most clans they prefer hornet over wasp, i have both wasp m3 and hornet m3, i find it more fun with wasp because i mastered its movements and i can runaway from an attacking freeze or an isida, however in DM i prefer hornet to steal kills, It depends on the map i guess, Generally when drugging i prefer hornet, but when playing with no drugs i prefer wasp. as it hurts when u get killed easily while using a drugging wasp with a rail or to let you flip and by this u lose the drugs u pressed on. So i guess its not fair to have wasp m3 with such high price, at least it was supposed to have a better armor, because it costs more and it comes with much higher rank than hornet. Its well known that wasp m2 is better than hornet m2 of course, but i doubt it with m3

I already mentioned with my original post what you just said, within the last lines. thanks for making it more clear , so yes you may go for few steps to MU a rail m2 and not to MU it fully. and by this you wont be losing a lot of crystals However, and despite this is not related to the MUs, but i felt one of the above commentors couldn't share in becoming a mod because of his age, however its well known that we have many mods who are under the age of 18, "But i confess that their mind is more mature than some adults" : some examples are in Here (3 mods under age of 18), so i guess there are other qualifications even if you were under 18 that can make from you a mod. "People please: after this don't go to unrelated topics such about mods or discounts or dates for changes to happen and stay within the main subject"

>>> S.V.ENS.JORNNot to mention in future plans there is the switching in between different guns option to be added :)

As a logical conclusion MUs are not advised unless if you want to upgrade an M3 item. Example Lets suppose you have M2 thunder and lets say you spent around 150,000 crystals on full MUs for your M2 thunder to be fully optimized as an M2 (near to M3) And when you reach to the rank when you can buy the M3 thunder, you will get its price by 75% discount i.e. instead of buying the M3 thunder with 186,000 crystals you will buy it with 46,500 Reasons why MUs work good just with m3 items are: 1- with the thunder example it means you will spend 150,000 + 46,500 = 196,500 while original price = 186,000 2- You spent 196,500 on MUs of thunder m2 and there will be anniversaries that you can buy its m3 with 25 - 50 % discount "That would feel XXX" 3- Don't forget about the M3 kits, they are at half the original prices so in general, its up to you to have patience and keep saving till you get the M3 then you start the MU, or you work so hard to earn every single crystal, and later ---> BOOM ----> a discount comes to one of the M3 items while you wasted double the original price However all the above theory is wrong in case that the optimal MUs is not = 75% of the next M level, than its M3-M2 + 1/4th the difference at that time the MUs for a thunder m2 will be 186,000 - 110,000 = 76,000 + 1/4th the 76,000 (19,000)= 95,000 to fully MU an M2 thunder But still too much to spend O_o so the worst nightmare to people who MUs their M2 items is when a discount to the M3 items comes, at that time they will know that they have spent triple the amount of crystals than somebody who was saving for the day of that m3 hull or turret. However -_- as the developers said, you wont need to fully MU your item, as the final MU steps of a property will be too much expensive and with minimal changes. Note; DIscounts on MUs is mostly not going to happen, nor is practical, since every MU will need a time of hours to days to be accomplished. I don't think many would get the point

I am not sure which one of the following is correct: 1- The new physics states that mammoth will increase in Hp and markedly decreases in speed, and even if you will be using nitro, it will add just 30% to the slow mammoth's speed. and if the new physics of mammoth will bring a speed of 4.7, then you can guess that with MU it can extend to max of 5.2 again 2- the Other plan is that with the new physics, all hulls will be getting faster speed, except mammoth, and nitro for sure will still be just 30% My guessing is that it will stay with its original speed, but other hulls will get much faster, and thus it wont be of any help in flag capturing even with nitro, since it will increase speed just by 30%

Reasons why developers refuse the refund 1- Everybody of the old players wont need to buy with their credits anymore, they will get refunded and will upgrade to max their new items 2- It will make old players get great advantage over new players 3- Alot bought the product kits or at 50% discount days, and its difficult to know who bought using the original price and who bought using a discount. No refund is unfair why? 1- Dramatic changes in physics and the MUs changed the opinion about hulls and guns with many players 2- The Kits just came all of a sudden and that was totally unfair, because some whether paid or played so hard to get their items, and now they see them offered all at half discount after they spent all their sweat 3- Old players have the favor for expanding this game. Draw Backs: 1- Old players are not encouraged anymore to invite new players to the game 2- Old players wont pay anymore as well. 3- Some will start advertising against the game, and a noticeable decrease in the game rating is highly expected. 4- Alot have lost their trust in paying with real money after the so many unexpected changes 5- This sounds "it doesn't matter since new players are joining", well you are risking your business, i just know several old players they stopped calling for new players. Many areas stopped being interested in the game and heading toward other multiplayer games. Result of no refund: Game will keep gaining profits, but instead of getting them at a much higher rate, the profits will turn to a much slower rate, and that made some to suggest the facebook advertisements and rewards, etc No one to be blamed, its really a very difficult situation to deal with. But it can be answered by some of the mods in here if any bad things happened with the previous refund. Solution Suggested We offered developers to add a refund option of 50% to each item despite that they didn't comment and insisted that a refund is totally not going to happen Facts: MUs came just to cover the so many mistakes in physics and to get more profits "again we are not against this" We are not against the game getting financial profits, we want it to keep going and to turn more interesting, we just wish if they listen to our suggestions rather than telling us go post your ideas within specific sites, and we got no answers as well The game has lost its glamor, its not interesting anymore for many players i know "not all" as its used to be.

1- Which will come first? the new physics or the MUs? or the MUs will be fixing the new physics? 2- Will the MUs after an M3 item be available at all advanced ranks equally? e.g. if i have rail m3, can i get it upgraded fully to m4 like a generalissimos can do?

sorry yes, it was around 70% boost, and it will change to 30%

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well thats too bad then !

well don't forget that the nitro will boost the speed just by 30% instead of X2

yes u r right, i think the above mentioned stat wrongfully said that SPM will be less, rather what was meant is a faster reload time,

but this is the same of the current shaft

Agreed, at m2 great change in stat, but not at its m3, as if u have done nothing, just polishing the shape

According to my experience with rico, when am using it with light fast tanks it brings better results, as i can do much better maneuvers, and getting closer to the enemy or getting farer to escape, "and the fact when you shoot fire while running fast toward the enemy u will be getting a higher fire rate", while with heavy tanks, you will finish the chain of bullets and the tank that time will look helpless, like sneezing from time to time

For me its slow speed is a big obstacle, i have its m3, and when i before i bought titan m3, i was preferring titan m2 when drugging over viking m3, and it was doing much better than viking, but talking about maps like Iran and not the big ones

Its the Jedi Art and since i don't like smileys i will put this - - __ - -

Wasp is good just in non drugger battles and in few maps only I have its m3, and when i drug its useless, unless i find the right moment, The art with wasp is that since u r easily to be killed, u have to approach the enemies flag so careful without drugs, once u will find the field is empty u can take the flag and run fast with it with the double speed and armor. but if you are facing drugging big tanks in a battle like Iran, its useless as u wont find good places to hide with the flag, but its more fun to play with a fast tank than with a slow turtle But since i have hornet m3 as well, When i was a noob i used rail with hornet, but now i am using it with wasp, it just needs time to know how to handle it But i prefer hornet m3 over wasp when drugging.

The difference u have found in btw M1 - M3 was all < 0.5 SPM/ 15 seconds, the rough estimation for M1 to M3 will be 6 shots / 15 seconds. Try to do a test, i did a test and i was shocked ! however may be the part of my mistake is that the frame rate or the internet speed with another laptop was faster than the other laptop speed, and that can bring a difference in missing some Frames

Great work you did ! and that means the SPM in btw M1 to M3 is the average of 6 shots / 15 seconds .. now the stat mistake they have done is more clear

these are shots / """ MINUTE""" which is not a big deal.. the only change you will feel when going from M0 to M1, thats all when 2 tanks fight against each, they wont take a minute for one to kill the other, which means its totally insignificant and a stat error calculated by the devs, thus they came up with the microupgrade thing to fix up the bugs that happened in order to avoid a refund, count the spm again with the factor of 15 seconds and see if any difference

where is that site of votes?

anybody heard anything about the time of the new physics of rico from the russian society?

Thunder M1 is the gun with the biggest jump from its m0 to m1 Not to mention a faster reload than rail, and its splash damage.