event Invite a friend

[Marcus 17,295]

 

https://tankionline.com/en/?p=50266

[Cleric 1,385]

I don't know who this project's product owner/manager is, but seriously? This is all you can come up with when you are wondering how to capture new customers? And you sincerely think this will actually work?

 

I can't wait to see how effective it will be .

Edited January 30 by Cleric

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On 1/30/2025 at 2:47 PM, Cleric said:

I don't know who this project's product owner/manager is, but seriously? This is all you can come up with when you are wondering how to capture new customers? And you sincerely think this will actually work?

 

I can't wait to see how effective it will be .

It is actually a great way how to either bring or invite players to the game. You can just ask your friends to go play cause you want the rewards from missions and after he try it. Psychologically there is a possible way he might stay in game and maybe he will enjoy it cause that person never tried to join the game before. Tho there might be other reasons why he might stay in the game but in general I would not really consider this as a bad way to get new players in the game.

I will give you an example. Reboot Rally in Fortnite. If you have a friend that wasn't active for quite some time you could have rally him back into the game and complete some missions and get some rewards as an motivation to do it. I have tried it and I brought some players back into Fortnite to just simply play with me. Most of them stayed for like a month after which is cool 

[Muscularity 160]

What could prevent players from creating a new account and completing the missions for their main account?

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

On 1/30/2025 at 8:56 PM, Pleasant said:

What could prevent players from creating a new account and completing the missions for their main account?

As history shows, nothing can prevent players from creating a new account and completing the missions for their main account.

Be my guest.

[Venerable 2,967]

pretty sure you anticipated abuse and pre-nerfed the rewards, stonks move

[Muscularity 160]

On 1/30/2025 at 11:12 AM, Opex-Rah said:

As history shows, nothing can prevent players from creating a new account and completing the missions for their main account.

Be my guest.

But how could this move benefits the Tanki Online Alternative Platform team of ''recruiting new players'' if let's say, 90% of players are just creating new accounts and completing the missions for their main one?

[Gabku 194]

I dont fully understand this..I get 7 missions in the second batch, each for 1 mission the new player I invited finishes, but what if I invite more than one player? Do I get as many sets of referral missions as many people I invite or is there just one? And if just one then which of the new players completed missions will count towards the 7 on my account? Or if I invite 2 people and one finished 3 missions and the other finishes 4, will I get all 7 of mine done? Kinda confusing...

[Dopamine 2,161]

On 1/30/2025 at 7:11 PM, Pleasant said:

But how could this move benefits the Tanki Online Alternative Platform team of ''recruiting new players'' if let's say, 90% of players are just creating new accounts and completing the missions for their main one?

Well, then it means 10% new players, not bad.
And if nothing else, tanki can use this to gather data and make adjustments on the go. There is hardly anything negative about the update, the rewards arent game-breaking, so it shouldnt cause issues economy-wise.

[Cleric 1,385]

On 1/31/2025 at 6:13 AM, Dopamine said:

Well, then it means 10% new players, not bad.
And if nothing else, tanki can use this to gather data and make adjustments on the go. There is hardly anything negative about the update, the rewards arent game-breaking, so it shouldnt cause issues economy-wise.

First of all, I don't know how you come up with 10% but that's not how math works.

Secondly, it means those "new players" won't pay for the game, since they are fake. All they do is add extra entries into the DB.

 

So if that happens, it is just a waste of time and cost for nothing from the company's perspective.

Edited January 31 by Cleric

[Cleric 1,385]

Also, I'm not sure which mod(s) does that. But apparently, multiple comments made before mine are getting removed for whatever ridiculous reason(s) they can come up with.

Edited January 31 by Cleric

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I believe that those rewards are a bit low considering how much pw2 players have of recourses, not enought to even combat mid-life, at least some augment of your choosen for each hull/turret on legendary, temporary module slots and old special supply that avoid using yourself supplies for a certain time, thats what we need, lets say a balanced welcome to new players, and for who invinted, maybe same rewards based on current ranking, or lower if alread at hight ranking with equips

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

On 1/31/2025 at 8:36 AM, Cleric said:

So if that happens, it is just a waste of time and cost for nothing from the company's perspective.

Getting "Leave the multibillion dollar company alone" vibes from this one.

[Cleric 1,385]

On 1/31/2025 at 5:15 PM, Opex-Rah said:

Getting "Leave the multibillion dollar company alone" vibes from this one.

Except you are not working for a multibillion-dollar company, not even close.

 

And don't forget to share some numbers on how "effective" this "invite a friend" thing is next month.

Can't wait to see how much you guys make from this scheme compared to the expenses. Let's be real, there will be many "new" account registrations of course. But how many of them will remain active after a month and how many of them are actually paying customers? That's the question.

Edited January 31 by Cleric

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On 1/31/2025 at 4:25 PM, Cleric said:

Can't wait to see how much you guys make from this scheme compared to the expenses.

And our expenses are...?

[Nuclear 126]

On 1/31/2025 at 12:25 PM, Cleric said:

Except you are not working for a multibillion-dollar company, not even close.

 

Don't forget to share some numbers on how "effective" this "invite a friend" thing is next month.

Can't wait to see how much you guys make from this scheme compared to the expenses.

What's your problem with this idea? You literally lose nothing, and if there is a chance of getting new players with this approach, its a win-win.

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

On 1/31/2025 at 4:46 PM, Cleric said:

Are you trying to play dumb or you really don't know how that works?

I am dumb and I don't know how it works. Please elaborate!

[xXx_ALPHA-BEAST_xXx 291]

bro developer fighting in chat where is my pop corn 

[Cleric 1,385]

On 1/31/2025 at 7:50 PM, Opex-Rah said:

I am dumb and I don't know how it works. Please elaborate!

Some examples.

Capex

1. Man-hours used for this feature. e.g. design, development, testing, planning, etc.

Opex

1. Expect of increase in service loading (at least for the duration of the event), do you need to scale up/horizontally?
   • If yes, what's the extra cost for the infra?
   • If not, is it possible that the higher service loading causes any service interruption? And what's the expected cost/loss of income if that happens?
2. Cost of the reward itself. How much do those loot boxes and rubies cost in real money? (what happens if some guys get what they want and decide they don't need to spend any more? And how likely that may happen?) 
3. On-going software maintenance and support. Again, man-hours for bug fixing (in fact, there is already one since the last update), customer support, etc.

 

I sure hope your business colleagues and PM have calculated all these before proceeding with this project. Though I would imagine you know a thing or two of these and are just playing dumb, but anyway...

Edited January 31 by Cleric

[Cleric 1,385]

On 1/31/2025 at 7:48 PM, Nuclear said:

What's your problem with this idea? You literally lose nothing, and if there is a chance of getting new players with this approach, its a win-win.

From a player's perspective, no I don't. Like you said, we lose nothing.

 

Just that, I doubt this event will reach the expectations. Let's be honest, will you invite anyone you know to join this game right now, given the current state of Tanki? And even more, persuade them to stay, or even start paying? I'm pretty sure my answer to both questions will be no. Now the thing is, how many would say "yes"?

[Tekken 374]

On 1/31/2025 at 12:50 PM, Opex-Rah said:

I am dumb and I don't know how it works. Please elaborate!

Are you guys working on Unity client? I have not heard about this for a while , I hope yes , sorry for random question 

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

On 1/31/2025 at 5:12 PM, Cleric said:

 

I was hoping you understood the field but it seems you are an amateur.

You couldn't possibly inquire about the 'results', knowing you need an NDA to learn any of that. At best, you would hope to learn how many players 'participated' in the event, which would tell you nothing about how many new players we got and whether that's what we expected from the event. But you went so far as to mock us that you'll state the conclusion by comparing these unlearnable results with our expenses.

That is why I got interested.

Either you know our expenses, which is impossible, or you can approximate our expenses, which is possible, or you are an amateur, obscuring your irrelevant opinion on the effectiveness of the event behind words that sound important, like 'business colleagues', 'expenses' 'extra entries into the DB' which are just a buzz. I hoped to learn your approximation and how you came to that number. I still hope you'll share it.

You are already being mocked asked by others about your opinion of why you care for the FREE event. Yet you keep pressing on with a serious face.

It's marvelous.

I'll state in advance that this event was a sound success, all the participants were commended and we will streamline it to fit into each quarter event plan. I give you my solemn word :D

[Cleric 1,385]

On 1/31/2025 at 8:50 PM, Opex-Rah said:

I'll state in advance that this event was a sound success, all the participants were commended and we will streamline it to fit into each quarter event plan. I give you my solemn word :D

You guys made this conclusion within 24 hrs the campaign launched? Seriously? Is it just you trying to win an argument online, or that's the consensus among the team for real? You didn't even have the chance to monitor how many of those new registrations will remain active for 1 month, 3 months, 6 months, 1 year, etc., and are recurring (paying) customers. Especially knowing that a certain number of existing players will just create new dummy accounts for the sake of the rewards, as you have mentioned in a separate comment. And you decided to declare it was a success right now? And yet, you called me an armature . I thought I was armature enough.

 

TBH, I find it hard to believe that there was indeed a conclusion being made right at this stage. I guess there are reasons why Tanki is STILL the only project being active in Alternativa after the company has been established for over a decade after all.

 

And regarding your "armature analysis", I wasn't aware you were expecting numbers and calculations. But even knowing that in advance, I'm not gonna give out any concrete calculations or final numbers.

• For one, it is your team's job, not mine.
• For two, you have the benefit of the doubt. You could call the entire calculation BS regardless of whether that is wrong or not (in terms of numbers, or the logic, it doesn't matter). And in the event that happens, which you just make it happen in a similar fashion, since there is no way I could (supposed to) know the actual numbers, with they being considered classified, there are only so many ways I can prove it otherwise.

 

 

So, we are done here. If you sincerely believe this event is a massive success right at this stage, well, good for you I guess.

Edited January 31 by Cleric

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

On 1/31/2025 at 7:00 PM, Cleric said:

Is it just you trying to win an argument online, or that's the consensus among the team for real?

Obviously, I am only trying to win an argument online, and I am failing spectacularly at that. However, I gave you my solemn word that this event is going to the event plan and will have a quarterly occurrence.

That might not be a fluke.

[POWER-OF-ONE 163]

On 1/31/2025 at 3:25 AM, Cleric said:

Except you are not working for a multibillion-dollar company, not even close.

I kinda guess he knows that.

 

On 1/31/2025 at 3:43 AM, Opex-Rah said:

And our expenses are...?

Not a clue to be honest, It's not something I concern myself with----BUT PLEASE ELABORATE.

 

On 1/31/2025 at 3:52 AM, xXx_ALPHA-BEAST_xXx said:

ro developer fighting in chat where is my pop corn

He's enticing players to speak up about this new addition to the game, (feed back and the likes) or you could replace enticing with "baiting". All the same to hazel, either way he wins and regardless how this update pans out trust me, HAZEL WINS. 

On 1/31/2025 at 4:25 AM, Cleric said:

From a player's perspective, no I don't. Like you said, we lose nothing

Are you sure about that.

From a players perspective (that would mine) we lose time, in-game resources and in some cases, the 10% club (buyers) CASH.  

This I would guess is also Hazel's perspective of this update. 

Like I said earlier, regardless of the outcome, Hazel (the multi billion dollar company-) WINS.

On 1/31/2025 at 4:50 AM, Opex-Rah said:

I was hoping you understood the field but it seems you are an amateur.

OOOOO that hurt. Glad I wasn't on the receiving end of that little dig.

Nice shot below the belt Hazel, you wearing loaded gloves or what.

On 1/31/2025 at 4:50 AM, Opex-Rah said:

You are already being mocked

That was as low as you can get, nice shot though.

Your gloves are definitely loaded.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm on the side of the player, but I think your anti-player protection module, along with your obvious legal hack (I'm in charge, what you gonna do about it you unimportant player module) is way above 50%. I'm gonna guess and say going on close to 99% reflects your position and dominance in any and all updates regarding the financial status of the game/company and acts as a defensive barrier against players comments, like I don't care what you say, we got buyers (conditioned to give us cash when we want it) in our pocket. 

On 1/31/2025 at 6:00 AM, Cleric said:

And you decided to declare it was a success right now?

Without reading anything else in this post I'm gonna guess he was being facetious.

Anyway I have to go, I have 10 accounts to work out who is friending and who is benefiting. Decisions, decisions. 

Edited January 31 by Vegas
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