So FLYING MONKEY is not OP. You really think the devs nerfed vulcan to balance the game out, now who is delusional. When you can say that vulcan was by far the MOST OP thing in the game with 100% certainty, then you will have cause to object to my post. Until that happens, which we both no will not, best to be more compelling with your posts when trying to quash mine.

Disagree. With the exception of the FLYING MONKEY i tend to get the better of both of the other hulls with no tracks. I just corner them and prevent them from moving as much as i can.

And which is more OP, a vulcan with HI/IB are a FLYING MONKEY with crisis ending battles all on it's own in quick fashion.

And if i don't have this hull? You surmise wrongly. Most vulcan players used this combo.....FACT. I have been in this game long enough to no what is beneficial and what is not. I state my views on what i no to be correct when entering a battle. You and most of the mods state your views mainly to deflect from the obvious, that is when the devs bring in yet another OP update are game wrecking change.

A long time. And HI is the only useful augment available to vulcan that gets you anywhere in battle, as i have just found out. Played 3 battles in a row, won 1 lost 2. Teams were not very good, but got top twice and a 2nd place and that is only because i can use vulcan as good as anyone. I used my drone to the best effect i could, but still only managed at best 9 kills in battle, ironically that was one of the ones i lost 5-0 and was over the quickest. I got killed twice which truth be told is counted as a bad return for me for such a dire amount of kills. I can of course adjust my style of play to suit this game changing nerf to vulcan, but really i shouldn't have to. The devs as far as i am concerned have wrecked vulcan. 1ST it was the damage it done as well as the gyroscope, which does not work as intended after they also nerfed that to make it useless. Say what you want but this change imo has already had a big impact on this turret and how it operates in full on high rank battles were there is any amount of OP gear aimed at destroying you, especially if the enemy perceives you as the main threat. First it was shaft with the ridiculous laser so i ditched that turret. Next it was freeze when the shock freeze was rendered useless, don't no what it is like now i never use it. Next came twins when you had to get the augment to stop you self damaging, so i quit that to. The list is nigh on endless on the amount of negative changes the devs have made over the years. The common denominator for the endless amount of changes/updates (mostly negative) as you well no is CASH. There has been very little stability in the game as far as balance goes for a long time now. Once the devs realised that bringing in OP updates/changes could make them easy money (P2W PLAYERS ONLY) they just kept doing it, FLYING MONKEY being the most OP one to date by a big margin. I have disliked just about every update they have introduced to the game for good reason.........P2W ONLY with ZERO BALANCE. Vulcan is just the most recent in a very, very long line of negative changes and we both no it will not be the last. The game is dead.

Nope didn't time that bit as to me it was irrelevant. And 26 secs in a proper battle with all the OP combos trying to take you out is not a long time. You no like me why this was done. Like everything the devs do it's cash driven. The devs are devious and greedy and care little the effect nerfing/buffing has on anything they do as long as they make money. Just pleased i do not play on a regular basis now. They have killed the game and there really is no coming back from this mess they created because of their greed. This of course is using maxed out everything. Try using a lower rank with MK5/6 and a drone say only 10/20 15/20 and your firing time is cut by quite a bit. My hull for this test was hunter by the way.

Of course you are wrong. Vulcan is now useless. The devs gave it IB/HI for cash reasons, now it has served it's purpose they have taken away what cost a great deal just to say they have listened to player feedback. If you cannot grasp this, then you are delusional just like a certain mod. I use vulcan a lot and so i to can say that this nerf is a disaster for vulcan. It is like taken away the FLYING MONKEYS ability to jump/fly which would not be a bad thing to do......maybe in a couple years they will nerf the flying hack when it to has served it's cash purpose. Care to name any more combos that are broken and way more OP than what vulcan was.

Its how long you can maintain firing with vulcan........ once your bar has reached zero and you begin to fire using the burn effect with IB. 26 secs is how long you can fire before you have to stop because you will self destruct if no RK is available.

You are joking mod, BALANCE give your addled head a good shake, BALANCE has no place in the devs plans for any of the OP rip offs they have brought out or will bring out in the future. You mod are delusional if you think this.

Nope im not joking, so no WRONG. And for your information mod, i use quite a few different combos, are i used to because now with the way the game is i really don't bother. And 26 seconds is useless with all the OP combos in battle. You might get 2/3 kills before you have no choice but to pause, which is not ideal. And lets not forget you have to heat up first then try and take advantage of the extra HP that will give you, but you are now always aware that very soon you have got to stop are the overheat will kill you. It's a bad nerf when you think of all the OP gear in battle that is far worse than vulcan IB/HI. Vulcan is a scapegoat for the devs. Let's not act DUMB, we both no how the devs work when it comes to nerfs and buffs, they only happen when it coincides with any money making scheme they bring out. FLYING MONKEY is still way OP and no doubt will stay that way until it has served it's purpose. And the nerf to this particular augment does make it useless, how many vulcan users use the other ones available, not very many and why is that, because they are crap that's why.

If your below marshal with MK6 your ok. Marshal are above with MK6 your stuffed. The HR when used with hunter/ vulcan and maxed out defender drone with IB and DA equipped at the right time, lets you fire continually before having to stop due to overheating to much for approx 26 seconds. Vulcan has been obliterated with this update. It imo is no longer a viable turret in battle. Because of this and all the OP updates that can take you out regardless of what combo you are using, vulcan is now one of the weakest turrets out there in regards of defending itself, not just against the enemy but from itself if IB is used for battle. IB/HI was a big selling point for vulcan, which is why the devs changed how it worked in battle, for money. Now vulcan has served it's purpose, they nerf it big time and will no doubt spout the usual lies that it was nerfed in response to negative player feedback. IB cost 245,000 cry, it is now all but useless, as the self inflicting overheating damage is just not worth it to overheat enemies, as you do just as much damage to yourself as well as the enemy, if not more so. Just like twins and the splash damage that it never had, until the devs gave it splash damage and then gave you a solution to prevent that damage, for money of course. The devs corrupt and devious nature never, ever surprises me and yet there are STILL players who defend them no matter how many money grabbing, OP updates they bring into the game. They are typical of any business that once they have their customers/player base, they then invent various ways to rip you off, but give just enough back (barely) to keep you hooked. The game is dead, only the hardcore P2W see any update the devs bring into the game as a positive. They have crippled the game for out and out profit. Leeches everyone of them.

About as straight as a circle, that's just been voted circle of the year. Devs as always are being blatantly devious and greedy. You are given them way to much credit. They are acting as they have always done, with absolute greed to line their pockets and the only winners are the devs and the P2W players, who they pretend to look after but who are in reality getting shafted more than the F2P, they just don't see it yet, either that are they don't care as long as they get to rule battles against the substandard equipment of the F2P.

lol i worked out what you meant. I done the test as stated in my other post. Just ignore the fire module bit, forgot it only reduces damage not heat. im noob. The times are correct until overheat kicks in. The seconds are what you get before you have to stop firing, otherwise you self destruct unless a repair kit is used.

Never mind.......i no what you mean, fire module reduces damage only. sheesh this game has me going around the twist at times.

You mean the HI augment?

You are having a laugh, are you not. @wolverine848 has like myself given a huge amount of feedback on what should be done to enhance the game, (in a positive way) especially in regards to balance and any amount of other game related topics that have been posted in the forum. @wolverine848 is more aware of facts and figures than i am, mainly because i generally dissect all the OP updates the devs bring into the game aimed at P2W only. If you want to try and admonish @wolverine848 you chances of that are about 1/1000. If on the other hand you want to admonish both of us, i would say you chances of that just increased the number to about 1/1000,000. Your not very bright are you, so i would give up while your ahead with the 1/1000,000 ratio. It really would be for the best.

Pray what have the devs given to F2P in comparison to the vast array of updates they have gave to players that can afford it. And that takes how long to accomplish? P2W can manage this feat in about 10 minutes max with a credit card if they so wish. So you saved crystals, and how long has that taken you, way longer than 10 minutes. And i have no need to save for anything, my garage is maxed out, not that it makes much difference with all the OP stuff in the game. I no longer play unless the daily missions yield very easy ones to achieve. You my delusional friend are just the type of player the devs like, even more so if you actually spent any money. They say ignorance is bliss, you have it in abundance.

Try telling that to @thunderhunter123 and good luck, your gonna need it along with the patience of a saint.

I truly give up on all you mods, especially YOU. I said ACTUAL BATTLES. I SPECIFICALLY said ACTUAL BATTLES for a very good reason. Tell you what mod, give it another go (last chance) and lets see what you come up with this time. Remember the parameters when replying this time ok, actual battles, not shards, containers, missions etc, etc.

Without HI and using maxed out defender drone and 50% fire protection, you can overheat for about 16 seconds if you time your double armour right just as you start to overheat and not need a repair kit. Without HI and with no defender drone and still with 50% fire protection, you can overheat for about 7/8 seconds, again if you time it right with DA. Anymore than that without using a repair kit and your toast. Conclusion:- On top of the nerfs vulcan has had in the past, this is the final nail in the coffin. Just done the test again with NO fire protection and the results were identical. This proves that the fire protection module DOES NOT resist heat at all. So all this time the fire protection module has no PROTECTION in battle whatsoever against heat damage. Nice one devs, anymore little cons you would like to disclose to the players. Unless they give back proper fire resistance in the protection module, IB is now totally useless and cannot be used in battle, not with any meaningful effect. Vulcan like the game is now dead, yet the real OP issues never get looked at and are left OP until they no longer have a monetary value within the game. The devs are con artists/deceivers and the players are the mark, yet many players still give them a big thumbs up, especially the mods.

It's about as valid as the FLYING MONKEY. You just don't get it do you. Never mind, most of the players that post on here don't either so your not alone.

Sorry amigo but your idea is pants. But hey don't worry, in the not to distant future, just like every single thing the devs bring into the game, mines eventually will get nerfed into oblivion. This is a fact you can count on.

Personally hope these new prices are SKY HIGH. Come on devs don't let me down, nice and high because i don't play anymore ? What a joke this game has turned into. I hope they are especially high for getto and his chumps ?

When it happens i will buy the popcorn for you. I just hope they skint the buyers first, it's what they deserve for being dumb enough to fall for the devs cons every time.

Which is how it was in the beginning, but when the devs made fire protection useless in combatting overheating they substituted it with IB, for lots of cry of course. So if this update is correct then IB can no longer be apart of vulcans arsenal. Devs doing what devs do best, hanging players out to dry.