Not sure how but Hornet is just as fast as Wasp now. I took a flag from one side of Wolfenstein to the other with my M4 Wasp on Nitro and a Hornet followed me the whole way. :(

Maybe because that's way too many shots to kill a Wasp :ph34r:

Agreed - save your crystals folks. You're going to need them when M3 Alterations finally hit.

Even match IMO. I saw Cooper? do a study which said both tanks died in a head to head. YMMV

Suck it, 31% sales... Got a 44% personal discount on Dictator :D Also bought a module to ward off the new balance OP turrets :ph34r:

I'm surprised there isn't more traffic in this thread. Post balance update, I see many more Titan users in Poly CP. Mammoth has vanished. And then there is speed boost. Titan M3+ on Nitro is almost light hull fast. I see this being the new standard hull in battles - it's the new Viking

My M4 Viking spins like a top when I get hit by enemy fire or bumped by another tank. I miss every other shot bc of this. Tanki needs to fix Viking ASAP

Rail. I feel the worst for users of Railgun. How hard is it to master this turret on the hull of your choosing? Pretty darn hard. Now the characteristics of both the gun and hulls have changes. Rails shots are missing all over maps right now as players struggle to adapt to the changes. That's just harsh. Who knows how long it will take Railers to completely relearn their rig...

I found Rico-Viking to be unplayable, but I suspect that's the Viking's fault. I'll try it on Titan and see how that plays. I have only seen one other Rico at Gissmo level since the balance change :(

RIP Rico RIP Mammoth Haven't seen either of these since the change. On the other hand- Titan is king. (It's the new Viking :ph34r:) Freeze is back, but Firebird is still more common. Firebird M3+ is apparently useful now. Twins is better. Thunder is better. Rail is a lot better with the shorter reload. Vulcan seems unchanged. As does Shaft. Smoky and Hammer seem the same but might not have gotten enough of a nerf to balance out the nerfs to the hulls they are tearing through. Isida - is NOT dead. But I have noticed that I can kill them - they are no longer immortal due to OP self healing, but neither is it useless. I can't say RIP Viking, not quite yet but time will tell. The hull is very frustrating to use. It is very fast which is its only redeeming feature now as it no longer sports 'enviable armor'. It's amazingly fast on the new speed boost and at times I was surprised to see that kind of speed outside of a wasp. Still good for CTF maybe but for Poly CP Viking just can't measure up.

My Viking - spins like a top when struck by anything. In Poly CP my once sturdy M4 Viking gets batted around like a cat toy. Only Vulcan with it's gyro is any good mounted on it now. So I switched to Titan. Much better. I expect other Viking lovers to do the same. Titan is now what Viking used to be. But Titan's power was also reduced. No more easy gold boxes. Only way to get gold boxes now is to buy Dictator.

LOVE the new F5 refresh feature!!! Now I don't lose my battle fund anymore! THANK YOU!!!

Looking forward to playing tomorrow. My key questions: -Will Viking drift? Ugh..... -Will players start using M3+ Hunter? Can't remember the last time I saw one. -Will Ricochet M4 be competitive in Gismo drug wars? -Will Firebird become the new 'everywhere' Gismo turret? -Will there actually be any Dictator-Rail battles? There aren't any Wasp-Rail battles today, so.... -Will the new damage indicators be useful? -Will I notice the equipment change delay? -Will Crystal payouts also be multiplied by 10? That is a joke, of course they won't be. -Will overall gameplay be substantially different? We will see...

I'm kinda in a wait and see mentality now. I agree that the nerfing of turrets is complemented by the nerfing of hulls. Of course I still have to ask why do both when you can do neither and have the same balance?

Why nerf Rico? It's already a bottom of the barrel turret at M3-M4 lacking the punch it needs to compete with the other endgame weapons. That punch comes in both impact and damage. Super disappointing after Rico performs so well at M0-M2. Nerf both and this turret will disappear :O. Already Poly CP battles at Gissmo have maybe one Rico prowling around. Reload is just too slow, and when the enemy pops a repair kit - your work is worth nothing and you're dead. Isida M3-M4 needs a nerf to damage. Freeze needs a buff at all mods although I think it's M4 version is highly underrated. Yeah reduce Vulcan's impact force. I get all of this. But the rest of what they are planning I just don't get :blink: Why make all hulls in a given weight class the same HP? Why nerf nearly every turret in use now - except Firebird :blink: ??? I might play BP a bit more if my Wasp is stronger, but this is just a toy. Rico-Viking is my bread and buttter combo, and both are getting nerfed. Bottom line I expect a completely different game after the rebalance. I have almost a full M3+ garage and have taken advantage of the recent MU sales, so it's not the end of the world if I have to switch to whatever combo ends up being OP after the rebalance (Fire/Freeze). I will not spend money or crystals on alterations trying to get back what was taken away. >[ Sorry this turned into a rant. I very much dislike having something I have worked on for years pulled out from under my feet.

Respectfully disagree. Cedric is our voice back to the AP development team, which makes him our greatest tool in terms of expressing the desires of the community. That said, I will not bother him with this unless there is sufficient support. Thus the creation of this thread. To others, I'm open to debate over the balance of the Christmas Assault Mode map. Plenty of good points on both sides. To O.S.A.N. - Your last sentence is the underlying feeling that led me back to Assault Mode - This game needs something to make it interesting again - not just another re-balance :wacko: Anyone have any pictures???

Freeze mid battle - hundreds of crystals lost - actually at respawn, if that helps -worst of all some mult took my place and cost the team the win

I respect that - but I found that I enjoyed the challenge of finding new and interesting ways to cap. That map had a lot of approaches.

Two asks of this thread. 1 - I would like to generate community interest for the return of the Assault Mode from last year. If there is enough interest, I will bring this to Cedric's attention. I found the map and mode very interesting and would love to see it as a permanent fixture in the game. 2 - Post your photos from this map - I'll start with my rank up below ->

I'm now noticing a lot of client freezes when battles end

Song: Always On My Mind Year of Grammy - 1982 Category - Song of the Year

Happy with consolation prize :D

Glad to get honorable mention

Drop and break your favorite toy, tool, glass, trinket etc ->press 1 Late for school, work, a date, or hanging with friends ->press 4 Read or hear the word 'drop' ->"where was?' Take a hay ride on Halloween, look at the tractor ->'would be faster with a midrange hull' See any bush or shrub ->'noob tree doesn't turn when I do'

Batmobile What you are talking about is an after market 'spoiler'