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  1. 1. Community: You may not care, but we'll remind you how to turn hard work into trash with just one update.

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Congratulations. You've just done what even the most seasoned veterans of the community feared: you took a system where every trophy was the result of real, painstaking effort and, without any sentimentality, turned it into digital trash. Trophies, once symbols of achievement and perseverance, now look like collectible pumpkins from a promo kit for Watermelon Day — bright but completely useless. Everything that used to command respect now only evokes confusion and sarcastic laughter. Let's set the record straight right away: no, the trophies weren't "given out" — it would have been easier if they had simply been given away. They were taken and destroyed. Completely revamped. Devalued. The essence was cut out and replaced with an empty shell. To "smooth over" the consequences, players were given some compensation — a device called "Excelsior." On paper, it's an attempt at a replacement. In reality, it's a patch for a severed limb. A device that has nothing in common with the previous trophies, neither in terms of parameters, meaning, nor applicability. It's just an abstract offering. It's like giving a keychain with the logo of a car repair shop in response to a broken car. And it's already clear: this "scrap" is a temporary fix, either to be killed by a rebalance or quietly discarded in the next patch. This is not compensation. It's an insult. We are not the offended, not the complainers. We are the ones who built the game with you. The ones who spent hours and days going through all the stages, analyzing the mechanics, selecting builds, finding optimal combinations, learning, and winning. And now, everything we did has been reduced to zero. We were given a device that's useless, gives nothing, and has no historical or functional value. It is not connected to our past experience or our achieved results. Everything that used to matter — unique bonuses, time-tested devices, in-game pride — is now just a line in the change log. Without weight. Without respect. Without meaning.

What is especially disheartening is that you're not solving real problems. You're patching things that didn't ask for intervention. Balance? Still suffering from old mistakes. Metagame? Stagnant. Optimization? Well, you know. Content stagnation, slow fixes, lack of progress on key issues — all of this drags on year after year. But as soon as someone screams on stream, "Aaaah, the trophies are overpowered! I can't get them! Make it fair for everyone!" — the change roller starts running over the little that actually worked. First, Jagger got nerfed, then Sturm, and now you've come for the trophies. Instead of developing a complex, deeply structured achievement system, you decided to make everything "the same." Unequal conditions? Yes. But not in terms of effort — in terms of approach. The trophy used to be a mark: you achieved, you deserved, you invested. Now, it's just an in-game marker that says "was online." You didn’t simplify the system. You buried it. Now it's just a broken showcase of achievements with nothing behind it. And instead of pride, there's only disappointment. Trophies were an element of prestige. Their presence signaled that someone knew how to play, that they had gone through real trials. It was an internal currency of respect. Now, it’s just another loot box. Accessible, empty, and completely devalued.

If anyone still has a conscience, if there are people on the team who care about the players' contributions, reconsider the decision. This update is not about accessibility. It's about disrespect. It says plainly: your efforts mean nothing. You were given a toy — be happy. But we are not happy. We remember what we fought for. We see how what was built over the years is crumbling. And while you're catering to the cries of complainers and striving to simplify the game into tasteless mush, you're losing those who were with you from the very beginning. We understand the desire to make the game more accessible. That’s fine. But accessibility should not devalue the efforts of others. When the value of achievements is erased, the motivation to play disappears. The spirit of competition fades. The meaning of progress is lost. And with that, the respect for the developer who decided that the convenience of the complainers was more important than the honest labor of devoted players fades as well.

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On 4/13/2025 at 4:06 AM, Kaspersky said:

the result of real, painstaking effort

no.

On 4/13/2025 at 4:06 AM, Kaspersky said:

once symbols of achievement and perseverance

uhm... never??

 

On 4/13/2025 at 4:06 AM, Kaspersky said:

Everything that used to command respect

ok I can't read beyond this

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i read 1% of this yapping festival and it looks like peenix nerf complaint.

hazel said it himself that its the 'grinders' or should i say ABUSERS fault for getting phoenix nerfed. hate it or not hazel always called phoenix a 'status symbol' and not some OP equipment or even an augment. bring up any interview vlog whatever with hazel talking about phoenix. while he not just directly mentions it as a 'status symbol' he always clearly implies it. 

like i said earlier the so called phoenix grinders are just abusers of the system. ASL, JGR mode nerfs and Isida nerfs are DIRECTLY linked to the abuse. if i were a phoenix grinder or whatever i should be thankful they didn't just go 'haha rule 3.85 broken your account is now blocked' and instead are giving you a new augment for free.

and at the end of the day literally nobody forced you to play for phoenix. if youre ready to no life for 1000 hours for an augment you should do some research about augments and you'd realize they're getting changed constantly and phoenix changes were not something impossible. ?‍♂️

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Text wall of rambing aside, what on earth is that poll supposed to mean? What's the question???

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On 4/12/2025 at 11:36 PM, Kaspersky said:

What is especially disheartening is that you're not solving real problems.

This is one of "THE" biggest problems in the game.

On 4/12/2025 at 11:36 PM, Kaspersky said:

Trophies, once symbols of achievement and perseverance, now look like collectible pumpkins from a promo kit for Watermelon Day — bright but completely useless.

As for the phoenix (gotcha "AGAIN" for the zillionth time and we are so pleased you never, ever learn your lesson ) trophy augments. Like I care about that overhyped trash.

 The day some (most) players finally get that "lightbulb" realisation is the day the devs will have to take their complaints seriously, or shut the game down.

On 4/12/2025 at 11:36 PM, Kaspersky said:

When the value of achievements is erased, the motivation to play disappears.

Agree with this point.

 

On 4/12/2025 at 11:36 PM, Kaspersky said:

slow fixes, lack of progress on key issues — all of this drags on year after year.

Agree 100% with this 100% fact.

 

On 4/13/2025 at 7:45 AM, Hypersomnia said:

hazel said it himself that its the 'grinders' or should i say ABUSERS fault for getting phoenix nerfed.

I find that "statement" to be bull crap. How many players actually have one of these augments. I'm not sure how many players TO actually has but lets say it's 1000.000 now what % of that has this augment, maybe between 3/5%, is it enough to nerf it, very unlikely, so why "nerf" it.

You actually think hazel nerfs something because It's overpowered and players complain about it ??  he has other motives, but obviously will not say what they are.

On 4/13/2025 at 7:45 AM, Hypersomnia said:

like i said earlier the so called phoenix grinders are just abusers of the system

Let's not forget who made the system and why they do what they do.

As you know I hate augments, trophy or otherwise, but do not blame the players for being misled by hazel AGAIN.

On 4/13/2025 at 7:45 AM, Hypersomnia said:

i read 1% of this yapping festival and it looks like peenix nerf complaint

This of course is true and I agree with the sentiment behind it, BUT ONLY BECAUSE I HATE augments and not the players that spent time and effort achieving this MONUMENTAL target.

TO has declined exponentially (from a players perspective) over these last 3/4 years and it will continue to decline rapidly because of their greed.

I used to do the challenge on multiple accounts, I no longer do it on any account.

They said that the XP/CRY ratio was something they needed to address because players were ranking to quickly (something I have said for years) but now you are getting XP for completing missions and 1000XP for completing the advent calendar. Why not turn the XP into CRY instead. This would be more beneficial, especially to the low ranked players and those players who struggle to earn enough cry because they have ranked to quickly and have no means to strengthen their garage.

They could of course spend insane amounts of cash to catch up and compete;- cue hazel and his team to make this happen as often as possible.

Lets not forget that the mechanics of TO is what it is because they want it that way. Players concerns only get addressed "IF" it aligns with what THEY want. it has nothing to do with balance and players complaining and everything to do with getting your cash by any and all means possible, legit or otherwise.

TO will continue to decline because of their greed.

These are the facts and cannot be disputed by anyone.

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On 4/13/2025 at 1:37 PM, Maf said:

Text wall of rambing aside, what on earth is that poll supposed to mean? What's the question???

"THE CORRECTNESS OF THE DECISION"

we might need a "correctness of the poll" poll after this

 

also idk why I'm being so mean (is this mean??), but somehow this dissertation has triggered my inner troll. it's wrong on so many levels...

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means -> mean
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On 4/13/2025 at 5:57 AM, Venerable said:

no.

Well, I expect you to effortlessly get this device

 

On 4/13/2025 at 1:45 PM, Hypersomnia said:
like i said earlier the so called phoenix grinders are just abusers of the system. ASL, JGR mode nerfs and Isida nerfs are DIRECTLY linked to the abuse. if i were a phoenix grinder or whatever i should be thankful they didn't just go 'haha rule 3.85 broken your account is now blocked' and instead are giving you a new augment for free.

Tank Juggernaut, Assault can't be called abuse, at least until you become a Juggernaut a lot of time will pass, and Juggernaut itself is no longer a MM dominance machine. Well if healing Isis counts as abusing you..... Are you serious?

On 4/13/2025 at 4:21 PM, POWER-OF-ONE said:

This is one of "THE" biggest problems in the game.

Do you really think 30 players is the main problem in Tanks Online? Isn't the problem the new legendary units that are clearly superior to the regular ones?

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On 4/15/2025 at 8:00 AM, Tenobyte said:

 

On 4/13/2025 at 4:27 AM, Venerable said:

no.

Well, I expect you to effortlessly get this device

buddy i have no idea what you mean here

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On 4/15/2025 at 3:30 AM, Tenobyte said:
On 4/13/2025 at 10:21 AM, POWER-OF-ONE said:

This is one of "THE" biggest problems in the game.

Do you really think 30 players is the main problem in Tanks Online? Isn't the problem the new legendary units that are clearly superior to the regular ones?

?????? What are you going on about. I never said that 30 players is the main problem, nor did I infer that.

Read everything again and then respond accordingly. If your still having problems ask one of the adults on the forum to help you. If that still does not help, have a sweetie and chill, watch mine craft or something. 

If English is not your first language then blame the translator and bin it.

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