Gotta admit I have seen it done.

Learn your lesson. They will rip you off at every turn. What do you mean "we'll see how it goes". It's blatantly obvious how anything goes in this game. OP gear then nerf, buff, nerf, rip players off and start over with more OP gear and add an event into the mix to add to the rip off experience. We'll see how it goes ? seriously.

Get rid of augments and floating trashcans. Fix every bug/glitch so it stays fixed permanently, then get rid of the entire dev team and start again. There you go, every day is now a tanki day.

What a chew on. Never gonna happen.

I would call it pointing out the facts why this game has went to rat crap. The devs hold all the cards apart from the aces which the players HAVE, but they will not for a multitude of reasons use them.

Not any team I was in they couldn't, not unless they hacked, which like I said was common back then. There will always be "weak" players on a team that a maxed out drugger can eliminate with ease, but to say the game back then was dominated more by druggers than it is now by OP augments and the floating trashcans is utter nonsense. Let's have a scenario. Back in the day:- Hunter/rico with useless paint protection and turret maxed, but hull only at 50%. Goes up against a maxed out gizmo constantly drugging, outcome, rico gets demolished in 3 seconds. Todays game:- Same combo (meaning weak player) goes up against maxed out OPd to the teeth 250 LEGEND outcome, 50/50. Now if you can't work out why the second scenario is 50/50 then I give up, but I'm sure you can. As for the trashcans. They still dominate capping battles, this is a fact.

Seriously. The only "power" any player had was the ability to drug constantly and max out his PAINT PROTECTION, which was always offset (in my experience) by players on the opposite team doing exactly the same. Players left when clans used to take over random battles because they worked together and were usually on voice, which is a major advantage. There was no OP crap to buy but HACKING was a major problem back then and cheats got away with a lot, just like the trashcan cheats do now. TO has improved a great deal over the years but because of the greed associated with those in charge it has went to rat crap. It will never improve while their greed dominates over everything else. The only players who come out on top with this OP crap are the maxed out Legends and the buyers, both to some extent go hand in hand with each other. The stupidest sight in tanki, almost everything.

You never mentioned master sergeant. Amassing 100K cry at that rank is nigh on impossible "UNLESS" you buy, or get unbelievably lucky with the useless devalued containers. No offence and not to say that you are not telling the truth, but if you engage me in battle with brutus and no meaningful protections the outcome is only gonna go one way and it won't be in your favour. Brutus is a pile of crap after W05, maybe even before that rank and It's the augments that dictate a lot of battles along with the legal trashcan hacks. It used to be skilled base back in the day. Yes "back in the day" was mostly down to drugs and who had the most, but it was also down to teamwork when there actually was "TEAMWORK" amongst players on a very regular basis, especially those players who were on voice chat together. This was at the height of the clan era in TO that has now all but disappeared. Clans now have no meaning whatsoever in the game. Skill has been overtaken by all the OP crap in the game like augments and the legal hack trashcans. Who would have thought that shaft would become a healer, what a joke. Who would have thought we would have flying tanks, another complete joke. Who would have thought that every turret can now mimic each other, meaning there really is nothing "unique" about any turret now, another joke. There is still skill in the game, but It's nowhere near the level it used to be because of the OP crap that has made it all to easy to 1 shot anything. The key is to make the cry gained in battle at least twice, if not three times more than the XP gained. Also make it so that you need at least twice the XP to rank, all the way to marshal. This would sort out the rank differences with ease. MM is not and never has been balanced, end of.

Same here.

I have brutus fully upgraded on my W01 acc, along with a MK4 rail and a MK4 dictator. I only have 2 protections, rail and smoky. I currently have 15,000 cry but to upgrade any more equipment, including any I unlock at future ranks will take at least 1000,000 cry with a 50% sale. Earning crystals to upgrade is extremely hard and is dependant on playing the game for many hrs a day, which has a detrimental side effect of ranking way to quickly and being outgunned in the process. It's catch 22. Your cannon fodder whatever you do because of the pathetic ranking system were you earn way more XP than cry. This system has been left "as is" because it forces players either to spend cash are be worse than useless in battle. @Jeers4U Has every right to complain because the system/game is broken and the devs know this, because It's the devs that have deliberately made it this way to extract as much cash from players as possible. It's funny because I was thinking the same thing. The game is down to those who "HAVE" and those who do not. I believe congo falls into the former. Buyer are not, who knows. Because MM is crap. It has never worked from day one. The game in It's entirety is flawed and broken, because that's how the devs want it. Spot on. Straight from hazels own mouthpiece.

So many players complaining about the trash in space event and yet, you still participate in it and that means the devs win yet again......unbelievable.

Because your brainwashed into doing so and the devs know this.

You should have taken my advice regardless of the price, but players never do. Blind and 100% hooked on the game, just the way the devs like it. Lemons going over the cliff, one goes the rest follow. You just never learn so deserve every shady, dodgy, scam, con the devs throw your way. Enjoy your prizes, because it's like preaching to the proverbial brick wall, were in fact most walls are way smarter. You just never learn and as for the "being blind" scenario, yeah, whatever.

The stupidity is all on the players that fall for this con. Devs know exactly what they are doing, what they have always done, manipulate the players with ease into buying into their swindle. I wonder how many will still participate. Every player should realise now that anything the devs do is a monumental scam aimed at getting your cash, and yet there are those that still indulge them, bigger fools them. On a lighter note. I personally think 700tk is a fair amount and even 1000 would be ok. That's because I have a functioning brain and never get involved in these child like cash grabs. Good luck to all those complaining who will still take part I'm sure hazel will be rooting for you.....?

From WO1 to General make it so you gain X2 more crystals than XP and also increase the XP needed for each new rank by 25,000 XP. This must have change would give players the chance to 1-stay at their rank longer 2-have a much higher chance of going into battles against their own rank due to staying at that rank for much longer and 3-give them more time to save crystals to upgrade their garage before the next rank-up. This is a valid and very sound idea and I see no reason why it should not be implemented asap.

So that's 500 good ideas by players that would improve the game that have not been implemented yet? Is that what you are saying, because my post was about implementing good, solid ideas (not lame ones involving shot effects/are new shiny useless skins etc) that were put forward BY PLAYERS THAT WOULD IMPROVE THE GAME WITHOUT ANY DETRIMENTAL AFFECT ON THE ECONOMY. So, are we still on the same page or have you just spouted off something half thought out to try and counter my post. I provide evidence about the shoddy nature and failings of the game through playing and observing the effects all these OP updates have on players in battles, myself included. You as yet have provided no evidence to back up your claims in defence of "THE GAME". Hazel has in my opinion never made it easy for players to interact with the game on any level even remotely close to being fair/balanced. Face it mod F2P is a made up word by the devs designed to trick players into trying the game out and hopefully with careful manipulation make them spend cash....REAL WORLD....ACKNOWLEDE IT and stop pretending the devs take notice of what players say, because they do not. PLANNED Make new players able to choose paint This by the way is a waste of valuable time and resources. From WO1 to General make it so you gain X2 more crystals than XP and also increase the XP needed for each new rank by 25,000 XP. This must have change would give players the chance to 1-stay at their rank longer 2-have a much higher chance of going into battles against their own rank due to staying at that rank for much longer and 3-give them more time to save crystals to upgrade their garage before the next rank-up. This is a valid and very sound idea and I see no reason why it should not be implemented asap. There you go mod, a good sensible idea that will never be introduced to the game because they think choosing paints is way more important. Let me stop you right there. Your response to my post would be different if you ponder for a moment longer what I was implying.

So funny that you mentioned rules. If you older than 13 years of age, and under the age of 18, you may use the Game only under the supervision of a parent or legal guardian who agrees to be bound by this EULA and any additional terms contained in related documents . Just some real world stuff i thought I'd point out. Where in the real world does a parent/guardian watch their kid for hours on end while they play a game on their comp......doesn't exist, ergo this rule is just some garbage to keep them legal, nothing else, real world mod. OMG. I did not imply that you implied/wrote this in a post. Again you misinterpret my post. I claimed that prices were to high, I never said you did. I said you seemed not to care about it. I said nothing about you saying the prices were to high. How about reading my posts slowly so you understand what has been written before you reply, or you could just get an adult to supervise you as the EULA advises. I will never be in your club mod and to the best of my knowledge I don't think I have ever given a date for the demise of TO. By bringing in someone who acknowledges the fact that players have on occasion put forward some very good ideas to improve the game, without affecting the economy and being savvy enough to implement some of these ideas.

Earning rewards is not beneficial if at the same time you rank at a blistering pace, leaving your garage unable to compete because of the ENORMOUS amounts of crystals you need to upgrade. The game is over priced at every level, this is a UNDENIABLE FACT. It's a fact you seem to not understand/care about. This is a common problem with the majority of players now who are pushing towards Legend rank and It's a problem I solved quite awhile back, but as usual it got ignored because of their unwavering GREED. Show the proof then. You either do no and your not admitting it, or you really don't, which says a lot for your intellect. Let me explain. The real world. Devs manipulating players to spend cash. It does not matter one jot that this is a game we are discussing because it affects players in real world sense, ie the cash they invest in the game, although It's not really an investment you would like to take on "in the real world" because the items you invest in become worse than useless via the nerfing process the devs do on a regular bases to make way for the next OP generating cash update. Also the devs never acting on anything worthwhile that players suggest because it might upset their precious economy. As far as the game goes concerning players the devs are a waste of space. You really do not get it do you because you are so biased concerning the devs. The game has died. The game died because of many mitigating factors, all of which have been pointed out on numerous occasions. The company is doing ok but the game has descended into a complicated, augment infested, over priced, money grabbing piece of garbage. That last sentence sums it up just right. Try reading between the lines and view the game from your average players perspective and not your position as a mod who is handed freebies on a regular bases, unlike the rest of us who struggle to upgrade even one combo and will never have a maxed out garage because it costs way to much. How players rank and the rewards for doing so need re-adjusting asap. This would be a small but much needed step in the right direction and alleviate the problem of high ranked players having a G/S comparable to a WO5, basically cannon fodder. The game is not player friendly, not unless you have wads of cash to throw away on a regular bases, another UNDENIABLE FACT.

@Committee You make some good points and I personally believe some of them are based on fact, observational fact by playing the game for a number of years. Here's the crux of the game as a whole in it's entirety, GREED. The list of changes they have done over the years that affect players in a negative way are endless. By negative I mean the ways they have derived to swindle cash out of the players with almost every update the bring in, and yeah swindle is a very apt word to describe what they do. The devs will never act on sensible, well thought out alternatives to improve the game, because THEY REALLY do not give a toss what players think are say/write in the forum. This is an undeniable FACT. This game like every other internet based game is a business and to that end they will continue to bring in pathetic updates that appeal (those they target) to two types of players only:- children (who don't know any better) and buyers, with more money than brain cells. That may be the OFFICIAL and dare I say it correct description of the game but, there is always a "but", in the REAL WORLD that is so far from the truth and you know it is. Adapting is one thing, the constant nerf/buff/nerf/buff/nerf, etc X infinity is a diabolical ploy to swindle cash out of players and you know it is. Just remember there are players in this forum that easily see through your? biased comments. No it's not. It's childlike and causes any amount of lag because their useless servers can't handle all this weally, weally cool stuff. Another "UNDENIABLE FACT". This part I agree with. Some of the new augments are overpowered to such an extent that they may as well be hacks. It's ridiculous One of the very few things we will ever agree on. And the devs will continue to FAIL it's player base, another UNDENIABLE FACT. So true. As a player my opinion on why Tanki X failed was due to them NOT ALLOWING players to switch their accounts to it, meaning they had to start from scratch. Was never, ever gonna happen. Once again their abject GREED was coming to the fore, this greed poleaxed Tanki X and I'm really pleased it went bottoms up. Their behaviour is dictated by cash, nothing else. THIS IS A UNDENIABLE FACT. You call it "smart". I have other words to describe their tactics, but I would most likely get a ban from the ever watchful ? brigade. So UNDENIABLY true. So very, very, very true. You reading this hazel. ? This is priceless. Non existent, just like game balance. ? Nice analogy. Which is the downfall of many players when hitting the higher ranks because their garage is so pathetically weak, just the way hazel wants it. It INCENTIFIES players to spend cash. I agree. Augments have crippled the game beyond repair along with the floating trashcans. Legend rank now has no meaning and ranking after Legend rank has no reward (1 container/key is a farcical joke) THE GAME HAS BECOME A JOKE. Nail on head. I am finding it very hard to disagree with anything you have written so far. Can't wait for the ? bedroom warriors to try and stifle this with some biased drivel. I disagree........................It's not that good. "he will not come on the forum on the weekends" Praise the LORD for small mercies. ? Really couldn't help myself there. Lies. If your saying that most players are under the age of 18 then, mmmmm, probs true. Of course everyone knows that kids do not "on their own" generate cash, adults do. The devs target adults and put up with the kids because they boost numbers. There is a way to "reflect" the player base and what they actually think of this P2W only mess. Before any player logs in have a vote button with YES/NO, It's a very simple concept. The all important question. Is TO a fair and enjoyable game that lives up to It's title, FREE MMO GAME and do the devs respect and act on players views concerning important aspects of the game. Hits the nail on the proverbial head nevertheless. No It's not so stop using kids as your get out of jail free, yawn, so biased, so predictable. ? Anyone with a brain cell can see It's not meant for devs. It was meant as a tongue-in-cheek dig at how crappy the game had become. So flippant. Keep up the good work of defending this FREE, enjoyable and fair minded game. Big ? Easy one to answer. GREED and you know it is. Think I mentioned that to. I also gave his reason for doing so. Again, strongly agree. Motivation behind this:- GREED. Agree. He has a history of not reading/understanding posts properly that are written by adults. just saying like. Nah your reading it right. Like their MM balance, It's an alien concept. Kind of disagree with you on this. TO loses players BECAUSE of the crazy, OP updates and the fact It's pricing system has went up by huge factors. Again that word GREED is the overriding factor and always will be. You taking notes hazel, because you should. Agree, but this is offset by the astronomical amount of crystals needed to upgrade "ANYTHING" in your garage, especially drones and that useless armadillo protection, which is a waste of space due to all the OP, crappy augments that take you out in the blink of an eye. Strongly agree. I suggested quite a long time ago that at Legend rank they should give you targets to hit and reward you accordingly. My post not surprisingly got ignored and Legend status now has no meaning, regardless what low ranked players might think. Most players that are nearing Legend rank now will have weak garages and will be cannon fodder for the older/more seasoned ENDGAME players. Unfortunately this will never happen, I forgot the word that describes this never happening, begins with G I think. Sorry but disagree. I hate this concept and It's just another childish gimmick. Agree. Nothing on page 2 to comment about so that's me done.

I'm not a scorpion player, but if it's as good as what players are saying then the nerf will deff happen. This is the devs favourite ploy to get you to buy into their events and players fall for it every time.

There are some hard core campers that actually do target the enemy in a proficient and skillful way that predominantly benefits both the camper and the team. A skillful camper watches out for the enemy players that are the biggest threat to the team and deals accordingly with them, ie, obliterating the crap out of them. I have been a 100% camper for years now and will continue to do so as I refuse to engage the enemy head on when realistically, the survival rate is very, very poor due to all the crappy augments in the game. Augments along with floating trashcans have destroyed the game, so as far as I'm concerned, camping is the best way to avoid this OP crap.

LOL. So very true. What you are asking for requires 10 HAIL MARY'S and a couple of miracles thrown in for good measure. Basically what you are asking for is "THE IMPOSSIBLE".

Not mines but rather when it's flimsy overdrive is activated and you drive into the enemy, you 100% always get flipped.

@ByeByePompei The game is designed to force you to spend cash, if you do not, then your cannon fodder and the devs could care less. They have intentionally made the game this way and by doing so have ruined it beyond repair. Their greed has no limits.

Aw are the nasty, wasty horrible mines causing you problems with your flying trashcan hack.....tuff. The game has disintegrated into a kill fest and campers prevail by laying mines because of augments, no other reason. Why try and do the objective when a host of OP augments trash you in the blink of an eye. To camp is to avoid this pathetic nonsense were augments can destroy you very, very easily. The devs have ruined the game with augments. The miner augment is just the latest addition to be implemented into their cash grab philosophy. Here is a novel thought. Get rid of ALL augments along with the TRASH CANS and you will have a better game. Not asking for much are you. There is mammoth, titan and the protection module to counter mines, this is more than enough. There is also lifeguard and the repair kit.