update Patch Update #678 - Released 11th February 2022

[wolverine848 13,097]

6 minutes ago, SporkZilla said:

I've done this with Shaft (when I've needed long-range turret kills for special missions), just keep watching the point and hide your laser (and your tank) and pick off enemy players trying to cap the point

I think it's a decent tactical use of Shaft as long as you move around and attack enemy players on every point instead of just one

But a lot of players either can't or won't use long-range turrets tactically in not-TDM modes; Shaft and Magnum are the worst, but Rail and Gauss can be almost as useless in the wrong hands

Well, poster said "spawn point" which is where the tank appears.  You are referring to CAP point and maybe that was the intent.

And yes, moving from point to point to point and killing enemy cappers does help the team.  In previous post tanker had said never EVER plays by the mode, so they may or may not go from point to point to point doing that.

I just left 2 CP battles because the majority of my team were cowards and tried to leave the "heavy lifting" to just a couple other tanks who kept getting killed at the cap-points.  Our team was of course getting stomped because - surprise surprise - kills don't increase the TEAM score. Capping does.  Suck it up and die for the team once in a while.  Or go play DM.

 

[Abellia 504]

1 hour ago, wolverine848 said:

Well, poster said "spawn point" which is where the tank appears.  You are referring to CAP point and maybe that was the intent.

And yes, moving from point to point to point and killing enemy cappers does help the team.  In previous post tanker had said never EVER plays by the mode, so they may or may not go from point to point to point doing that.

I just left 2 CP battles because the majority of my team were cowards and tried to leave the "heavy lifting" to just a couple other tanks who kept getting killed at the cap-points.  Our team was of course getting stomped because - surprise surprise - kills don't increase the TEAM score. Capping does.  Suck it up and die for the team once in a while.  Or go play DM.

 

I couldn't hear you over the sound of "my kdr is higher than yours which means i'm a better player and your understanding of in-game mechanics is inferior to mine"

 

[x_Sorinel_x 552]

7 hours ago, YANUKFIN said:

to limit the amount of kills against me as much as I can

I instant "run" when I see this players in my team... I hope Tanki will delete the K/D in players profile. K/D is not important noobs. Many battles (most are CTF) I just run to get flag. Many many many times I'm in first 3 in winning team. But, kills about 5-6. Deaths ? Maybe 15-16.

Camp at 0-0 ? Ok. But, I was in some battles, enemy ahed with 2 flags (10-11 minutes left). What some noob players did in my team ? Just camped like stupids. Instant "run" from battle... My team ahead, you can camp. Enemy team ahead, stop camping and rush to get the flag.

[BruhBruhThingThing 413]

On 2/10/2022 at 4:52 PM, MysticBlood said:

Then don't play capture objectives. Play tdm but don't do other modes to ruin capture modes by not contributing. Also you should read game rules. Look closer.. they added this detail recently. 

I am glad this went into more detail. I have said my piece that I wanted to say, no more explanation from me.  

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I feel sorry for the battle mods. Their workload has doubled in size at least because last I checked the majority of the player base play the TDM style.

22 hours ago, LeGurp said:

If they make a rule against "not scoring" in the sabotage section, does that mean they have finally fixed the "no damage" bug?

At this point. I seriously doubt it.

[LeGurp 62]

I like how every single move in this game has been punished with ludicrous gains in XP compared to the rewards you gain from them. Even picking up a coin box gains you XP now (lol). How does that not force F2P player behaviour in the direction of extremely cautious play - which is now offcially punishable by account suspension? Guys, you've made it like in the movie "WarGames": the only non-self-destructive move to the F2Per is not playing.

And look at what that whole "mult / sabotage" thing even entails:

"Hey, we just nerfed the augment you're using! Now we'll call it sabotage on your part if you use it - and you'll get a ban!"

"You're using lame equipment, here's your ban!" Who's even to decide that the other items in my garage I am *not* using (because heck, you have just imposed a 9 minute (!!!) cool down on equipment change) would be stronger than the stuff I have currently equipped

"You're doing X and Y intentionally, here's your ban!" I like the whole "intentionally" issue. Let the thought police in.

Edited February 12, 2022 by LeGurp

[Frylock 1,617]

8 minutes ago, LeGurp said:

"Hey, we just nerfed the augment you're using! Now we'll call it sabotage on your part, and you'll get a ban!"

I think you misunderstood that part. Sabotage is basically putting obstruction against your teammates or intentionally not doing the objective. Also using intentional low gs as a legend if you had mk7 equipment the whole time. To be honest, people shouldn't have to do these things to ruin others experience and I'm also glad they emphasized on it. I don't know if its just me but when I am in a battle I expect great teamwork and people doing the objective and have fun by being competitive, not people ruining it by doing the things I mentioned earlier. 

Edited February 12, 2022 by MysticBlood

[LeGurp 62]

16 minutes ago, MysticBlood said:

I think you misunderstood that part. Sabotage is basically putting obstruction against your teammates or intentionally not doing the objective. Also using intentional low gs as a legend if you had mk7 equipment the whole time.

It says, "selection of weak equipment" - there is nothing to be misunderstood here. It doesn't say "low gs". And what even is "intentional low gs" in a mid-range player's garage? My favourite smokey which used to work ok even in long range is not what it used to be. If I am thrown into "bridges" after waiting several minutes for MM, it makes more sense to use my "unMUPped" long-range weapon. Intentionally. Is that now punishable by law? My foot!  I've already had players shout "leGurp! Video! Mult!" immediately after I entered a battle, and if that's the state of things, I've had it.

Edited February 12, 2022 by LeGurp

[wild001 1,422]

Already saw 2 fire stun 9999 in battle.

lucky I have AP freeze with stun immu.

Those fire/freeze with extra status effect is OP, specially with battle group

[Desghidorah 58]

On 2/10/2022 at 4:36 PM, Marcus said:

• Striker»:

  • Min projectile speed decreased from 25-30 to 15-20 (m/sec);

  • Max projectile speed decreased from 700 to 300 (m/sec);

  • Shell acceleration time decreased from 3 to 2 seconds;

  • Shell angular velocity increased from 45-50 to 45-60 (deg/sec);

  • Maximum target highlighting distance increased to 120-180 m.

• «Vulcan»:

  • Projectile speed decreased from 250 to 150 (m/sec);

  • Critical damage per bullet increased from 22-44 to 44-88 HP;

  • «Incendiary band»:

    • Projectile speed reduction decreased from -50 to -20%.

  • Maximum target highlighting distance increased to 120-180 m.

•  

But why........(╯︵╰,)

[Cor7y 13,862]

11 hours ago, numericable said:

 

Maybe they are trying to sell that p2w battle pass vulcan augment.

Tbh its not that good anymore due to Vulcan bullet speed nerf.

9 hours ago, fghjkl54 said:

as for ricochet i doubt that plasma torch will be abused as long as it's weak

I've been seeing more of them ever since the new update dropped, and 90% of the team it's used by a viking player whose X and Z keys are broken.

9 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

Why?   If they are using HI...

1) they get no damage bonus from it

2) they can only equip 1 hull augment.  So if they equip HI they are totally vulnerable to stun/AP/EMP/Freezing

So what? By using heat immunity they just play like braindead animals, putting a brick on spacebar and what not. Would be better if they still took just a tiny amount of damage from overheating when using Vulcan, so atleast some skill is required from their side.

(This used to be the case with Twins some years back, before self and splash damage feature was implemented - Twins' players just put a brick on the spacebar.

9 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

Most vulcan's are not using HI.  Some sure, but a lot are using Adrenaline, some IB and some RAT.

How is that related? If you use Adrenaline and RAT, you need Heat immunity; IB - Heat resistance. That sentence doesn't make any sense lol

 

[alkyng 3,080]

2 hours ago, Cor7y said:

How is that related? If you use Adrenaline and RAT, you need Heat immunity; IB - Heat resistance. That sentence doesn't make any sense lol

 

Heat Immunity was only needed for Vulcan IB, because in real, you need to shoot while you under fire. But other Vulcan augments, nope, you can just stop when you start burning.  Shooting continuously for more than 12s for Mk8, isn't a luring advantage to use HI over other immunities.  In real, even if Tanki buffed Vulcan and made it shoot indefinitely, it wont be a huge game changer.

[LambSauce 1,884]

4 hours ago, MysticBlood said:

I think you misunderstood that part. Sabotage is basically putting obstruction against your teammates or intentionally not doing the objective. Also using intentional low gs as a legend if you had mk7 equipment the whole time. To be honest, people shouldn't have to do these things to ruin others experience and I'm also glad they emphasized on it. I don't know if its just me but when I am in a battle I expect great teamwork and people doing the objective and have fun by being competitive, not people ruining it by doing the things I mentioned earlier. 

This game is too casual for that.

What you described will probably be reserved for some sort of ranked competitive mode. 

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

13 hours ago, YANUKFIN said:

Spoiler

 

Rugby, siege, assault are my favourite camping modes and I always defend a spawn point and get a good many kills doing so in the process.

I've had to change my game play so many times because of the OP nature of so many trash gimmicks, I now just play one way and stick to that no matter what.

The developers have ruined the game beyond repair in so many ways, you and I both no it will only get worse with every update they bring in, so this is why I play the way I do, to limit the amount of kills against me as much as I can. Don't blame you for leaving, I would do the same and have done so on many occasions. 

 

 

As a SGE mode main i can say you are ABSOLUTELY USELESS in that mode if its your "favourite camping mode" camping in that mode should be insta ban there is no excuse lol. You can just equip long-mid range turrets and kill enemy campers while holding the point! its not that hard! 

OP  nature of many gimmick made you change your gameplay? what?? Yea i may not be a f2p but 7/10 times im using conbo F2P can easily get both in SGE and another MODES. I have an immunity equiped yes. but f2ps are likely to have that too at this point id say even something like freeze immunity is usefull at times. My most used "OP trash p2w mega augment" of 2022 is "Healing Emiters" for Shaft its not OP at all its just plain old shaft without augment for you as an enemy and something like mk8 isida with booster drone as  a teammate and guess what even with Shaft i DONT CAMP i cap the point i heal my "boys" and kill enemies and i get first place easy. Then i use Striker or Tesla with F2P AUGMENTS (rarely with something like burn/stun/AP) and i still get first place no camping needed. Yes i can call myself above average player easily but i dont think for an average player its going to be hard to play like that. (I use brutus drone too)

If you got skill (which you wont get if you do nothing but """"defend"""") you will survive even when those "OP mega man turrets" attack you.  you will get killed by 2k gs twins with wasp with broken X Z keys if you gonna keep being a camper and sit in the corner. But what do i know im just a guy with 9 years of experience playing this game...
Also the game is not ruined beyond repair you just refuse to adapt to changes the game is going thru. If you dont like the game just leave if you like it adapt god dammit. Even someone like me who hates changes is pleased with new tanki i even like it more than old tanki (after playing old tanki like events for couple battles) i adapted to changes and im enjoying the game. if i want to camp i play everything besides CP and SGE and in another modes i defend flag/RGB point etc. while supporting my teammates with dictator/paladin ODs. Not just camping and killing random dude once in a while.

TL:DR camping = big bad 

Edited February 12, 2022 by DokanPerfect
adding extra info to make it easier to undarstand i hope))

[YANUKFIN 493]

10 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

You are referring to CAP point and maybe that was the intent

Correct.

 

10 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

And yes, moving from point to point to point and killing enemy cappers does help the team.

Yes it does, but I defend multiple points from one vantage "point".

 

10 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

In previous post tanker had said never EVER plays by the mode,

I don't, not intentionally. As I have said, I will not engage OP trash gimmicks only to be taken out with ridiculous ease. A maxed out everything combo which took a long time to upgrade should not be wiped out in under 2 seconds by a player with over 2000 G/S less than myself, but it has happened on occasion.  It's usually the floating trash can paladin which seems to be the preferred hull of a lot of players that catches me out if I happen to leave my vantage point.

 

10 hours ago, wolverine848 said:

Suck it up and die for the team once in a while. 

Nah, I'll give that a miss. TO has went down the pan big time. Only the kids, "who don't know any better" and the buyers benefit in any way from the ridiculous changes the game has went through, changes that have affected most players in a bad way from the terrible update to the upgrading process, (still THE worst one by far) right through to the plethora of OP augments/status effects/overdrives/etc, etc. THIS is the reason I will not conform to any part of the game in regards to "sucking it up" just not gonna happen I'm afraid, not until the "game" itself changes radically in the right direction. The developers have got to start improving TO in a positive way for the majority of players in regards to BALANCE and FAIRPLAY, I think we can all agree on this at the very least.

 

4 hours ago, x_Sorinel_x said:

I instant "run" when I see this players in my team

Well "this player" is actually very good at camping and has also done what you do back in the day.

If my style of play, which I have adopted due to the game going pare shaped is not to your liking, then that's your problem, not mine. As a certain poster said, "suck it up".

5 hours ago, x_Sorinel_x said:

Enemy team ahead, stop camping and rush to get the flag.

Time itself will end before I do that.

 

4 hours ago, LeGurp said:

I like how every single move in this game has been punished with ludicrous gains in XP compared to the rewards you gain from them.

Just one of MANY ridiculous updates that solidifies my strategy on how I play TO now.

 

4 hours ago, MysticBlood said:

Sabotage is basically putting obstruction against your teammates

Agree, for once.

 

4 hours ago, MysticBlood said:

intentionally not doing the objective.

Disagree. The game has and always will have campers. Just because "you think" that a certain player is not doing the objective according to how "you" perceive it does not mean that they are sabotaging the game (team mates.) 

 

5 hours ago, Cor7y said:

(This used to be the case with Twins some years back, before self and splash damage feature was implemented

Yet another way to gain money from players and further enhances my stand point on my game play.

[YANUKFIN 493]

1 hour ago, DokanPerfect said:

As a SGE mode main i can say you are ABSOLUTELY USELESS in that mode if its your "favourite camping mode" camping in that mode should be insta ban there is no excuse lol. You can just equip long-mid range turrets and kill enemy campers while holding the point! its not that hard! 

OP  nature of many gimmick made you change your gameplay? what?? Yea i may not be a f2p but 7/10 times im using conbo F2P can easily get both in SGE and another MODES. I have an immunity equiped yes. but f2ps are likely to have that too at this point id say even something like freeze immunity is usefull at times. My most used "OP trash p2w mega augment" of 2022 is "Healing Emiters" for Shaft its not OP at all its just plain old shaft without augment for you as an enemy and something like mk8 isida with booster drone as  a teammate and guess what even with Shaft i DONT CAMP i cap the point i heal my "boys" and kill enemies and i get first place easy. Then i use Striker or Tesla with F2P AUGMENTS (rarely with something like burn/stun/AP) and i still get first place no camping needed. Yes i can call myself above average player easily but i dont think for an average player its going to be hard to play like that. (I use brutus drone too)

If you got skill (which you wont get if you do nothing but """"defend"""") you will survive even when those "OP mega man turrets" attack you.  you will get killed by 2k gs twins with wasp with broken X Z keys if you gonna keep being a camper and sit in the corner. But what do i know im just a guy with 9 years of experience playing this game...
Also the game is not ruined beyond repair you just refuse to adapt to changes the game is going thru. If you dont like the game just leave if you like it adapt god dammit. Even someone like me who hates changes is pleased with new tanki i even like it more than old tanki (after playing old tanki like events for couple battles) i adapted to changes and im enjoying the game. if i want to camp i play everything besides CP and SGE and in another modes i defend flag/RGB point etc. while supporting my teammates with dictator/paladin ODs. Not just camping and killing random dude once in a while.

1 hour ago, DokanPerfect said:

If you dont like the game just leave if you like it adapt god dammit

 What do you think I am doing, I'm adapting to the changes in TO to suit me, just like the developers adapt (make changes) to suit them.   
 

You obviously have no idea about why I play the way I do. 

I read your post TWICE just to make sure I was reading it correctly. 

I will not go into specifics other than to say camping done correctly is an art in itself. To quote my first sentence, "YOU have no idea".

9 years experience. Maybe after another 9 you might understand but then, possibly not.

 

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

14 minutes ago, YANUKFIN said:

You obviously have no idea about why I play the way I do. 

You are literally too scared to not camp after seeing a f2p player with AP freeze that he got from a challange.

from what im seeing nobody besides you undarstands how you "play" by playing TDM in SGE or CTF

[YANUKFIN 493]

9 minutes ago, DokanPerfect said:

You are literally too scared to not camp after seeing a f2p player with AP freeze that he got from a challange

To scared  Ok sherlock, why not try and attempt to deduce what I am alluding to. My original quote stands, "you have no idea".

You have a great day playing TO and getting killed a zillion times while using loads of supplies. I will of course stay nice and safe using a limited amount of supplies and enjoying my cup of tea in the process and completing my missions without even trying, or caring that I have done so.

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

4 minutes ago, YANUKFIN said:

To scared  Ok sherlock, why not try and attempt to deduce what I am alluding to. My original quote stands, "you have no idea".

You have a great day playing TO and getting killed a zillion times while using loads of supplies. I will of course stay nice and safe using a limited amount of supplies and enjoying my cup of tea in the process and completing my missions without even trying, or caring that I have done so.

What about you just listen to me and  10 another people trying to explain to you that camping is just you doing nothing except bringing your team down unless its TDM. Guess ill spill my beans and open my chest of holy secrets and ill tell you how i became so good another people call me pro ( you can actualy see that in General chat sometimes). First i was bad camper like you scared of M1 smoky but then i had enough and started going kamikadze mode yea i got killed i lost my camper K/D but slowly i became better and better until now i can get 1st place with my eyes closed while you just gonna camp and gain no skill. Camping is NOT A SKILL if it is then existing is too. enough argue with a wall. hope dumb campers like you disappear from all modes except TDM and DM

[YANUKFIN 493]

22 minutes ago, DokanPerfect said:

What about you just listen to me and  10 another people trying to explain to you that camping is just you doing nothing except bringing your team down unless its TDM. Guess ill spill my beans and open my chest of holy secrets and ill tell you how i became so good another people call me pro ( you can actualy see that in General chat sometimes). First i was bad camper like you scared of M1 smoky but then i had enough and started going kamikadze mode yea i got killed i lost my camper K/D but slowly i became better and better until now i can get 1st place with my eyes closed while you just gonna camp and gain no skill. Camping is NOT A SKILL if it is then existing is too. enough argue with a wall. hope dumb campers like you disappear from all modes except TDM and DM

My carefully considered reply to you is this  

You have a nice day now.

[LambSauce 1,884]

29 minutes ago, DokanPerfect said:

What about you just listen to me and  10 another people trying to explain to you that camping is just you doing nothing except bringing your team down unless its TDM. Guess ill spill my beans and open my chest of holy secrets and ill tell you how i became so good another people call me pro ( you can actualy see that in General chat sometimes). First i was bad camper like you scared of M1 smoky but then i had enough and started going kamikadze mode yea i got killed i lost my camper K/D but slowly i became better and better until now i can get 1st place with my eyes closed while you just gonna camp and gain no skill. Camping is NOT A SKILL if it is then existing is too. enough argue with a wall. hope dumb campers like you disappear from all modes except TDM and DM

So your whole team is gonna rush to the cap point and get insta-sniped by Gauss or destroyed by Striker salvos?

The whole point is you need someone to watch your flanks… everyone mindlessly rushing to the point is a recipe for disaster.

[SporkZilla 1,775]

@DokanPerfect 

Most people on here (and Discord) know how much I dislike campers, but it might be worth cooling things a bit

In SGE I nearly always equip protections against most long-range turrets if I have them because I know I'm going to be brawling with enemy players at the point (my favorite SGE combo is Hunter Isida with adrenaline) and being targeted by long-range turrets

Usually it's only possible for entire teams to cap points in SGE if the other team is very weak / MM is unbalanced, so sometimes I will not go for the points and attack the enemy long-range turrets instead

Having too many campers on your team in SGE is bad, but I don't expect there to be none

I find camping more of a problem in other modes when it doesn't help the team, especially in ASL where daft magnum players think they can help me cap flags by sitting behind a building and firing shells at the enemy base for the entire battle, and in Cross CP where you need the entire team to try and hold five points

 

Edited February 12, 2022 by SporkZilla

[YANUKFIN 493]

8 hours ago, MysticBlood said:

I think you misunderstood that part. Sabotage is basically putting obstruction against your teammates or intentionally not doing the objective. Also using intentional low gs as a legend if you had mk7 equipment the whole time. To be honest, people shouldn't have to do these things to ruin others experience and I'm also glad they emphasized on it. I don't know if its just me but when I am in a battle I expect great teamwork and people doing the objective and have fun by being competitive, not people ruining it by doing the things I mentioned earlier. 

So in your considered opinion who is sabotaging this battle.

And you wonder why I "camp".

TO is a shambles and will only get worse. I could have left at the beginning but it was on a favoured map so I stayed, glad I did, nice K/D don't you think. Was aiming for 20 but 18 is ok I guess.

This is all I have to aim for, so I will continue to improve my K/D and just like the developers, I could care less about players and how they perform on either side.

You have a nice day now.  

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

6 minutes ago, LambSauce said:

So your whole team is gonna rush to the cap point and get insta-sniped by Gauss or destroyed by Striker salvos?

The whole point is you need someone to watch your flanks… everyone mindlessly rushing to the point is a recipe for disaster.

When did i say you have to rush? I am saying that camping will not give you win or skill which turns you into another crybaby crying about how OP is one of the weakest container augments even if its worse than 90% of f2p auments. Or how top 3 mission is impossible bcs i do nothing but camp

[YANUKFIN 493]

1 minute ago, DokanPerfect said:

When did i say you have to rush? I am saying that camping will not give you win or skill which turns you into another crybaby crying about how OP is one of the weakest container augments even if its worse than 90% of f2p auments. Or how top 3 mission is impossible bcs i do nothing but camp

 If you are referring to me (IF) read my previous other posts.

I do not care a hoot about top 3, missions, or anything else, just my precious K/D, which is doing just fine under my revised game play. 

I hope you continue to excel at TO. Enjoy the rest of your day. 

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

7 minutes ago, SporkZilla said:

@DokanPerfect 

Most people on here (and Discord) know how much I dislike campers, but it might be worth cooling things a bit

In SGE I nearly always equip protections against most long-range turrets if I have them because I know I'm going to be brawling with enemy players at the point (my favorite SGE combo is Hunter Isida with adrenaline) and being targeted by long-range turrets

Usually it's only possible for entire teams to cap points in SGE if the other team is very weak / MM is unbalanced, so sometimes I will not go for the points and attack the enemy long-range turrets instead

Having too many campers on your team in SGE is bad, but I don't expect there to be none

I find camping more of a problem in other modes when it doesn't help the team, especially in ASL where daft magnum players think they can help me cap flags by sitting behind a building and firing shells at the enemy base for the entire battle, and in Cross CP where you need the entire team to try and hold five points

 

You misunderstood what i mean my boy. Campers in siege do literally nothing except maybe killing random dude near a point sometimes. You actualy dont need a strong team to win in siege 4+ people with teamwork and 7k gs is enough to beat 16 people with 9k+ gs that just attack the point not even knowing why they are doing it (which is 9/10 players in siege). camping in ASL as an attacker is stupid yea but sometimes its not even worth attacking since enemy team is only titans and there is no way of winning mode effected by camping the most is SGE and CP imo then ASL probably but its close....  

now like i said in siege teamwork and attacking matters the most. for example ive carried so many teams to victory from losing just because i "glued" the team with my support while yea im 9999gs but im mostly using dictator + AP magnum/ healing shaft. and is it really that powerful that i can just mop the floor in 1v10?