valid servers for middle East

[Millionaire 45]

as the title says we need a new server for the middle east. our ping used to be like 50 or less few years ago like in 2020-2022, now we’re stuck with 250-300 and it’s unplayable it made some of us to quit the game. meanwhile EU players chilling with 30-50 ping, you guys know how many arabs/middle east players there are, there is a whole community of arabs and middle east players in this game who wants a better ping, and please don't suggest using vpn we're not paying to play this game, also some vpns could get our accounts blocked so it's not a safe option, even in esports our ping is 400-500+ most of the time while EU players are getting 50-70 this is not fair for us that's a easy win for them.
we’ve been playing this game since the release day, and it’s like we’re still being ignored no server, no proper support, no language for us, this needs to change.

[NikmanGT 4,362]

Valid

There is no point in declining the Idea when it actually benefits a whole community. I used to face 150+ ping as well for the past 2 years, so I know the frustration.

We'll forward the Idea, but it's up to the Devs to consider, as setting up servers costs a huge amount of resources and time.

[Millionaire 45]

On 1/17/2025 at 1:09 AM, NikmanGT said:

Valid

There is no point in declining the Idea when it actually benefits a whole community. I used to face 150+ ping as well for the past 2 years, so I know the frustration.

We'll forward the Idea, but it's up to the Devs to consider, as setting up servers costs a huge amount of resources and time.

thank you for forwarding it, yah its so bad to play on high ping i hope they agree to make it happen we really need this )

[Son_Goku 514]

You know, for us low ping players it's just as frustrating to play against someone who has a high ping. I also don't think the server infrastructure has changed since 2020-2022. Currently, due to DDoS attacks and all that, there are some measures in place to counter them that result in everyone having a higher ping, that is probably the issue you're facing. It will need some time until they find a proper way of solving this problem, unfortunately.

But it would obviously be a great thing to have regional servers, for all parties involved. Problem here is, that it would likely not be possible to set it up in a way that the middle east servers could interact with the EU ones, meaning you couldn't see battles nor players from the EU servers. The devs have to study whether there would be enough players to make such servers worth it, since they're not cheap to run. The brazilian servers had to shut down a while ago for example, since their player count was way too low.

I also know lots of players from the middle east, and none of them has a 250+ ping.

Edited January 16 by Son_Goku

[VORTEC 10]

My Ping used to be solid 50 back in 2021 - 2022, now it’s over 150. It’s almost impossible to play at this point with that high ping. We’ve been playing for years and supporting this game, but it feels like we’re being ignored. A Middle East server is long overdue, and it would make a huge difference for so many players here, i hope the devs agree to make new server for us.

[Rift 12]

I’m experiencing high ping, around 230ms, which makes XP/BP and esports unplayable. Adding Middle Eastern servers would greatly improve the gaming experience.

[xASDKSAx 0]

I agree with this matter, we want a server for us in the Middle East. Recently, I have not been able to enter the game due to high ping, and sometimes I am kicked out of the match due to ping. This is frustrating. I hope that the game developers will add a server for us for the Middle East.

[mo3s 8]

Yes other European players play on low ping why middle east didn't have a server 

[Zen1 140]

Middle East servers would definitely be a great step, mentioning that almost 30% of players are from the Middle East 

[DOS 12]

I hope they listen to us Arabs, because we constitute a large percentage of this game and we are considered among the first players in this game. Creating our own servers would be a good thing, if the developers do not want to lose us.

[Wry 93]

It is baffling to me that the devs after all these years did not add ME servers nor Arabic language to the game.

[Maf 32,300]

On 1/17/2025 at 11:25 AM, Wry said:

It is baffling to me that the devs after all these years did not add ME servers nor Arabic language to the game.

Seems like it's a lot more complicated than just adding servers and communities to wherever there's a lot of players. For example, I believe that the location of servers affects the laws that the game needs to follow, and the Middle East is infamous for having heavily censored internet. Though I'm not an expert on this, so it's just speculation on my part.

On 1/17/2025 at 8:54 AM, Zen1 said:

almost 30% of players are from the Middle East 

Where'd you get this from?

Edited January 17 by Maf

[Venerable 2,967]

as a pseudo-arab myself, I agree with this idea

[Wry 93]

On 1/17/2025 at 10:58 AM, Maf said:

Seems like it's a lot more complicated than just adding servers and communities to wherever there's a lot of players. For example, I believe that the location of servers affects the laws that the game needs to follow, and the Middle East is infamous for having heavily sensored internet. Though I'm not an expert on this, so it's just speculation on my part.

You downgrading the importance of adding servers and a language to the game to support an already existing community and let it thrive more by talking about speculation that has no grounds. Why adding other languages and servers such as Japanese, Brazilian, Polish and Germany, but When it comes to ME and Arabic language which they already occupy a good portion of the player base, suddenly there is a problem and speculation. Many famous game titles and companies around the globe have ME servers and Arabic language supported, why would Tanki be an exception?

Tanki is clearly suffering from low player base count, adding servers and Arabic language will only help the game to grow.

Edited January 17 by Wry

[krokorok 836]

Doubtful about that 30% population statement, that's definitely a gross overestimation.
Dunno why Arabic isnt in the game, it seems logical to add this language option. As for the servers, I dont see that happening, even if what Maf said is true about the legality of the game in ME/Arabic Countries, I think it would still be a long shot simply because of where this game is heading. They already killed of Brazilian servers long ago, along with what used to be LATAM playerbase, and giving the trends, I think they dont have the resources to really do anything. Like they are not even doing the bare minimum of advertising the game since MIniclip's death in 2022 and it feels like they can barely keep this monstrosity alive. IN my eyes a game that is in healthy state should have at least some sort of advertisement running on, it does not need to have bots in regular high rank level gameplay and does not need to keep nerfing its reward systems constantly to the ground for f2p.

Edited January 17 by krokorok

[Maf 32,300]

On 1/17/2025 at 12:23 PM, Wry said:

Why adding other languages and servers such as Japanese, Brazilian, Polish and Germany, but When it comes to ME and Arabic language which they already occupy a good portion of the player base, suddenly there is a problem and speculation.

That's exactly what I was thinking about when I wrote my reply. For whatever reason, adding languages and locales isn't driven by existing player counts in those communities. Why the Japanese, Iranian and Brazilian locales got added is still a mystery to me, but it implies that MENA players being (allegedly) high in number doesn't mean that adding local servers in the area is a no-brainer decision for devs. I guess it's influenced by a number of other factors as well.

Edited January 17 by Maf

[Wry 93]

On 1/17/2025 at 12:53 PM, Maf said:

but it implies that MENA players being (allegedly) high in number doesn't mean that adding local servers in the area is a no-brainer decision for devs. I guess it's influenced by a number of other factors as well.

We can't just throw random vague stuff and words in there and say that they are the reason in why the game does not have ME servers or Arabic language. If the player base count is not the deciding factor then what factors are more important than it? ME servers and the Arabic language are no different than other languages and servers in terms of implementation, there is no discrimination in there. The idea of Tanki not supporting Arabic language and ME servers should not be the reason of thinking that it is the Arabic's fault or ME servers' fault, it simply means that Tanki staff did not care enough.

I think the Arabic language should have been implemented years ago before some existing languages right now.

Edited January 17 by Wry

[Maf 32,300]

On 1/17/2025 at 2:26 PM, Wry said:

then what factors are more important than it?

No clue man
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

On a side note, the idea is to create dedicated servers for the Middle East, right? But is as simple as you guys think? Creating a dedicated forum/wiki and translating the game into Arabic is one thing (again, I have no clue why they haven't already done it), but building a dedicated server hub sounds far more complicated.

Do we even know if Tanki uses a global server network? As far as I know, the servers were always in a single hub. Many years ago they were moved to the Netherlands, and regardless of whether they're still there now, I think they've always been together in one spot.

[Son_Goku 514]

On 1/17/2025 at 9:23 AM, Wry said:

Why adding other languages and servers such as Japanese, Brazilian, Polish and Germany, but When it comes to ME and Arabic language which they already occupy a good portion of the player base, suddenly there is a problem and speculation.

German (which has been there since the start of the project by the way), as well as Brazilian, are part of the game because Alternativa (the owners of Tanki) literally has people who work for them who know those languages, who can then take care of the corresponding communities. I'm not sure about Polish and Japanese, but Japanese seems to be fairly new anyway. So who knows, maybe they're starting to add more languages now, including Arabic eventually.

 

On 1/17/2025 at 9:23 AM, Wry said:

Many famous game titles and companies around the globe have ME servers and Arabic language supported, why would Tanki be an exception?

Because it is simply not profitable for Tanki, due to the lack of players. Look what happened to the brazilian servers, they were literally shut down because they were not self sustaining anymore. They knew that the last few remaining brazilian players would be facing massive ping problems, but not even that was enough for them to keep those servers alive.

You guys seem to forget that the developers have the numbers of how many players are logging in from where in the world, and they are obviously also aware of the current problems with the connection. And as of now at least, those numbers don't seem to be high enough to give them a reason to change the whole server infrastructure. All of this is not as easy as you may think.

 

On 1/17/2025 at 9:23 AM, Wry said:

Tanki is clearly suffering from low player base count, adding servers and Arabic language will only help the game to grow.

Towards the end of 2022, when Tanki made it impossible for us to view the current player count, it was peaking at around 8000 players online, half of those in battles, and one can only assume that those numbers got lower by now. If you split the servers in two, those could not communicate together, which means that you would only be splitting the current playerbase in two. The result? Two dead servers.

As I said, the server location has not changed since 2020-2022 as OP stated. The current problems EVERYONE is having are due to necessary counter-DDoS measures (the root cause of all of this is the war you have probably heard of by now). It is a big deal for the developers to figure this out, but once they have, everyone's connection should be back to normal.

Look, I am all for servers all around the globe; not only the middle east, but also NA, SA, even Oceania, because I know how much it sucks to have a high ping myself, from other games. But with all of those, the problem is also that they are simply not profitable for Alternativa.

Edited January 17 by Son_Goku

[Millionaire 45]

On 1/17/2025 at 5:39 PM, Son_Goku said:

German (which has been there since the start of the project by the way), as well as Brazilian, are part of the game because Alternativa (the owners of Tanki) literally has people who work for them who know those languages, who can then take care of the corresponding communities. I'm not sure about Polish and Japanese, but Japanese seems to be fairly new anyway. So who knows, maybe they're starting to add more languages now, including Arabic eventually.

 

Because it is simply not profitable for Tanki, due to the lack of players. Look what happened to the brazilian servers, they were literally shut down because they were not self sustaining anymore. They knew that the last few remaining brazilian players would be facing massive ping problems, but not even that was enough for them to keep those servers alive.

You guys seem to forget that the developers have the numbers of how many players are logging in from where in the world, and they are obviously also aware of the current problems with the connection. And as of now at least, those numbers don't seem to be high enough to give them a reason to change the whole server infrastructure. All of this is not as easy as you may think.

 

Towards the end of 2022, when Tanki made it impossible for us to view the current player count, it was peaking at around 8000 players online, half of those in battles, and one can only assume that those numbers got lower by now. If you split the servers in two, those could not communicate together, which means that you would only be splitting the current playerbase in two. The result? Two dead servers.

As I said, the server location has not changed since 2020-2022 as OP stated. The current problems EVERYONE is having are due to necessary counter-DDoS measures (the root cause of all of this is the war you have probably heard of by now). It is a big deal for the developers to figure this out, but once they have, everyone's connection should be back to normal.

Look, I am all for servers all around the globe; not only the middle east, but also NA, SA, even Oceania, because I know how much it sucks to have a high ping myself, from other games. But with all of those, the problem is also that they are simply not profitable for Alternativa.

weren't you about to quit the game mr ChatGPT?
if you're not from ME then there's no point of psoting here, keep your thoughts and opinions to yourself we didn't asked for it.
look for another post to ruin not this one buddy we're not here to argue we're here to make a change in this game which i hope it's gonna happen 

Edited January 17 by Millionaire

[Son_Goku 514]

On 1/17/2025 at 6:13 PM, Millionaire said:

weren't you about to quit the game mr ChatGPT?
if you're not from ME then there's no point of psoting here, keep your thoughts and opinions to yourself we didn't asked for it.
look for another post to ruin not this one buddy we're not here to argue we're here to make a change in this game which i hope it's gonna happen 

That was not written with ChatGPT, and I am just telling you how things are. I've said many times already that I would want you to have your own server, because I know that high ping sucks, but currently it's simply not possible for the devs.

No need to be rude, a forum is there to discuss such topics.

Edited January 17 by Son_Goku

[Millionaire 45]

On 1/17/2025 at 8:19 PM, Son_Goku said:

That was not written with ChatGPT, and I am just telling you how things are. I've said many times already that I would want you to have your own server, because I know that high ping sucks, but currently it's simply not possible for the devs.

No need to be rude, a forum is there to discuss such topics.

 

I didn’t come up with this idea randomly or without giving it some thought. Hazel mentioned in both interviews with Taspens that they have a lot of money to develop the game, and he emphasized it both times. So, financially, they’re capable of doing it, they have the resources to improve the game, so they should. The idea we’re suggesting is genuinely good. Even if it’s not the easiest thing to implement, it’s absolutely worth it. The number of players in the Middle East isn’t small; it’s actually a significant player base. And it’s not just Arabs in the region, there’s Bahrain, Cyprus, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Palestine, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, the UAE, and Yemen. I personally have friends from almost all of these countries, and almost every single one of them struggles with bad ping, we're talking 150+ that's the best we're getting. in countries like Yemen and Oman and UAE they're getting 200-300 solid.

So what do you think they could do to help players in this region get a better ping? vpn is not always an option for us because most of them are banned in ME.

[Maf 32,300]

On 1/17/2025 at 9:37 PM, Millionaire said:

in countries like Yemen and Oman and UAE they're getting 200-300 solid.

UAE here. Around 150 ping on my end and the game is entirely playable. Sub-100 would be nice, but this isn't that big of a deal IMO.

[Millionaire 45]

On 1/17/2025 at 8:46 PM, Maf said:

UAE here. Around 150 ping on my end and the game is entirely playable. Sub-100 would be nice, but this isn't that big of a deal IMO.

try to play using crisis and lmk

[Son_Goku 514]

On 1/17/2025 at 6:37 PM, Millionaire said:

I didn’t come up with this idea randomly or without giving it some thought.

And I can almost guarantee you that the developers come up with such ideas themselves and will probably start working on them eventually. They know the current situation is problematic. They know that a competitive game needs regional servers, such as the ones you mentioned. They're not stupid.

But, the current focus regarding their servers is first handling the situation with the DDoS protection. Once they figure that out, your original ping, as well as everyone else's ping, will be restored to what it used to be, 100%, without the need of new servers. This problem with the DDoS attacks is holding them back in everything.

 

On 1/17/2025 at 6:37 PM, Millionaire said:

I personally have friends from almost all of these countries, and almost every single one of them struggles with bad ping, we're talking 150+ that's the best we're getting. in countries like Yemen and Oman and UAE they're getting 200-300 solid.

I also have friends from those regions - in particular Iraq and Palestine, and they get a ping of 50 (even I keep telling them I don't believe it). I know people from Pakistan as well, and their ping is lower than 100, usually 70-80. But that doesn't mean that I don't believe you, as I said, I know how much it sucks to have such a high ping. Even 100 sucks.

 

On 1/17/2025 at 6:37 PM, Millionaire said:

So what do you think they could do to help players in this region get a better ping? vpn is not always an option for us because most of them are banned in ME.

As soon as they find a fix for the DDoS situation, your ping will be back to normal. Then, after more technical fixes to the game, the game will be advertised again, and if there are a lot of new players coming in, the devs will surely study whether it makes sense to have servers in multiple locations.

As of now, as a player, all you can do is wait, sadly. I don't know what to do about VPNs in your region.