well with hunter reaching a speed of 9, no place for viking anymore with its wide frontal bumpers, we are not asking for wide tanks to hover over water, or big ugly once like that of dictator, hunter is the best for all tasks

Hey why just discussing twins has stopped :D All the other guns people continued making comments about, except twins, is it that desperate its gona be ?

I already turned that off, but it didn't solve the problem, its mostly because i count on laptops with low graphics and i play just when i have some rest during my endless work. otherwise i was to be a generalissimos long time ago

The screen is too much bright, The paints of faraway tanks and the details looking blurred, and there is no option to disable the new effects, although they are nice, but can't be used with laptops with low graphics

Really its unfair for wasp to be that costy and to be unlocked at a much higher rank than hornet ! and now it even became more hard to use guns with, and more difficult than before to handle, it isn't a tank at all, than being the battles' clown. RIP My wasp m3

This video shows all the new changes to the stats of hulls and turrets http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k_PhiCG9eE&feature=youtu.be

Thats true, a refund isn't good to the game, and ok lets assume its technically hard and can't even add an item refund option of 50% But why doing some mistakes: 1- The kits were on the lucky chance of some and were for the bad luck of some who already bought them using original prices. 2- Some turrets and hulls will dramatically change; not going with the game play style of that player who owns them,

XD It will shoot hearts and peace logos to players and spread flowers all over the rest of tanks :D Thats the point people, we need some harmless beetles

Give a guessing how much crystals you will need to microupgrade the m3 items to half the way? you think u will upgrade your rail and people with hornets or wasps will just wait for you to shoot them? lol everybody will have the MU fever, just try to give a guessing how much crystals does it take But i can tell from now, those with m3 items will have huge advantage over those with < M3 even if MUed MUed Shaft m3 will kill any medium to light hull < m3 whatever MU u will be using So i don't think low rankers will like to play anymore with high rankers

I suggest that this topic to be blocked then to unblock for discussion once the new physics be released, otherwise nobody is certain about the final changes.

AM waiting for the day that servers divide according to the language preferences cuz its really hard to play with people whom u don't get anything of what they say nor u can arrange for plans together.

you know this problem only the help@tankionline.com or support@tankionline.com can solve it, and nobody else

We did suggest to at least add a refund option of 50% to all items and this choice to be permanent, but nobody answered, its all about just getting more benefits, more customers, and knocking down the old players because they are done with them. As you said our voices are without any echo. i tried a lot before in suggestions and discussing with some developers and mods, nothing worked. but they say "we listen and read your comments and we are doing what satisfies our players" one of them told me to talk in a constructive way, ok whats wrong with adding the choice of 50% refund to any item except bonuses? this can solve the problem of any other future rebalance. Anyway lets just forget about it, and move forward and looking forward for better changes. Be optimistics, its just a game :)

Yes because it changed back today, its changing everyday, otherwise all the players who did comment under the topic of twins were delusional.

This will make from shaft a very powerful weapon, and you can use it with faster hulls than the slow mammoth, this time shaft players will be able to get into bonuses and not just keep watching them being picked up by others. You will act like a real sniper who hide and seek, but those who count on mammoth wont like it ..an P.S. there is an on future plan to switch in between sniping mode and normal mode, because after the new physics shaft wont be able to shoot faster like before but will snipe and zoom much faster and will mostly hit targets with less mistakes and more damage

What do you see in this video at 1:55 about twins? despite what the video shows is not the final changes.. and right now the push effect by twins has been removed http://www.youtube.c...7zX_ad2eY#t=120

People Changes already started to happen without changes in the stats Twins got nerfed "same fire rate but no pushing effect nor same damage and it shoots like a sooth rain", rail now shoots nearer to its max range of damage, Rico m3 is now much more powerful and different than 2 weeks ago. I noticed these changes during the last few days, what you see in the stats is totally not true. they will change the stats once final changes will be accepted. Just 2 hours ago i saw a freeze killed titan m3 + rustle with one load, then freeze got nerfed again. things are being tested right now in real battles. plz go check urself

the stat will change when final changes come to the end, but now the stats are totally false

it will have more power but less freeze effect. i think minor changes has been carried on since the last 2 weeks, just go try twins again and try freeze, even rail has changed and its damage is now more to the max of its limits unlike before. there is no more pushing effect by twins its just like a sooth rain While rico m3 is totally different now than 1 month ago. but not with m2

Look at this video at 1:55 and by the way, changes are already happening, freeze became more powerful, twins' damage became much less. may be i just got a glitch i don't know, but it didn't happen before that a freeze can kill titan m3 with rustle paint. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU7zX_ad2eY#t=120

Ok if really twins are going to get nerfed, and i just realized that its firerate will be decreased to the half !! Then all twins' players deserve a refund

am sorry i was talking about smoky, you adviced him to go for smoky despite he already have rail m3, thunder m3, isida m3, shaft m3 Why would you advice to go with smoky instead of microupgrading his hulls and other turrets?

But he will lose all his crystals, instead of that he can MU his shaft or rail or hulls.

I am about to hit the button and buy twins m3, but i feel they are not going to be as good as before, after i saw the video of the new physics :/

I will buy nothing in the discount despite i can buy twins m3, but i wont, will save crystals for the MUs If you have m3 items already and u wana spend all your crystals on this discount, then re think that u wont be able to MU your hulls and guns