We dont want supplies. We want cheaper pro passes and we want to play no supplies battles and we want to complete our missions in xp/bp mode and other no supplies battles.

I was shaft for 100+ hours in eaarlier ranks. It feels good to get them from a distance, but in later ranks, the druggers will come and get you. They will have more DA and MU's on their hulls, so you can;t one shot them. Shaft cant protect itself from anything if it gets up close. If you spend crystals on supplies, you'll never be able to save for m3 kit when they unlock at Lieutenant General. They're 400k on average. Do your calculations. I hope you come across heavy drugging buyers in recent future. You will also start liking no supplies battles then. PS: I played today against General (2 ranks higher than me), and the poor guy had m1 hunter and m2 ricochet (with no MUs). I had better equipment than him, but didn't have the heart to take him out, because most probably he is a non-buyer like me, who is short on crystals. Buyers on the other hand have m3 kits and already started MUing them from Lieutenant General. Even if you do not spend on supplies, it is still hard to save up for decent equipmet (2 hulls, 2 turrets of each modification). If, as you suggest, we spend on supplies, well, then good luck battling Legends with your m1's and m2's.

I really hope you rank up fast and take your shaft in DM. Coz I have rail m2 and I played in DM today, with people 2 ranks above me, and I used 25 supplies in 10 minutes to just maintain a K/D of 1 (and my rail is good, i have m2 alteration + a few MU's). Regarding kill-steal, rail can do it as well as any, especially with MU's ont it + m2 alteration + Double Damage. You are again wrong when you see we can get "tons" of crystals by completing mission chains, because they just reduced the probabilty (I think from 50% to 37%). Drugs beat skill always, no matter how skilled you are. That supplies 100 kit you talk about won't last even 20 games in the higher ranks. Somebody give this guy a 3 month premium please, so he ranks up fast.

Little kid, you're warrant officer 1, where hardly anybody uses drugs. The drugging gets bad from lieutenant ranks onwards. I used to play regularly in non-pro battle through WO ranks, and used to enjoy playing ctf. Then later I realised that if a drugger wants your flag, he will take it, by force (repair kits, double armour, speed boost, mines, double damage all simultaneously). Rank up to Major General, and then look how much you enjoy drug wars. Not many have a decent m2 garage, and face m3's / m4's with drugs. From your profile, I see you mainly use shaft and most probably camp away from the druggers. This can result in good K/D, but from your experience / crytals ratio, I can make out that you are on the losing side on most games. To try and win battles, you need to avoid camping and get into the midfield, and thats where you will encounter the druggers. Keep playing and I'm pretty sure your opinion will change with time.

I seriously thought 451 would be the worst update ever in tanki history, but they just managed to beat it in 453. Fewer crystals everyday mean non-buyers at a greater disadvantage, as they will not be able to buy decent equipment for their rank. Devs hope they start buying crystals. Tanki, my best advice for you is to allow, maybe, around 20 second advertisements while the game loads to increase your revenue, instead of telling us silly things like "Don't tell your password to anyone" or "Paints change the look of your tank" etc. on the screen while battle is loading. Miniclip has several successful multiplayer online games, and thats what they do to increase revenue, and they even give free daily gifts to players just for logging in to the game, even if they dont play it. These games also have a "shop" where buyers can get better equipment. All these updates favouring buyers will lead to non-buyers quitting or reduce their playing time to max 30 minutes a day.

Nice article. I am happy you did not praise the developers in it, and instead voiced the opinion of majority players. Thanks for the information though, I did not know about the auto finish feature adjustment. Also, regarding the error update, the only thing that has changed for me is that the error message, instead of appearing at the center of the scree, now comes on top right. It still happens quite often though, and very annoying in polygon xp/bp, when you're finishing on top and get kicked from the battle by the time you re enter the game.

Even after a swap, I only got 1 crystal missions for today, for 640 crystals only :(

They clearly seem to have some financial problems / greediness. What good are supplies when you don't like drug battles? Many of us like to play a fair game, without drugs. Now when I rank up I will be playing against m3's more often, because kits are cheaper for buyers. Another update which puts non-buyers at a disadvantage. Those crystals from missions are the main source of income for many players. I am seeing too many people in my rank with m1 / m0 equipment. This wont make matters any better.

Why dont you discuss planned updates with majority of player and get their feedback before implementing the update? I will give you some free feedback on the Matchmaking system you have in mind: Many midrankers (and even m4 legends) invest heavily in only 1 combination. Now if somebody with viking-rail or shaft-mammoth is not allowed to choose their map, and get sent to polygon or noise maps, they will just be a burden for their team. Similarly, firebirds and freeze would not like to be sent to Massacre, madness, mote carlo without their permission, as these are mostly for long range turrets. Please do not ruin a good game. If it ain't broke, dont fix it.

Hello I had some ideas that might get all of us get missions done quickly in non-pro battles, since they can no longer be done in pro battles. I will not tell you how much I hate this update, but will instead focus on what we all can do to help each other and save precious time and supplies, which can be used elsewhere : Now tanki gives us 5 kinds of missions. Lets discuss each of them individually: 1. Finish first in a battle Solution: Tanki has 8 EN servers, and 22 RU servers. I suggest we reserve servers RU15 to RU22 for missions of this type. Now usually there are 4 vs 4 team matches in these servers. Here is my proposition: Say I'm in blue team and there are 3 others in my team, and 3 in red team. I call out in battle chat that I need to finish first. The remaining people in blue team leave. Its 3 vs 1. Tanki will detect that teams are unbalanced, and battle timer will start. Battle ends within 1 minute, and I get my mission done. If you really want to enjoy your CTF game, then play in one of the EN servers, or RU1 to RU14. So nobody is hurt. 2. Capture flags Again, we call out in chat who needs flag, and nobody stops him or shoots him. In an orderly manner, we can get job done quickly. Again, only for servers RU15 to RU22. We dont want to do it on EN1 as some people might actually be enjoying a CTF game there, and our being mults may not be a good experience for them. 3. Collect Boxes These can also be done easily on the servers I mentioned. I will not comment about gold box missions. I always swap it away. 4. Destroy enemies Earn experience in a battle mode For this I suggest you remain on the EN servers or RU1 to RU14. It will take longer, but please don't come to a 1 vs 1 battle and ask somebody to let you kill them 80 times. 5. Capture points Again we can do this sequentially on RU15 to RU22 No killing, we take points one by one. Thats it from me. I hope we all cooperate on this, and get the missions done quickly like before, and spend more time on game formats that we enjoy more (polygon, noise, xp/bp, rio ctf, madness, monte carlo etc.) Please spread the word! PS: I'm still a bit new to the forum. It would be great if somebody could maybe create a separate topic for this, and pin it on top. It might be a good idea to post a link to this in battle chats on all servers from time to time.

Yes sir, we are already used to being battered in drug battles, which is why many, including me, buy xp/bp combo and play on RU1, where we can get away from the drugs, and complete our missions in fun battles, where only skill and teamwork and good coordination between players wins games. This update brings back those bad memories at Lieutenant and Major ranks where I first encountered those heavy druggers. Since then I've played xp/bp 95% of the time, and it was good to complete missions in those. What is wrong with doing missions in xp/bp battles?

Next battle results: Played 15 minutes, got 250+ score, 82 crystals. This is what non buyers get in drug battles, where skill doesnt count, only supplies matter. Mr. Cedric and Mr. Hazel : Here's some homework for you if you care : Change your rank to brigadier, choose a non-pro battle from the battle list, go there with stock m2.0 equipment, no protection, no supplies, and check out the ease with which you get kills. You dont have to get 50 kills in only 1 battle, but try to work towards it and you'll see the balance in the game. I still finished 3rd in the game, with K/D > 1 because I camped and never tried to take the point. There were 6 - 7 more on my team below me who had completely miserable K/Ds and really low scores, because they were spawn killed throughout by those titan-thunders and viking - hammers who keep using repair kits and other supplies nonstop.

I hate you devs now. Just trying to complete missions, at brigadier rank, I am forced to battle with m3s with my m2s, and I'm running low on supplies, so I didn't drug. I played desert cp with rail viking m2 (good combination for desert cp) and we lost by huge margin because opposite was drugging heavily. I played for 10 - 12 minutes and got 28 crystals for the battle. How do I get 50 kill against people with m3+ and always Double Armour and Repair Kits? Nonbuyers like me dont get battle fund because we always lose, and we cant complete missions because other team drugs a lot, so thats another source of crystals lost. So yes, do you think about us? Earlier I played xp/bp 8 vs 8 and got missions done in a fair manner, and had fun also doing missions. Now each time I play, it brings in me a sense of hatred against these druggers and especially you devs. Ban missions from being completed in private battles, but allow in pro battles.

PLEASE REMOVE THE FINISH FIRST MISSION AND REPLACE IT BY FINISH IN TOP 3 Its very hard to finish first with heavy drugging buyers in the game. Non buyers need the crystals from these missions to stay competitive.

If people fire-wasp and gain millions of xp, how does it hurt the economy? They have more crystals, but also rank up faster. The economy is only hurt when buyers get equipment which unlocks much later and MU it to the next modification, and use supplies all the time. It is very hard for us to finish first against such people. Please allow missions to be done in pro battles. You can ban them in private battles. I always liked to play xp/bp for 1 hour and complete missions that way, everyday. This update forces me to play 1 hour drug battle for just 1 mission, and most people who have played xp/bp will agree that drug wars aren't that much fun as a polygon no supplies game. Please listen to the community and revert this update.

Got a mission to finish first thrice. It will give me 2800 crystals. Assuming I enter an 8 vs 8 battle, and all 8 on my team have equally good equipment, and we drug equally, there is a 1/8th probability that I finish first. This means expected number of matches I need to play is 8 to finish first once. Thrice means 24 matches. Each of 15 minutes. Thats 6 hours of play on a week day. The only thing that kept me logging in to tanki everyday was because I got satisfaction from getting my missions done. They are the main source of crystals for non-buyers like me. For the last 100 days my mission chain has been unbroken. Today is the first day where I will not complete any missions, simply because I do not enjoy playing in drug battles, even if I have a million drugs. Why play a game when it doesn't give you satisfaction? To me it always seems unethical to drug when somebody from opposite team is not drugging. I regard tanki as an e-sport, and in any sport, fairplay is nice. Doping ("drugging") is illegal in all sports I know. xp/bp and other no supplies battles are nice because nobody has a really unfair advantage over others. The increase in kit prices was okay, but this is the worst update. Without crystals from daily missions, I will never be able to save for m3 stuff. This update totally ruined the game for me now. The mission chain finally breaks.... There is no fun in the game now.

Reduce Daily Mission rewards by 20% and allow them to be finished in pro-battles. Daily missions were just about the only thing that kept me interested in playing tanki everyday. Many missions are hard with 16+ players on the map. If I cant complete missions, it doesnt give me satisfaction, which means I dont play anymore. Other changes are nice.

Micro upgrades for m2 and m3 similar to m1 would be nice. 10 steps at half price, speed ups twice as expensive.

okay, I get your point. But think about it : why does anyone get better equipment? To give them better chance at winning games? Winning is usually what people care for in games? Earlier with m4s you had like 60% chance of winning. Now it is maybe 55%. But its still pretty even contest. You guys sound like 7 feet tall professional boxers who like to beat up school children everyday for their daily dose of fun.

Why should buyers win each time? Non buyers should also have chance if they have more skill. I dont like this "pay to win policy" which you apparently believe in.

I like this update. Buyers have slightly reduced power now. But removing discounts on kits on special days : im not too sure whether I like this or not. At Lieutenant General, almost all players have m3s. So non buyers need to have m3s also, but current prices for kits are too high. So either lower kit prices, or remove paints and protections from kits, or give more crystals to non buyers in daily missions, or make it cheaper to upgrade to m2 50/50. Fomr 25/50 onwards, steps are too expensive. And we cant wait till Marshal to get m3s, since Lieutenant General to Marshal is long time with m2s. And to all those Legends with m4s complaining : You need to rely on your skills more. Why afraid? m3 still weaker than m4.