I been playing with thunder past few days, this never happens. I always see damage numbers! I can confirm also, that when isida is trying to kill you, it's 50/50 chance you will fire ghost shot in snipe mode, arcade shot works fine and never fails. I am just so surprised this issue haven't been fixed yet. I do understand it was halloween and devs are busy fixing issues with that map, but comon ...

I so agree, arcade shot is stupidly OP atm and they make shaft so unpredictable. I have noticed that isidas are causing this, THE worst amount of ghost bullets always appear in RIO CTF when enemy or our team have isidas, this happened yesterday about 25 times in 15 minute battle. This is first time ever I rage quit shaft and switch to thunder.

You can only wear one protection module at time. There is no double protections.

Don't be so freaking stubborn, you know exactly what I mean. Im out tho.

That is why I said public battle dude. I am aware of pro battles and have participated multiple times.

I don't think new ranks will remove gizmos from battle ranges, or I am wrong? As I understood, it's just extra crystal boost for gizmos, so they can earn some from rank ups.

I don't think I ever seen public gizmo match where nobody drugs. Was travelling for a week, so exciting to read this topic now. LOVE

When I was candidate for battle mod, I learnt that when using too low equipment for your rank, it is considered as sabotage and it is banable offence. BUT, this only is against rules when fighting team battles, in DM, it is no problem. If you want to ''test'' out some hull or turret before buying higher rank turret, use it parkour match, create private battle or go to DM.

Cedric, please tell us, that someone is working on shaft glitch? And it will be solved and not left like this?

I get f""" you more often than you would think. But I do get it, specially people who use supplies, they spawn, press 3 and get 1 hitted without ability to use RK.

I don't think any proper shaft user will disagree with your statement. Shaft did get a upgrade, arcade shot is insane dealing almost thunders min damage on m4 level and having ONLY 0.1s longer reload. DD shaft can 1 hit ANY hull there is in full snipe mode without DA and protection against shaft. I am eager to try it out with alternator, to see max damage, arcade shot and other aspects with it. Edit: http://screencast.com/t/PgWCfKBox Since it was bugging me so badly, I had to get it and try it out. Max damage with DD at 6240 M4 shaft, which can 1 hit M4 viking/hunter/dictator using DA and no shaft protection. Arcade shot same. But oh man how long it is loading. I wasn't using stopper, just counting myself - about 7 seconds for full snipe shot. I think it is same speed as loading energy after full shot. So it is SUPER slow. I guess alternator for shaft is worth it when you actually do proper clan battle as only good thing about it is to have ability to 1 hit M4 viking/hunter/dictator. For sure not good for my playing style.

After rebalance, that is 100% not possible unless you use mines. Even when you hit your teammate, your bullet is ''gone'' - no penetration at all.

It's called experimentation and I actually do have knack for it(you are right, not in science for sure). But as entrepreneur, I have discovered that tests which will prove nothing are just unefficient waste of time and effort. And by stating a fact, that they seem fairly equal, is for sure incorrect just by running a test which is already written clearly in wiki. As all of these turrets have unique difference in characteristic, which will majorly influence the way one would play with them, they can NOT be compared in minimal range by just pressing space bar and seeing which one will die first. Over and out.

That feeling when you fight twins/viking who is fully drugged, used repair kit and calls you drugger after he dies.

No offence, but that sounds like a stupid test. Test freeze like it should and are being played by circling around enemy. I bet isida/firebird would have no chance at all and freeze would win by at least half of health bar. I am not saying freeze is new isida or highly overpowered, just pointing out fact, that your test was stupid.

Really? I haven't check that much, did quick check on TOP 10 druggers, and I would of been top 5. But good to know, Thanks. I would be 7th in here with 182.5.

Gotta start drugging more, so far behind you guys. Not ever sure how the hell you can use so many of them. I started drugging like there is no tomorrow from rank of Captain. Or you guys go to parkour battle and just put some item to your 1 2 3 4 5 key? But I am at 171 gold box drops, must be top 10, no?

I do agree, shaft is better for my playing style aswell now, but I so miss those triple/double kills when playing DM :) Pulled 86 score yesterday in Poly DM 15 mintue battle, this is my best one ever and should of been at least +8 due to ghost bullet glitch.

Fix shaft's ghost bullet glitch please, it's getting worser, actually had to swap to different weapon due to this glitch - happened about 20 times in one 15 minute battle yesterday: http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=177137&page=278 Out of interest, why did you remove multikill option for shaft? it is camping weapon and should have ability to shoot many people at same time.

I also feel that removing multi kills with shaft is also kind of unfair. I loved that! Rail still has it ...

Anyone else noticing new glitch with shaft? There is known glitch, when you spawn, your turret rotates in random direction without you pressing anything and you have to push arrow key to correct direction to stop it - it's actually double glitch - when you spawn and then again when you go to snipe mode. Anyway, now there is ANOTHER one. If i could live with rotating glitch, the new one makes gameplay unfair. I done about 10 hours after rebalance, so this wasn't just lag or ''bad luck''. I call it ''ghost bullet''. it didn't happen THAT MUCH in bigger map CTF battles, about 2-3 times only, but when playing poly DM, it occured at least 9 times during 15 minutes. Anyway, you spawn, go to snipe mode, wait for it to charge, shoot and bullet doesn't do any damage. Just goes thru opponent and that is it. I DID NOT MISS! Yes, I could mistake when shooting long distance as I can not see if it is doing any damage, but this happened also in close range. Could any dev look into it? As rebalance just happened, I am not mad or furious, just letting you know about this, so this could be fixed.

Good Game! I still need getting use to lower damage, but for sure, it is more powerful now than before rebalance due to faster reload. And normal shots are fixed damage now, which is perfect! See you soon again.

In my opinion, Tanki should make few days ''option'' to swap your turret/hull, so people who ALWAYS played isida(MU-d it to m4 or almost m4 without buying crystals) and have NO other turrets, won't quit the game. I am not complaining much myself, as I have many m4s to choose, but I can understand the hate from people who only have one - I would quit tbh, when it takes about year of gameplay to get enough crystals to MU one turret to maximum.

Yea, I don't know about lower ranks as I only compared m4's. But I get it what you mean. That probably sucks bad.

I like the shaft update, it will be one of the best turrets to use - medium range, long range, even polygon DM. Faster loading, faster recoil. Yeh, small nerf, but you could 1 hit without drugs only 2 hulls before aswell - nothing really changed. And if you want to get that damage up, get a alternator - problem solved.