You taken all this in @thunderhunter123 ( chief stormcloud.) Wake up, give your head a shake and smell the coffee. @thunderhunter123 Try having a serious think before you post anything concerning the devs, and their ability to put players first without asking for cash. Your that desperate to be a mod the devs can do no wrong as far as you are concerned. What a joke.

Eventually, maybe couple years like hornet. The devs will only nerf it (? ) when they see a profit in doing so, like introducing the next OP update to compensate for the nerf (if that ever happens.) The thought process behind EVERYTHING the devs do is centred around $$$$, EVERYTHING. These are the FACTS. TO is now truly BROKE. BALANCE and at least attempting to think about the majority of players, was and has been for a very long time, wholly abandoned, thrown on the TO scrapheap, locked away never to resurface again. I post FACTS, not blithering nonsense. I post what i see in battle. I post home truths that some take offence to (tuff.) I'm not some muddled headed buffon that sees no wrong in whatever the devs do, like some certain players that post on here. The intelligent players that post on here should be acknowledged, yes even some of the mods, and acted on by the devs to improve TO for the benefit of the majority (not the minority.) The devs imo never take on board refreshing, well thought out ideas by those players who actually no what they are doing. (battle scenarios, not stupid skins, shot effects.) As long as the hardcore P2W chavs keep spending, the devs will carry on with their OP updates and ignore all aspects of balance. Try listing every update over the last 2 years and see if it has affected balance in a positive way. Good luck with that 1. I give you ZERO % chance of coming up with anything that actually benefited players (IN BATTLE) that did not cost a dime. Skins, effects, graphics, etc, do not count. Getting gear for cry does not count. I'm after something, anything the devs ever did to improve game balance (IN BATTLE) where they did not ask for any cash to effect said changes, are hid it behind a smokescreen. I'm talking absolute freebie that enhanced the balance for the majority of players (IN BATTLE) simply because it was the right thing to do by the players. Like i said, GOOD LUCK.

Wrong. The devs were thinking $$$$$ when they came up with this idea. The devs are so transparent a child can see through their methods for bringing in every single one of their OP updates. Of course there are certain players who don't even have the smarts of your average 5 yr old when posting on the forum. Wonder who they might be........

Novel idea, but like gold boxes it will only distract the kids and the noob headed players to abandon all reason concerning the battle, and you will get the inevitable pile up of tanks fighting for it. But yeah go for it, TO is already screwed beyond repair with the multitude of OP gimmicks currently in battle.

You ever heard of clouded judgement, you have the mother of all storm clouds permanently ingrained into your head. Nuff sed.

When it comes to TO, do the devs do right by the players.

How about adjusting the FLYING HACK, like get rid of it for good.

Of course it's OP, devs will make their cash by the fools buying ultras to get the crit protection. Same old, same old.

The mouthpiece for the devs has his garage handed to him free. Flying hacks is all he knows, along with the rest of his sidekicks. They endorse legal cheating, nothing a normal player can do about it. Best advice, leave those legal hacks to fight it out amongst themselves. You can't compete against such OP gear. You use a legal hack, you are a cheat as far as i'm concerned, pure waste of space.

My garage is all maxed out MK7. Makes no difference at all. Trust me, this is only going to get worse as the weeks roll by. All these cash driven gimmicks have wrecked TO beyond repair. On top of the FLYING HACK, we now have all this crap to contend with. Gonna be a lot of F2P on the scrap heap in all but a very, very small % of battles. Nice one hazel.

You so hit the nail on the head. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. This is all the devs care about. As long as the cash keeps keeps rolling in, game play, balance, rank spreads, EVERYTHING is of a secondary nature and of little concern to the devs. Out of 4 accounts i regularly played i only play one now, my main. Even then it's only missions then i stop. Devs want to ruin game play with their OP updates, then i truly hope more players follow suit and cut their game time down considerably like me, and cease to invest in this shambles ever again with anything above the price of 1 speedboost. The devs are parasitic in their nature. They will NEVER put balance (game play) above their own selfish duplicitous ways. These are the facts. F:N.....I do not want any mod spouting game economy to me in response to this post, it's becoming so lame and very boring as a excuse for everything the devs do that further deplete game balance, all in favour of the select few, P2W, YOUTUBERS, TO STAFF.

Very simple to answer that statement. CASH. No other reason exists for augments, that are any other gimmick the devs have brought into the game. The devs may tell us their reasons behind such updates, but as always it's a smokescreen for the real reason, CASH. Protection modules do not affect gameplay at all, not in the way you are suggesting. And to be honest 50% protections are weak without some other form of protection, ie:- drones, immunities, augments, etc. The devs have made protection modules obsolete, unless you combine them with other (just as expensive) back ups. I tried this out in 1 battle on my main awhile back ( no drone, no augment, no immunity, no nothing, just protections) and i got slaughtered quite a few times within the first 2 minutes. Worst offenders were fire, vulcan, shaft, (obvs) twins. Any turret would have killed me easily to be honest. Protection modules have lost their unique ability to stave off damage the way they used to. They are a secondary form of defence, which only really come to the fore when equipped alongside the gimmicks the devs provide for us, for lots of cash of course. These are the FACTS. New update (gimmick) = more cash for the devs. Try going into battle as i did with just protections equipped, you won't last 30 secs. These are the sad facts. Devs will always find some new way to extract cash from the players, regardless how it affects game play.

Possibly not true methinks. Could be france HMMMMM then again.

Why don't you ask getto to fight you. He can use his FLYING HACK, seeing as how overdrives are turned off. Lets see how how good he is without the legal cheats OP overdrive? ?

I always knew they were a lot more than the measly % they claimed they only had protection from. It's all a smokescreen to wrangle yet more cash out of players. Utter garbage introducing crit hit for all turrets, we didn't need it. Why not just NERF the OP gear in the first place and balance the game out that way. Why do the devs bring in OP updates at all, CASH. If any player believes this nonsense then you are easily fooled. @Marcus Do us all a favour and find other employment somewhere else. And failing that, try starting a new account without having a maxed out garage handed to you on a plate. Play as a F2P player and find out just how hard it is to compete in this OP game you endorse so much. The only ones you fool are the kids who are glued to their mobiles 24/7.... bravo for that. Ahh we no the reason. C A S H

And it's official, MM just went down the pan. Your on a weakened team forget all about winning, just never, ever going to happen. The amount of AP crap out there, along with leaving you with no armour whatsoever, coupled with these new pathetic updates has just made my mind up. I'm on level 47 in the challenge, once that's done the next challenge is just not gonna happen. Devs have hung themselves as far as i am concerned. I was miles ahead of anyone on my team and done everything, to no avail. Practically getting one shotted by a lame thunder/hornet, even with 50% against him was of no use when AP is applied. That is with defender maxed out to. Devs can shove TO where the sun don't shine. Think i will become a cheat as the devs endorse it with their FLYING HACK.

You present a nice and well thought out answer and somewhat countered my argument. Somewhat is not good enough though, and as your playing devils advocate, i will counter you with a counter, counter. All these OP imbalances could have been avoided if the devs had thought it through. Now i understand all about game economy, and yes it is needed in order to maintain TO and keep it viable for all concerned, but the devs have went about it all wrong (from a players perspective) If they have to introduce OP updates, keep them infrequent and maybe not as OP as they have been. Attach a sale onto them and make the update worthwhile for the majority of players. When i say a sale, i mean one which the less fortunate players can benefit from also. As much as i criticise the devs (for good reason) i no they are intelligent and therefore should be able to generate cash, AND balance the game out way more than it currently is. Putting cash into TO is not a problem for me, the reason i stopped a long time ago to a large extent is because the game is just way over the top with OP gimmicks. Battles are cluttered and more often than not one sided, with the OP players totally dominating. It will only get worse with battles becoming meaningless for most players because quite simply, they just can't compete on the same level as the buyers. The amount of times i see players on either side leaving, with the spaces not getting filled up is becoming more frequent. TO has major flaws, not just with balancing, but with the huge amount of cash they ask for, for their SPECIAL BUNDLES. They keep doing this and they will inevitably price themselves out with all but a few hardened P2W stalwarts. TO is a mess and awash with far to many OP gimmicks, it needs a semblance of stability, all these OP updates will not remedy a game that is only aimed at P2W.

They are killing the game with all these OP gimmicks. It's rather shallow that they resort every time to cash based strategies to keep it afloat. It's called a quick fix, with limited imagination as to how to enhance the game without resorting to cash updates EVERY SINGLE TIME. TO will eventually go under due to the ever increasing cash fix that the devs demand. P2W players will only spend for so long, until they realise that the game is beyond playable, that's because of the increasing difficulty of getting anywhere in battle, because it is overcrowded with OP game changers. I used to play 4 accounts, now down to 1. I never ever do points missions, are damage missions over 70.000. I never, ever try to complete their special missions, because it exacts to much from your account for very feeble rewards. The devs are slowly sending TO to the grave. 130€ for their special bundle. Give me a break and get real. All that money for what? A few dodgy containers and a god awful looking paint. My main is maxed out everything that i use, and yet no doubt in the coming months , unless i spend some cash, are find that the end of the rainbow is indeed in my garden, it will be obsolete with more, and more OP updates flooding the game. They constantly bring in OP updates, then expect players to spend FORTUNES on them. Game balance means everything. The devs left balance in the TO scrapyard a very, very long time ago.

Yip you deff missed something. I could go on a right bender and text wall you to death, but i will keep it simple and to the point. The devs did what they have done for CASH, simple as that. There you go, short, factual, and to the point.

Simple answer.........................CASH.

More fool you for acquiring OVER 600 naff ultras, which by the way are anything but ultra.

Bye.

Is it? Seems the P2W chavs lap it up every time. Devs no this. They will keep bringing in these kind of updates because there will always be P2W chavs that the devs can and always will, exploit. The devs will win every time because these empty headed players cannot see past their own dominance in battle.

Real update are not? who cares, the game is already broken beyond repair. I personally hope it's real.

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