old players say very naughty naughty words towards bots. So the player base besides select few is not a fan of bots even when they were arguably somewhat useful.

On 11/6/2024 at 3:29 PM, Maf said:

the game doesn't have enough players to fill battles fast enough without increasing rank brackets

well im (legend 170+) now getting literal MASTER SERGEANTS at times in my battles so i'd like to question the rank bracket decrease. Also like I said after the bot changes the bot rank decrease is pointless because the low ranks now progress at beyond turtle speed by playing with bots but not getting the benefits of slow progress you'd usually get due to them not giving any score basically.

 

On 11/6/2024 at 3:29 PM, Maf said:

so it's better for player retention

long term? no. If the player is playing with bots he might aswell stay at the same level for eternity. that does not give player dopamine. and no dopamine = no player.

Them splitting Legends and maybe Generalissimos into a separate bracket for MM alone would fix half of the problem without ruining any progression.

Edited November 6, 2024 by Hypersomnia

[Maf 32,300]

On 11/6/2024 at 8:33 PM, Hypersomnia said:

well im (legend 170+) now getting literal MASTER SERGEANTS at times in my battles so i'd like to question the rank bracket decrease

In that case I got no clue what's going on... 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 11/6/2024 at 12:33 PM, Hypersomnia said:

well im (legend 170+) now getting literal MASTER SERGEANTS at times in my battles so i'd like to question the rank bracket decrease.

Screenshot? Where are you getting master sergeants in your lobbies? In the event modes?

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

On 11/7/2024 at 3:49 AM, TheCongoSpider said:

Screenshot? Where are you getting master sergeants in your lobbies? In the event modes?

i get only legend battles 99% of the time then randomly get WOs and 1k gs ranks for no reason in both event and non event modes

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 11/7/2024 at 1:20 AM, Hypersomnia said:

 and non event modes

Do you have a screenshot for that (normal MM)?

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

On 11/7/2024 at 11:03 AM, TheCongoSpider said:

Do you have a screenshot for that (normal MM)?

in the entire history of the game i took like 20 tanki screenshots. no i do not lol

i just laughed at this situation once then screenshotted it and then did not care at all next time it happened.

hell just play MM yourself bruh

Edited November 7, 2024 by Hypersomnia

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 11/7/2024 at 6:18 AM, Hypersomnia said:

hell just play MM yourself bruh

I do and have never noticed any players under Marshal since some time ago when they pushed bots to players up to General. The only time I saw someone below Marshal was in September when they pushed bots up to Legend. There was a Colonel player but he said that he was in a group with the Marshal (eligible) that was in the battle. 

If you're going to make the claim that bots don't help the rank spread by stating you still find very low rank players in your lobby, you can at least supply proof. Event modes are not proof as they have no bots and are susceptible to the same large rank spreads as before. 

[x_Sorinel_x 552]

On 11/6/2024 at 3:29 PM, Maf said:

As for their purpose, the game doesn't have enough players to fill battles fast enough without increasing rank brackets, so it's better for player retention to have battles filled with useless bots, rather than battle queues taking too long, or low ranks being constantly forced to face Legends.

When I first read that we will have bots, I thought they will come during battles. Not at the start. Like; I'm in a CTF battle, we got the flag. Enemy team starts to leave, and bots join. This way, battle ends very fast.

Don't like what is now. At the start of a battle, both teams have crap bots. Bots should join during battles, not at start.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 11/7/2024 at 12:56 PM, x_Sorinel_x said:

Bots should join during battles, not at start.

In order for a battle to start, it needs players. 

[Positive 1,137]

On 11/7/2024 at 5:56 PM, x_Sorinel_x said:

When I first read that we will have bots, I thought they will come during battles. Not at the start. Like; I'm in a CTF battle, we got the flag. Enemy team starts to leave, and bots join. This way, battle ends very fast.

On 11/7/2024 at 6:15 PM, TheCongoSpider said:

In order for a battle to start, it needs players. 

Yes, and beside that, bots won't compensate for the losing team, as they are significantly weaker than real players at this moment. The team will just continue to lose.

 

 

[x_Sorinel_x 552]

On 11/7/2024 at 7:15 PM, TheCongoSpider said:

In order for a battle to start, it needs players. 

Well, I can wait for a battle to start in more than 5-10 minutes. Why should a battle start in 5 seconds full of bots ?

Edited November 8, 2024 by Shot
Kindly refrain from using inappropriate words.

[x_Sorinel_x 552]

On 11/7/2024 at 7:49 PM, Positive said:

Yes, and beside that, bots won't compensate for the losing team, as they are significantly weaker than real players at this moment. The team will just continue to lose.

 

 

Yeah, and battle will finish fast and I can join another. And, guess what... The real players are weaker to. Or real players will join the loossseeer team for 10-15 seconds and leave; if they are spawn killed. Same thing.

Edited November 8, 2024 by x_Sorinel_x

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 11/8/2024 at 2:36 AM, x_Sorinel_x said:

Well, I can wait for a battle to start in more than 5-10 minutes. 

You can. The majority of the playerbase won't.