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@Jeers4U You are aware of the effect upgrading a drone has on your performance, right? A 5/20 Saboteur is hurting your effectiveness. You are intended to use Brutus during your progression . It is made cheap to upgrade on purpose. You don't appear to be using it at all according to your ratings profile. 

I'm now seeing part of why you complain quite a lot. 

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On 4/27/2024 at 7:30 PM, TheCongoSpider said:

@Jeers4U You are aware of the effect upgrading a drone has on your performance, right? A 5/20 Saboteur is hurting your effectiveness. You are intended to use Brutus during your progression . It is made cheap to upgrade on purpose. You don't appear to be using it at all according to your ratings profile. 

I'm now seeing part of why you complain quite a lot. 

The problem compounds itself--it's designed that way--as I upgrade, my opponents continually remain out of reach as well.

This isn't rocket science.

Tanki has never been: 'I upgraded my brutus drone to lvl 20 and now i'm kicking A.'

 

I just get put in arenas with even higher ranked GS's as I upgrade my tank.

This isn't my first rodeo.

But I appreciate being summarily dismissed because of a lack of DRONE upgrade.

LOL.

 

And every once in a while, despite tanki's best efforts to the contrary, I do manage to be quite skillfull, pick my spots, be sneaky, and do well--even with my 'complaining' and my 'hurting effectiveness'.

But these battles are rare.

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Again.

If you think upgrading my drone will suddenly make my tank competitive against 6-8k GS, I don't know what to tell you.

Maybe this is why there are STILL people (such as yourself) who think all f2p players need to do is just 'grind' and they'll get everything a paying player does.

 

Clearly. Not.

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On 4/27/2024 at 7:30 PM, TheCongoSpider said:

@Jeers4U You are aware of the effect upgrading a drone has on your performance, right? A 5/20 Saboteur is hurting your effectiveness. You are intended to use Brutus during your progression . It is made cheap to upgrade on purpose. You don't appear to be using it at all according to your ratings profile. 

I'm now seeing part of why you complain quite a lot. 

So, I took your advice and upgraded my brutus to 19 (I don't have access to the crystals money fountain that everyone else who thinks this is a fabulous game has), and gave it a test run.

Did my 'performance' get better?

Was my 'effectiveness' less 'hurt'?

Did I become more successful?

More kills?

Did my team win?

Did it bring the gear scores of my opponents in the match closer together to match mine?

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No. So clearly Brutus upgrades isn't the magical solution you seem to think it is.

 

It's funny because I think you demonstrate a vastly greater knowledge of the game here than most.

But then you come up with literally the most baffling statements which gives me no choice but to believe otherwise.

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@Jeers4U  Its been already explained why I told you to play with fully upgraded (drone)  brutus,  but you seem to ignore everything we said and complain again how this game is unfair. It is, nobody said it is not. But its clearly not just unfair MM as majority of players think and everything else they do is OK. 

 Even I would struggle with lvl 5 drone against  opponents with high GS.  Your supplies are uneffective and you are recieving bigger dmg, you deal less dmg and you are moving slower than everyone with full upgraded drone. You can keep telling yourself that it will not make a change in battle but it wont help your experience either if nothing change. Its clearly from your posts there something is wrong and we said to you that maybe its because of your drone  and you still wanna keep blaming MM instead.

 

Well you are not so low rank anymore and just because you did not upgrade your drone or equipment to have optimum GS for your rank ( = be more competitive) does not mean that your oponents will do same just for you. As I said 5K GS at your rank is optimum, difference between guy with 7K gs and 5K gs is not that huge so you cant kill them, Usually its because they have better drone which give them additional 1K GS  so lot of 7K gs guys you fight have +- 6K GS and thats just minor difference. 

Thats why I said - I can have decend games even when I am facing unfavourable MM without augments. Its not as you said 5:1 ratio. Yes sometimes MM is just crazy and I will leave such match but its more likely one bad MM for 3 decent.  If you expect that everyone in battle will have  same  GS as you then hell no. Just like some 1,5K GS guy can meet you and is being destroyed you can meet some 7,5K GS. 

On 4/28/2024 at 4:56 AM, Jeers4U said:

So, I took your advice and upgraded my brutus to 19 (I don't have access to the crystals money fountain that everyone else who thinks this is a fabulous game has), and gave it a test run.

 First of all, why did you upgraded drone for full price? You should wait few days for sale.... in next friday probably there will be 30 % off

 you  were complaining that you dont have enough crystals, here is few tips

 - Always upgrade during sales. (brutus drone may be exception but anyway) 

 - Focus on 1-2 turrets that are good for you and dont upgrade others so you have more GS at your rank. / Same for hulls (one medium and  one light or heavy) 

- I strongly suggest you to upgrade one medium hull (if track hull then Hunter, if hover then crusader)  

- Playing with  Wasp  with lvl  5 drone sounds like a kamikadze plan.

 - on your profile you have firebird and freeze,  two meele range turrets, you should pick one and upgrade only one not wasting crystals  on another, same goes for shaft and magnum (pick one and focus on it)  In this case I would suggest shaft, thats a lot better.  Imo one short/medium range turret is very good to have, you have smoky but only Mk3 so that could be better.

On 4/28/2024 at 4:56 AM, Jeers4U said:

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If this is unfair for you how about that two guys in your team with 1800 GS ? For them its very unfair, for you?? Nah buddy there is only one "OP" guy and it is that 8K gs guy and it seems like he did not play good, 6/3 with blaster and freeze for this kind of MM means only two things, he is either noob or he joined at the end of battle, I think its second option but at least you have screenshot so you can have complain about bad MM. Biggest problem in this match is that One guy with faust he has clearly OP augment  but he has not better equipment than you, he has short range augment and you have shaft.

Imo if that one 8K GS did not join battle at the end then this was very fair MM for YOU ! (not for poor 1,8K low rank guys)  

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On 4/28/2024 at 11:43 AM, Tekken8 said:

 Its been already explained why I told you to play with fully upgraded (drone)  brutus,  but you seem to ignore everything we said and complain again how this game is unfair.

On 4/27/2024 at 10:56 PM, Jeers4U said:

So, I took your advice and upgraded my brutus to 19 (I don't have access to the crystals money fountain that everyone else who thinks this is a fabulous game has), and gave it a test run.

 

On 4/28/2024 at 11:43 AM, Tekken8 said:

But its clearly not just unfair MM as majority of players think and everything else they do is OK.

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On 4/28/2024 at 11:43 AM, Tekken8 said:

 Even I would struggle with lvl 5 drone against  opponents with high GS.  Your supplies are uneffective and you are recieving bigger dmg, you deal less dmg and you are moving slower than everyone with full upgraded drone. You can keep telling yourself that it will not make a change in battle but it wont help your experience either if nothing change. Its clearly from your posts there something is wrong and we said to you that maybe its because of your drone  and you still wanna keep blaming MM instead.

On 4/27/2024 at 10:56 PM, Jeers4U said:

So clearly Brutus upgrades isn't the magical solution you seem to think it is.

On 4/27/2024 at 7:55 PM, Jeers4U said:

as I upgrade, my opponents continually remain out of reach as well.

I just get put in arenas with even higher ranked GS's as I upgrade my tank.

 

Again.

If you think upgrading my drone will suddenly make my tank competitive against 6-8k GS, I don't know what to tell you.

 

 

On 4/28/2024 at 11:43 AM, Tekken8 said:

Well you are not so low rank anymore and just because you did not upgrade your drone or equipment to have optimum GS for your rank ( = be more competitive) does not mean that your oponents will do same just for you. As I said 5K GS at your rank is optimum, difference between guy with 7K gs and 5K gs is not that huge so you cant kill them, Usually its because they have better drone which give them additional 1K GS  so lot of 7K gs guys you fight have +- 6K GS and thats just minor difference. 

On 4/27/2024 at 6:54 PM, Jeers4U said:

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On 4/28/2024 at 11:43 AM, Tekken8 said:

Its not as you said 5:1 ratio. Yes sometimes MM is just crazy and I will leave such match but its more likely one bad MM for 3 decent.  If you expect that everyone in battle will have  same  GS as you then hell no.

On 4/27/2024 at 6:54 PM, Jeers4U said:

The number of games I leave vs stay and play for any length of time is at least 5:1.

 

 

 

On 4/28/2024 at 11:43 AM, Tekken8 said:

 you  were complaining that you dont have enough crystals, here is few tips

On 4/27/2024 at 7:55 PM, Jeers4U said:

This isn't my first rodeo.

 

 

On 4/27/2024 at 7:55 PM, Jeers4U said:

Again.

If you think upgrading my drone will suddenly make my tank competitive against 6-8k GS, I don't know what to tell you.

 

I just get put in arenas with even higher ranked GS's as I upgrade my tank.

 

 

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On 4/28/2024 at 9:06 PM, Jeers4U said:

So, I took your advice and upgraded my brutus to 19 (I don't have access to the crystals money fountain that everyone else who thinks this is a fabulous game has), and gave it a test run.

on a new account i got lvl 20 brutus at WO1. could've done it couple ranks earlier but event mode made it so there is no reason for me to do it. my biggest container drop was 10k crystals once by then and i had crusader and gauss upgraded as much as it allowed me.

normal MM at mini-ranks is just old tanki. slow. boring. whoever drugs first wins.

then its kinda balanced with random guy that is 50 ranks above everyone though i didn't find them to be an issue actually. 

MM is trash but if you play smart you'll have no problem.

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It's fun reading all the vague and 'kinda' and sorta' and 'can have's' and all the other anectodal meandering explanations and excuses for tanki's shortcomings.

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On 4/28/2024 at 11:25 AM, Jeers4U said:

It's fun reading all the vague and 'kinda' and sorta' and 'can have's' and all the other anectodal meandering explanations and excuses for tanki's shortcomings.

Yeah, this game is definitely not worth putting effort into when it wont do the same thing for you. I'm willing to put the game at risk of shutting down just by convincing other players to find another game that actually listens to their players.

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On 4/28/2024 at 4:56 AM, Jeers4U said:

So, I took your advice and upgraded my brutus to 19 (I don't have access to the crystals money fountain that everyone else who thinks this is a fabulous game has), and gave it a test run.

Did my 'performance' get better?

Was my 'effectiveness' less 'hurt'?

Did I become more successful?

More kills?

Did my team win?

Did it bring the gear scores of my opponents in the match closer together to match mine?

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No. So clearly Brutus upgrades isn't the magical solution you seem to think it is.

 

It's funny because I think you demonstrate a vastly greater knowledge of the game here than most.

But then you come up with literally the most baffling statements which gives me no choice but to believe otherwise.

Basing opinion off 1 map is crazy


You traded + - 60% boost in armor/damage for a 97% (by maxing Brutus)

And if you can't afford to max Brutus then too bad

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On 4/28/2024 at 8:16 PM, Kimura said:

on a new account i got lvl 20 brutus at WO1. could've done it couple ranks earlier but event mode made it so there is no reason for me to do it. my biggest container drop was 10k crystals once by then and i had crusader and gauss upgraded as much as it allowed me.

normal MM at mini-ranks is just old tanki. slow. boring. whoever drugs first wins.

then its kinda balanced with random guy that is 50 ranks above everyone though i didn't find them to be an issue actually. 

MM is trash but if you play smart you'll have no problem.

 I agree... but its better to cry and complain about how unfair everything else is but his own game decisions are terrible and when we are trying to help then he just ignore it and will complain again. At this point I believe that most of the players who are constantly crying about unfairness in game are doing just something very wrong and its their fault. Like I understand when 1,8K GS is facing 8K GS guy 15 ranks ahead of him, but at rank as this guy have he should have 5-6K GS  and yet is still complaining like its MM fault because he is was unreasonable and spend crystals on booster/saboteur and  turrets  he does not need and thus he does not have any maxed combo (for his rank). He was literally playing wasp with lvl 5 drone.... thats just like telling everyone to one tap him. 

 

@Jeers4U

well enjoy game... if this MM is bad for you wait until you rank up like 3-4 times so you will play 80 % with legends in both of the teams. At this point its your bad game decision making.  Just create new acc and start again and do not do mistakes you did and you will have different game experience. 

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On 4/28/2024 at 12:30 AM, TheCongoSpider said:

@Jeers4U You are aware of the effect upgrading a drone has on your performance, right? A 5/20 Saboteur is hurting your effectiveness. You are intended to use Brutus during your progression . It is made cheap to upgrade on purpose. You don't appear to be using it at all according to your ratings profile. 

I'm now seeing part of why you complain quite a lot. 

I have brutus fully upgraded on my W01 acc, along with a MK4 rail and a MK4 dictator. I only have 2 protections, rail and smoky.

I currently have 15,000 cry but to upgrade any more equipment, including any I unlock at future ranks will take at least 1000,000 cry with a 50% sale. 

Earning crystals to upgrade is extremely hard and is dependant on playing the game for many hrs a day, which has a detrimental side effect of ranking way to quickly and being outgunned in the process. 

It's catch 22. Your cannon fodder whatever you do because of the pathetic ranking system were you earn way more XP than cry.

This system has been left "as is" because it forces players either to spend cash are be worse than useless in battle.

@Jeers4U Has every right to complain because the system/game is broken and the devs know this, because It's the devs that have deliberately made it this way to extract as much cash from players as possible.

On 4/28/2024 at 3:56 AM, Jeers4U said:

It's funny because I think you demonstrate a vastly greater knowledge of the game here than most.

But then you come up with literally the most baffling statements which gives me no choice but to believe otherwise

It's funny because I was thinking the same thing.

The game is down to those who "HAVE" and those who do not. I believe congo falls into the former. Buyer are not, who knows.

On 4/28/2024 at 4:43 PM, Tekken8 said:

and you still wanna keep blaming MM instead.

Because MM is crap. It has never worked from day one.

The game in It's entirety is flawed and broken, because that's how the devs want it.

On 4/28/2024 at 7:16 PM, Kimura said:

normal MM at mini-ranks is just old tanki. slow. boring. whoever drugs first wins.

Spot on.

 

On 4/28/2024 at 9:54 PM, Romantically said:

And if you can't afford to max Brutus then too bad

Straight from hazels own mouthpiece.  

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On 4/28/2024 at 11:22 PM, FLIPSTIKS said:

Because MM is crap. It has never worked from day one.

Well it is, I never said it is not, but people complain like the only reason they suck is  because of MM and nothing else. Here I pointed out enough of his mistakes that clearly was  not fault of MM and he can fix those to the point that most of the battles will be decent for him. AM not saying that there wont be battles where balance will be totally off  but MM battles like he sent screenshots can fit without problem into "normal" category" for him. Guys with 1,8K GS wit low rank  can talk about bad balanced MM. I would understand his furstation if he played only with legends but he is not. I have acc with similar rank and I have no problem most of the time. IF by any chance I have very unfavourable MM from start I just leave such match and problem solved. 

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On 4/28/2024 at 10:22 PM, FLIPSTIKS said:

It's catch 22. Your cannon fodder whatever you do because of the pathetic ranking system were you earn way more XP than cry. 

This is the problem that plagues MM. Fix this and you solve this problem. I also gave the reason why "THEY" will not fix this glaring problem, ergo, players are stuffed. 

 

On 4/28/2024 at 10:42 PM, Tekken8 said:

IF by any chance I have very unfavourable MM from start I just leave such match and problem solved. 

Same here.

 

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On 4/28/2024 at 4:54 PM, Romantically said:

Basing opinion off 1 map is crazy
You traded + - 60% boost in armor/damage for a 97% (by maxing Brutus)

And if you can't afford to max Brutus then too bad

If you think it's off one map then you're 'kinda' and 'sorta' naive.

And I don't care what you think of the number of crystals i have.

 

On 4/28/2024 at 5:00 PM, Tekken8 said:

 when we are trying to help then he just ignore it and will complain again.

On 4/27/2024 at 10:56 PM, Jeers4U said:

So, I took your advice

 

On 4/28/2024 at 5:00 PM, Tekken8 said:

At this point I believe that most of the players who are constantly crying about unfairness in game are doing just something very wrong and its their fault. Like I understand when 1,8K GS is facing 8K GS guy 15 ranks ahead of him, but at rank as this guy have he should have 5-6K GS  and yet is still complaining like its MM fault because he is was unreasonable and spend crystals on booster/saboteur and  turrets  he does not need and thus he does not have any maxed combo (for his rank). He was literally playing wasp with lvl 5 drone.... thats just like telling everyone to one tap him.

Lol. Ok bud. You believe whatever your little heart wants to believe.

Literally dozens of threads here in the forum complaining about MM, literally dozens of comments in the chat area about MM, but Mr. Tekken8 thinks he knows how everyone plays, everyone's matches, everyone's tanks, everyone's upgrades and that everyone is doing something 'very wrong'...

Good lord, I have never read anything more (delusional) in my life. Do you believe what you say?

 

On 4/28/2024 at 5:00 PM, Tekken8 said:

well enjoy game... if this MM is bad for you wait until you rank up like 3-4 times so you will play 80 % with legends in both of the teams. At this point its your bad game decision making.  Just create new acc and start again and do not do mistakes you did and you will have different game experience. 

I already play amongst legends at my 4k rank. Hence the complaints. But I usually leave those battles.

 

On 4/28/2024 at 5:42 PM, Tekken8 said:

Well it is, I never said it is not,

LITERALLY, MY ENTIRE COMPLAINT.

You have successfully argued yourself into a perfect circle of silliness.

Look at the picture of the original 'stand corrected' match I posted.

Your whole argument could have been avoided by not wasting the bandwidth and the server space here.

 

And finally...

As an aside: Why do some of you take my complaints so utterly personal?

Is this how you define your lives? Tanki masters? In your minds, are you back in '68 rolling into Czechoslovakia? Or zooming across the N. African dessert in '44?

I'm asking.

Do you get up in the morning and put on Tanki underwear and think to yourselves "I'm going to be super awesome at tanki today and no one will complain about tanki... or else!'

I'm asking.

Unless you own tanki, work at tanki, have the word 'tanki' tattooed on your butt, why do any of you take offense to my complaints?

 

You realize that it's quite easy to scroll past my posts if they have ever made you cry, right?

True story.

 

Or... as one or two chat mods have told me in the past about a porche owning menace...

If you find what I say so offensive, silly, inane, or utter tripe, then BLOCK ME.

 

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On 4/28/2024 at 4:21 PM, Jeers4U said:

Do you get up in the morning and put on Tanki underwear and think to yourselves "I'm going to be super awesome at tanki today and no one will complain about tanki... or else!'

Ok, I'm intrigued. Do they also sell briefs or boxers with customized combos? :ph34r:

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On 4/28/2024 at 11:22 PM, FLIPSTIKS said:

Straight from hazels own mouthpiece.  

I have no problem getting max brutus before rank of Master Sergeant 

If you can't get 100k for a drone with abundance of containers it is just skill issue

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On 4/29/2024 at 1:21 AM, Jeers4U said:

If you think it's off one map then you're 'kinda' and 'sorta' naive.

And I don't care what you think of the number of crystals i have.

And I can "sorta" and "kinda" compare how my gameplay improved after switching level 5 booster for max brutus on LEGEND RANKS playing with not even any meaningful protections

 

Maybe you should consider if it's not you who is at fault.

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@Jeers4U

I am sorry that we did not automaticaly agreed with you as you expected from us. Instead I provided contructive criticism what are you doing wrong and COULD improve so your "MM issue" will get better to the point you wont be so frustrated here posting screenshots how MM is bad and unfair.   

 

On 4/29/2024 at 1:21 AM, Jeers4U said:

You have successfully argued yourself into a perfect circle of silliness.

Look at the picture of the original 'stand corrected' match I posted.

Your whole argument could have been avoided by not wasting the bandwidth and the server space here.

Thats your interpretation, dont put your words into my mouth ? 

There are instances where MM is bad, pictures you posted here are not examples of bad MM. One OP guy in team cant ruin your whole battle and I stand behind that. If everyone else is balanced and there is one guy above you all then he will certainly kill you but you have enough targets that you can kill and have a good battle, also  moments where you win against this "OP" guys in 1v1 are good test that you are getting better. 

I stand behind my argument that its your fault that your battles are not that good as they should and I proved why.  

On 4/29/2024 at 1:21 AM, Jeers4U said:

And finally...

As an aside: Why do some of you take my complaints so utterly personal?

Is this how you define your lives? Tanki masters? In your minds, are you back in '68 rolling into Czechoslovakia? Or zooming across the N. African dessert in '44?

I'm asking.

 

You realize that it's quite easy to scroll past my posts if they have ever made you cry, right?

Sorry but you are the only one that seem to take  complaints very personal ?  I wanted help you by providing informations what are you doing wrong so you game experience gets better, but  look at your replies... you are one that is reacting emotional, maybe you should take also your advice and dont take Tanki so serious so you wont waste your time complaining about MM in Tanki and life gets better. 

And at the end if you have to end your comment by saying " If you find what I say so offensive, silly, inane, or utter tripe, then BLOCK ME. "  .   Then you are only proof to what I said up here. I will take your advice and I wont react to you anymore, to save my and maybe your time.  Have a nice day. 

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On 4/29/2024 at 8:46 PM, Tekken8 said:

*a lot of yapping*

MM is not the most balanced. yeah. but what you said is absolutely right.

MM is skill based at the end of the day as much as noobs don't want to accept it. I got 1st place using Smoky/Hunter + Brutus at Legend 140+ and my MM battles have like 20% chance of having phoenix noobs in it so you can only imagine  how much brainrot im experiencing every time i play. I posted proof but they banned me "flaming" or whatever LMAOOOOO so im pretty sure the screenshots got removed.

Also a NEW PLAYER that i took under my wing used Smoky with F2P augment from WO3 all the way up to Legend and i haven't seen him complain one bit and his K/D and performance in MM would make you think he's a seasoned player. 

MM is balanced if you play smart and outsmart Tyrant known as Hazel. Yup I said it. MM is balanced. 

Why did I say "MM is not the most balanced" at the strat? Because most of the rank difference and you need to "beat the system" to have balanced MM instead of just brick on your space bar its over chat 5000 kills a battles lets go!!! 

 

EDIT: if it's not obvious MM has an algorithm that sorts people into more equal situations. Like i said my MM is what people say MM is but without exaggerating. Just now as an experiment I went into quick battle and got Bridges map with 9/14 players being 9999GS and rest 9k+ GS. My friend (legend 2) also noticed that my MM is way "harder" when we group so it's not just me being unlucky or whatever. If they look more into upgrading the algorithm that sorts people like that I think is the key to "perfect" matchmaking.

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On 4/29/2024 at 8:11 PM, Kimura said:

MM is skill based at the end of the day as much as noobs don't want to accept it.

True words I could not say it better. 

 

It interesting what you said about having much harder battles despite you are legend rank as I am. I did not observe this but maybe its true I dont know for sure. I think its very possible but since there in not enough players sometimes, so it looks same for me, I have met acca01  lot of times but I guess if there is big pool of players available for MM then this aplies.  

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On 4/29/2024 at 4:22 PM, Romantically said:

I have no problem getting max brutus before rank of Master Sergeant 

If you can't get 100k for a drone with abundance of containers it is just skill issue

You never mentioned master sergeant. 

Amassing 100K cry at that rank is nigh on impossible "UNLESS" you buy, or get unbelievably lucky with the useless devalued containers.

On 4/29/2024 at 4:23 PM, Romantically said:

And I can "sorta" and "kinda" compare how my gameplay improved after switching level 5 booster for max brutus on LEGEND RANKS playing with not even any meaningful protections

No offence and not to say that you are not telling the truth, but if you engage me in battle with brutus and no meaningful protections the outcome is only gonna go one way and it won't be in your favour. Brutus is a pile of crap after W05, maybe even before that rank and It's the augments that dictate a lot of battles along with the legal trashcan hacks.

 

On 4/29/2024 at 7:11 PM, Kimura said:

MM is skill based at the end of the day as much as noobs don't want to accept it.

It used to be skilled base back in the day. Yes "back in the day" was mostly down to drugs and who had the most, but it was also down to teamwork when there actually was "TEAMWORK" amongst players on a very regular basis, especially those players who were on voice chat together.

This was at the height of the clan era in TO that has now all but disappeared. Clans now have no meaning whatsoever in the game.

Skill has been overtaken by all the OP crap in the game like augments and the legal hack trashcans. 

Who would have thought that shaft would become a healer, what a joke.

Who would have thought we would have flying tanks, another complete joke.

Who would have thought that every turret can now mimic each other, meaning there really is nothing "unique" about any turret now, another joke.

There is still skill in the game, but It's nowhere near the level it used to be because of the OP crap that has made it all to easy to 1 shot anything.

On 4/29/2024 at 7:11 PM, Kimura said:

If they look more into upgrading the algorithm that sorts people like that I think is the key to "perfect" matchmaking.

The key is to make the cry gained in battle at least twice, if not three times more than the XP gained. Also make it so that you need at least twice the XP to rank, all the way to marshal. This would sort out the rank differences with ease. MM is not and never has been balanced, end of. 

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On 4/29/2024 at 11:23 AM, Romantically said:

And I can "sorta" and "kinda" compare how my gameplay improved after switching level 5 booster for max brutus on LEGEND RANKS playing with not even any meaningful protections

Maybe you should consider if it's not you who is at fault.

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On 4/29/2024 at 1:46 PM, Tekken8 said:

I am sorry that we did not automaticaly agreed with you as you expected from us. Instead I provided contructive criticism what are you doing wrong and COULD improve so your "MM issue" will get better to the point you wont be so frustrated here posting screenshots how MM is bad and unfair.  

Wasn't now or have I ever been looking for anyone else's agreement.

The 'MM issue' will never be fixed because a 'fixed' MM system doesn't make tanki any money.

I have long ago accepted this. I am WAY past the point of being frustrated by it.

But I still like to point out the complete idiocy of MM (and to a lesser extent, expose the... 'players'... who continue to defend the MM inequities as just a 'rare occurrence' or 'anomaly' of having less players playing).

 

On 4/29/2024 at 1:46 PM, Tekken8 said:

There are instances where MM is bad, pictures you posted here are not examples of bad MM.

Not sure what pictures you're looking at, but if this match isn't an example of 'bad' (with respect to me being put in it), then please stop replying to any post I will ever have because you really... (how can I put this so I don't get a 'forced vacation'... hmm...) you really need to go outside and touch grass because you are failing to understand the contents of this match/picture. (note, this is not me getting emotional, this is me wondering about your perception of reality).

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On 4/29/2024 at 1:46 PM, Tekken8 said:

Sorry but you are the only one that seem to take  complaints very personal ?  I wanted help you by providing informations what are you doing wrong so you game experience gets better, but  look at your replies... you are one that is reacting emotional, maybe you should take also your advice and dont take Tanki so serious so you wont waste your time complaining about MM in Tanki and life gets better.

I don't take anything here personally. Not sure what 'voice' you're reading my words in, but maybe the choice of phrases and words we are using isn't received the best, maybe?

When I underline or bold or italic anything in my replies, it is because you (and others) have completely missed my point, missed key words and/or phrases, or weren't even reading what I wrote because you were too busy replying in your head before you finished reading.

 

On 4/29/2024 at 1:46 PM, Tekken8 said:

I stand behind my argument that its your fault that your battles are not that good as they should and I proved why. 

And again, to that, I say you don't really know what you are talking about. You have never met me in battle, know my tactics, nothing.

And the only thing you proved (to me) is the exact opposite to what you think you proved.

 

On 4/29/2024 at 2:11 PM, Kimura said:

Yup I said it. MM is balanced. 

 

You're arguing the MM is balanced.

Take a moment and let that sink in.

 

On 4/29/2024 at 2:11 PM, Kimura said:

MM is skill based at the end of the day as much as noobs don't want to accept it.

You're arguing that tanki is skill based.

Take a moment and also let that sink in.

 

I have one final request and you can all go back to being bored with the forum for the next few days.

If you think tanki's MM is balanced, please, I beg you, BLOCK me. 

I have no desire to be dragged into your delusional world where you know a guy who's hairdresser's dog walker's third cousin did well playing tanki because of (insert anecdotal meandering story here).

 

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rephrasing of calling people delusional.
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On 4/30/2024 at 4:42 AM, Jeers4U said:

You're arguing that tanki is skill based.

I smell the odor of noob from a mile away. guess i'll have to do the Smoky + Brutus in MM once again and hope i won't get a month ban because i proved something.

Here is our combo that we'll be using today. 100% available for f2p no OP augments no nothing.

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Here is the map we'll be testing our Toys in.

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We have clearly a group in the enemy team. the freeze guy was beyond a tryhard too. also a pulsar thunder. useless but if he gets that crit you will not be having fun. oh and 2 lifeguards because why not.

Since you like GS numbers so much i'll tell you some info about them.

8/13 players have 9999GS. which is about 60% of the map.

Average GS is 9272.

Here is our result.

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the noob in first place equipped hopper + shredder and stole like 10 kills from me.

my prots saved me from exactly 1 player.

 

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On 4/30/2024 at 12:13 AM, Tekken8 said:

It interesting what you said about having much harder battles despite you are legend rank as I am. I did not observe this but maybe its true I dont know for sure. I think its very possible but since there in not enough players sometimes, so it looks same for me, I have met acca01

don't use acca01 as a measuring stick. The harder battles are there i forgot to mention that my girlfriend (legend 12) also has way way easier MM battles than me. Mine is guaranteed to have half of the map at 9999gs basically with tons of more on top.  [edited]

On 4/30/2024 at 1:22 AM, FLIPSTIKS said:

It used to be skilled base back in the day. Yes "back in the day" was mostly down to drugs and who had the most, but it was also down to teamwork when there actually was "TEAMWORK" amongst players on a very regular basis, especially those players who were on voice chat together.

back in my day it was every match ends 100000-0 because the losing team instantly quits and we then get a 10v2 battles. Also a single buyer could flat out destroy the entire map with just a couple of drugs. no augment even paired with flying monkey could replicate the level of power buyer had back then.

 

On 4/30/2024 at 7:12 AM, Jeers4U said:

The 'MM issue' will never be fixed because a 'fixed' MM system doesn't make tanki any money.

golden words.

 

On 4/30/2024 at 1:22 AM, FLIPSTIKS said:

The key is to make the cry gained in battle at least twice, if not three times more than the XP gained. Also make it so that you need at least twice the XP to rank, all the way to marshal. This would sort out the rank differences with ease. MM is not and never has been balanced, end of. 

the cry/xp ratio can be 1000:1 at the end of the day RNG from conts is what will have the most effects. keep this game MMO and not a Japanese Gacha Game because this game is clearly not built for Gacha Game elements and Hazel the Tyrant is too stupid to realise that and instead he'll take everything bad from a random game while ignoring everything that players of that game like.

 

On 4/30/2024 at 7:12 AM, Jeers4U said:

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i have more GS than you at WO3 without spending a single penny. also most of WOs are  at 3-4k GS so im not some anomaly. if you don't upgrade then it doesn't matter what you use or what GS enemies you get youll get destroyed

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