Let's Discuss Mammoth!

[Xsader 37]

Mammoth is a heavy, armoured and slow hull and as such its purpose is soly a defender.

 

To use mammoth to capture flags is the same as using isida to kill enemies - this contradicts to the very essence of why these items had been introduced.

[Dopamine 2,161]

It is much more preferable to use it with trickster.

In situations where you have a completely mined enemy base, it often becomes the only way of breaking through and stealing the flag.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 11/28/2023 at 6:08 AM, Xsader said:

To use mammoth to capture flags is the same as using isida to kill enemies

It really isn't. 

[Tekken 374]

It would be good if mammoth OD worked without problems because lot of times dead body will flip you upside down and because of that you have to sometimes slow down to not flip. Most of the time dead body under mammoth will do that... because it tends to throw tanks away (lift them up) how about it destroys dead body so it dissapears ? Also you wanna use trickster with it, its most effective, many people will outrun you without it. 

[MEXICAN-SKY 308]

Mammoth's overdrive when it first came out was very good and offset it's useless turn of speed and (for a supposed "HEAVY TANK") it's useless armour.

Mammoths OD is now useless, just like the protection "it's supposed to give".

Unless you are right on top of an enemy tank within the first 1 or2 seconds, then the OD does absolutely nothing to prevent YOU from becoming the tank that is killed. 

Augments and the continuous parameter changes the devs keep making have ruined the game.

 

[Hroft 11]

Mammoth with crisis have almost wasp's speed and a bit less with trickster. Immune for mines, and incredible damage with OD in close range.. U just need speed to deliver it. With pulsar freeze it's become a very fan combo. I use it pretty often in CTF 

p.s actually, here is 2 extreme options: wasp + defender or mammoth + trickster/crisis. Trickster is better sometimes, because it's hard to manage supplies in close battle and on armour/damage mode u lose your speed, witch is the key in such setup

[2shots2kills 2,364]

Most fun OD in the game, change my mind. 

https://www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkx4SVWalGC3WvNWa8WCDm6jSSmMfBRkVFd

 

Edit: and yes, you do need Trickster. 

Edited November 29, 2023 by 2shots2kills

[ShadowBreath 20]

I don't understand why everyone is saying Trickster instead of Defender. I use Mammoth regularly and if you wanna use it's overdrive well and to it's max potential, you usually go from behind and then to open field and run people down. Unlike what most people thinkz Mammoth should not be used in face to face where people see you. It is most effective if you sneak up on people with it, especially in the enemy's base. Then people can shoot you from all sorts of places and defender comes in clutch to save you. I definitely recommend still going for defender. You don't have as much speed, but the survivability is high. As long as you can survive you can make it to enemies base, camp in a hiding spot there and absolutely wreck them with your overdrive from behind. That being said i think Mammoth is still best with crisis, but i can't personally see it being better with trickster than defender. Don't listen to these people and go for it.

[demon09 89]

On 11/29/2023 at 9:55 PM, ShadowBreath said:

I don't understand why everyone is saying Trickster instead of Defender. I use Mammoth regularly and if you wanna use it's overdrive well and to it's max potential, you usually go from behind and then to open field and run people down. Unlike what most people thinkz Mammoth should not be used in face to face where people see you. It is most effective if you sneak up on people with it, especially in the enemy's base. Then people can shoot you from all sorts of places and defender comes in clutch to save you. I definitely recommend still going for defender. You don't have as much speed, but the survivability is high. As long as you can survive you can make it to enemies base, camp in a hiding spot there and absolutely wreck them with your overdrive from behind. That being said i think Mammoth is still best with crisis, but i can't personally see it being better with trickster than defender. Don't listen to these people and go for it.

I'll try that. Destrotank, who seems like a good player from what they wrote, also recommended either defender or trickster for mammoth. I love to sneak close to the enemy and snipe them with shaft and try to survive for as long as I can in a hiding spot, so your tactic sounds like fun to me.

On 11/29/2023 at 7:11 PM, 2shots2kills said:

Most fun OD in the game, change my mind. 

https://www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkx4SVWalGC3WvNWa8WCDm6jSSmMfBRkVFd

 

Edit: and yes, you do need Trickster. 

Check out this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU74R6nKJfE

[Potdindy 866]

So...Id love to get some use out of mammoth but not sure how to play it vs titan. Titan seems very good as a mid fielder, so does mammoth play well on defense?

[Dumbledore6969 243]

On 11/11/2023 at 12:28 PM, demon09 said:

I like using Mammoth's OD, despite that Ares is the best heavy, but I also want to get Defender. Will Mammoth be too slow in the top ranks to kill tanks and capture flags with its OD?

Topic merged

[ok_hand 95]

Is Mammoth even good without Driver?

[Potdindy 866]

On 12/21/2024 at 12:42 PM, ok_hand said:

Is Mammoth even good without Driver?

I know mammoth doesn't see much play, but there's something very satisfying about using its overdrive. Smashing into enemy tanks or crashing over them always feels so good.

[ChewBoonHao 6]

On 7/11/2013 at 3:29 AM, HighwindsGDN said:

Mammoth is great for everything once u get it to m2.  You have to drug to get flags, but its VERY good at getting flags if you are drugged, otherwise only the occasional flag.  Probably not going to dodge many shots with it but thats ok just use a powerful gun and you won't have to.

Remember when mamooth was workable even without drugs, now you would just be a sitting duck without 50% protection and defender

[Potdindy 866]

Ive been enjoying heavy hulls lately. Titan seems to fulfill more roles than mammoth. Are there mammoth lovers here that could help explain where and when mammoth can outperform titan? Or is titan just better

[ok_hand 95]

On 1/9/2025 at 10:26 PM, Potdindy said:

Ive been enjoying heavy hulls lately. Titan seems to fulfill more roles than mammoth. Are there mammoth lovers here that could help explain where and when mammoth can outperform titan? Or is titan just better

I beg to differ. Titan's OD renders you a sitting duck asking for an enemy OD to destroy you. AP protection is a must for Titan. You don't even have grenade protection from the OD. Therefore, in my eyes, Titan in its current state is for holding key medium-long range LOS to barrage enemies. What roles are you saying would Titan outperform Mammoth?

[Potdindy 866]

On 1/10/2025 at 3:09 PM, ok_hand said:

I beg to differ. Titan's OD renders you a sitting duck asking for an enemy OD to destroy you. AP protection is a must for Titan. You don't even have grenade protection from the OD. Therefore, in my eyes, Titan in its current state is for holding key medium-long range LOS to barrage enemies. What roles are you saying would Titan outperform Mammoth?

From my experience, Titan's dome allows me to post up in a strategic location...sometimes people have overdrives ready, but if not, it allows me to stay alive for a while. I'm not sure where Mammy's OD is best used. I've tended to use it when a freeze/fire chases me down, but outside of that, I often have to actively look for an opportunity to use it, like leaving a safe place to chase down opponents.

Edited January 11 by Potdindy

[ok_hand 95]

On 1/10/2025 at 7:49 PM, Potdindy said:

From my experience, Titan's dome allows me to post up in a strategic location...sometimes people have overdrives ready, but if not, it allows me to stay alive for a while. I'm not sure where Mammy's OD is best used. I've tended to use it when a freeze/fire chases me down, but outside of that, I often have to actively look for an opportunity to use it, like leaving a safe place to chase down opponents.

Because your OD is countered by every other OD, sometimes it's smart to place your OD in a non-objective strategic position so enemies will have to go out of their way to deal with you before they can do the objective. I've never done this myself because I don't have Titan, but I can see this being feasible in Siege if you're using an annoying turret; plopping your shield off-site with an angle to it and shooting endlessly at it. 

 

Without Trickster, Mammy OD is best used to kill anyone annoyingly clinging to you, defending objectives closely, clearing mines, removing status effects, and even just to heal in crucial moments. I don't use OD to hunt kills, even with Trickster. The only time I'm chasing is when I pop OD to act as a player-controlled Ares ball to clear enemies off objectives or enemies with LOS to our objective. Most often, I try to use it to capture objectives or counter an enemy's OD (Wasp, Crusader, Ares, Titan).

[Potdindy 866]

On 1/12/2025 at 12:09 PM, ok_hand said:

Because your OD is countered by every other OD, sometimes it's smart to place your OD in a non-objective strategic position so enemies will have to go out of their way to deal with you before they can do the objective. I've never done this myself because I don't have Titan, but I can see this being feasible in Siege if you're using an annoying turret; plopping your shield off-site with an angle to it and shooting endlessly at it. 

 

Without Trickster, Mammy OD is best used to kill anyone annoyingly clinging to you, defending objectives closely, clearing mines, removing status effects, and even just to heal in crucial moments. I don't use OD to hunt kills, even with Trickster. The only time I'm chasing is when I pop OD to act as a player-controlled Ares ball to clear enemies off objectives or enemies with LOS to our objective. Most often, I try to use it to capture objectives or counter an enemy's OD (Wasp, Crusader, Ares, Titan).

Fantastic analysis. I have blaster for titan not mammy so currently I miss that with Mammy but you make me want to try mammoth out again. Gotta buy and upgrade trickster too