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3 minutes ago, Incorp said:

And i just bought a bundle on spiderhiest. Hope its worth it. 

Of course its slow, considering all the f2p players who wasted their tankoins on the previous fund.

It is also because of the duration of the fund. It is not like we have an unlimited supply of bundle buying players and time being the only constraint. Quite a bit the opposite.

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1 hour ago, frederik123456 said:

It is also because of the duration of the fund. It is not like we have an unlimited supply of bundle buying players and time being the only constraint. Quite a bit the opposite.

Main problem is the rewards.

Most players by now have the 4th slot - considering this is the 3rd?  4th? "fund"?

The regular containers are not worth much.

For the most part the UCs are a giant gamble that rarely pay off.

The next batch are specialized - if a player is not looking for those specific augments they will take a pass.

The last two are most attractive - but - no one realistically believes the Fund will get that high.

 

For many players it's just not worth the gamble.  Many will wait to see if it pushes toward Tier 14.  When it doesn't they will be happy with saving those TKs.

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6 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

Main problem is the rewards.

Most players by now have the 4th slot - considering this is the 3rd?  4th? "fund"?

The regular containers are not worth much.

For the most part the UCs are a giant gamble that rarely pay off.

The next batch are specialized - if a player is not looking for those specific augments they will take a pass.

The last two are most attractive - but - no one realistically believes the Fund will get that high.

 

For many players it's just not worth the gamble.  Many will wait to see if it pushes toward Tier 14.  When it doesn't they will be happy with saving those TKs.

I believe many will be fine to pay 999tks to get helios, a skin container and other rewards. The issue is Helios can easily get a nerf after the fund, so it is debatable whether it is worth it or not for f2p or small buyers.

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51 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

The regular containers are not worth much

You were being very kind there. The reg containers are TRASH, that's why I no longer acquire the gold tier in the challenge, utter waste of tankoins/cash.

 

53 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

The last two are most attractive

Only for players with a HUGE amount of crystals are cash to burn. Imo with everything that can take you out in battle, the last 2 are just not worth it. 

Forget crisis, armadillo to upgrade takes a astronomical amount of crystals and like I said It's not that good in battle with all the augments in the game. 

51 minutes ago, frederik123456 said:

I believe many will be fine to pay 999tks to get helios

 

51 minutes ago, frederik123456 said:

The issue is Helios can easily get a nerf after the fund,

Nice contradiction. You got it right with the second part and Its a definite nerf in the near future for helios, absolute given.

Lets not forget the track record of the developers, Its abysmal, but it's what they do best. OP update, as much cash as they can get, then nerf the crap out of it when it's cash value is no longer a viable option. The way the developers run TO is appalling and yet players will still spend cash on this useless fund. Helios lol, do me a favour.

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16 minutes ago, YANUKFIN said:

Only for players with a HUGE amount of crystals are cash to burn. Imo with everything that can take you out in battle, the last 2 are just not worth it. 

Forget crisis, armadillo to upgrade takes a astronomical amount of crystals and like I said It's not that good in battle with all the augments in the game. 

Armadillo might cost a LOT to upgrade.

But what else are Legends 10+ gonna spend their crystals on?  For the most part it's upgrades.

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1 hour ago, wolverine848 said:

Armadillo might cost a LOT to upgrade.

But what else are Legends 10+ gonna spend their crystals on?  For the most part it's upgrades.

I have it on one account, MK6. 2 upgrades. To upgrade to MK6-level 3 will cost 850,000 cry. Way more than just "a lot".

I no were your coming from but to upgrade that module is just insane and it really isn't worth it, just like crisis. Both of these "supposed" end game trinkets of TO are overrated.

I have crisis on 2 accounts and have not used it for a long time, saying that though I have not used either account for well over a year, probs longer because of the cheap trick the developers pulled when they changed the upgrading process, stating that it was "to complicated" for new players, biggest lie they have told to date.

By the way I'm well over legend 50 and I would not say thanks if I got either, nowhere near enough crystals saved and I have nothing left to upgrade.

My advice to any legend with a near maxed garage is to save cry for batteries and other supplies and forget about crisis and armadillo, they are just not worth it.

Overrated and overpriced.     

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4 hours ago, NikmanGT said:

but we have 1327 winners, considering some wins by the same account, we still have a lot of people who can buy bundles.

But everyone ig is waiting for the scenario to buy the bundle only if the fund reaches their expectation level.

but still lower than the number of f2p participants last time

16 minutes ago, YANUKFIN said:

My advice to any legend with a near maxed garage is to save cry for batteries and other supplies and forget about crisis and armadillo, they are just not worth it.

thanks for the advice, i may or may not stick to hyperion when i reach legend, but i can stock batteries and supplies from containers

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15 minutes ago, YANUKFIN said:

I have it on one account, MK6. 2 upgrades. To upgrade to MK6-level 3 will cost 850,000 cry. Way more than just "a lot".

I no were your coming from but to upgrade that module is just insane and it really isn't worth it, just like crisis. Both of these "supposed" end game trinkets of TO are overrated.

I have crisis on 2 accounts and have not used it for a long time, saying that though I have not used either account for well over a year, probs longer because of the cheap trick the developers pulled when they changed the upgrading process, stating that it was "to complicated" for new players, biggest lie they have told to date.

By the way I'm well over legend 50 and I would not say thanks if I got either, nowhere near enough crystals saved and I have nothing left to upgrade.

My advice to any legend with a near maxed garage is to save cry for batteries and other supplies and forget about crisis and armadillo, they are just not worth it.

Overrated and overpriced.     

WIKI says cost to go from 6.2 to 6.3 is 340,000.  then subtract because of sale.

In any event players can choose what to save for and for me - if I actually still played - and actually had that module - it would be a priority to upgrade.

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5 hours ago, fghjkl54 said:

but still lower than the number of f2p participants last time

Everyone is waiting for the scenario, "If the fund reaches atleast this level or that level, we might participate in it"

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As you can see, 850,000. For 1 upgrade this is unacceptable. I used it as a 4th protection a few times and never really rated it.

If you ever get it it's your call to upgrade it. Remember that you start at MK1 regardless of your rank, so you have to buy all the MKs at legend, THEN you can start and upgrade it.

Even with sales this module costs a fortune to max out and as I have said, with everything in the game that can take you out (dozens of them) this module is a waste of crystals, millions of crystals. 

In my case this is to get it at the next rank because of the upgrade change. So i was right and wrong in regards to the step upgrade price.

Regardless, it is still a overpriced module for what it does to supposedly enhance your tank in battle.

This is why if you have MK6 4/5 the cry needed to upgrade should be based on a % of what you have already upgraded, in my case 1/5 is all i should have to pay. 

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7 hours ago, YANUKFIN said:

Nice contradiction. You got it right with the second part and Its a definite nerf in the near future for helios, absolute given.

Perhaps I didn't express myself clearly, but I meant it in a way that for many Helios may seem worth it, but they don't realize how easy it is to nerf an augment.

 

12 minutes ago, YANUKFIN said:

As you can see, 850,000

This is a direct upgrade to Mk-7. 

 

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6 hours ago, YANUKFIN said:

I have it on one account, MK6. 2 upgrades. To upgrade to MK6-level 3 will cost 850,000 cry. Way more than just "a lot".

 

11 minutes ago, YANUKFIN said:

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As you can see, 850,000. For 1 upgrade this is unacceptable. I used it as a 4th protection a few times and never really rated it.

That is not one micro-upgrade. That account you are on is evidently past Marshal and as such will need to purcahse Mk7 directly, which is what is costing the 850,000 crystals. 

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This is just one of many reasons why the developers get so many complaints, they change the mechanics (via updates) which usually lead to players being a lot worse off than they were before the update.

 

10 hours ago, TheCongoSpider said:

That is not one micro-upgrade. That account you are on is evidently past Marshal and as such will need to purcahse Mk7 directly, which is what is costing the 850,000 crystals. 

It's actually only a couple thousand into marshal rank. This account along with 3 others got mullered after the upgrade change. 

 

10 hours ago, frederik123456 said:

Perhaps I didn't express myself clearly,

By the way that's ok, the developers do it all the time. 

Can't remember posting that 3 times?

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Here you go a guide if you should buy the fund.
1.  Nuclear energy x1... if you need 1 nuclear energy for some reason then i guess buy the fund...? why would you need that..... whatever. just do challenge.

2. Normal containers sounds nice but out  of like 30 conts youll get like 20+ commons. at least youre guaranteed 2 Blue Drops. but its not worth your money or tankoins. Battle pass gives you even more normal conts with extra crystals and augments and skins.

3. If you have 3 Prot slots then this is amazing value!  if you buy 990 bundle then youll save 4k tankoins for a slot and get extra conts and all that as a bonus. If you have 4 slots this is completely useless. If you have 1-2 slots then i dont recommend buying it. just buy your slots in the garage for 50, 500 tankoins.

4. 30 ultra conts sounds cool but its just hot air, you'll get a lot of supplies... if you need a lot of supplies fast i recommend buying fund bundle. Also youre guaranteed 2 Purple drops. But you won't get enough supplies for a long run so buy at your own risk.

5. Skin cont is nice but do you want it? You CANNOT control what skin you'll get! you may get your least favourite skin while in challenge at least you can wait till skin you like shows up.

6. EMP hammer is a nice augment but its definitely not worth 900+ tankoins lol. even if you get extra conts as a bonus. Challenge pass will give you way more.

7. Helios is pure bait for F2P players, now helios is pure unfiltered cancer but if the fund reaches helios i can say with 90% certainty that it will be just barely batter than ricochet garage augments. also the chance of reaching Helios is very low.

8. LC hammer skin. if you have no taste and like LC hammer than buying the fund for it is worth it because i dont see LC hammer returning any time soon. well unless you like to buy 35k tankoin Skin conts.

9. Thunder, Scorpion and Tesla augments. Same as helios, pure bait. If the fund reaches these augments they'll be barely better than garage augments but if it never reaches the fund it will be Helios 2.0. The fund most likely will not reach those tiers.

10. Armadillo and Crisis. Armadillo costs a fortune to upgrade and as a person who has armadillo i can say this. The more i use Armadillo the worse it feels. Sacrificing 50% protection from 1 turret for armadillo is not worth it. Now crisis, that drone consumes Googolplex (its big number) supplies every battle even if you try to not switch much so unless you have near max garage crisis is not for you.

 

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8 minutes ago, Kimura said:

. Armadillo costs a fortune to upgrade and as a person who has armadillo i can say this. The more i use Armadillo the worse it feels

At last someone who is not fooled by the "ENDGAME" useless, mega supply using armadillo/crisis nonsense.

When crisis first came out it was by far THE best and THE most OP update they ever brought out. Helios is a child's plastic pretend gun compared to what crisis was pre mega nerf.

This is one of many reasons why I will never partake in any fund or buy ANYTHING, they always nerf it and then move onto the next OP update. A never ending copy/paste recycling of overpriced and at times misleading/overrated gimmicks.

They have lost me as a supporter of the game cash wise, I will never part with another dime, the game has not been worth it for at least 2/3 years now. 

Titan's dome, pre mega nerf, crisis, pre mega nerf, rico prot maxed and helios/paladin could fire away until the end of time and never take that player out, I mean never.

This just shows how much they nerf something that was OP and cost a lot to buy/upgrade once it's cash making days are over, because both are now useless at defending you against the enemy. There is just to much OP fire power in the game for either to make that much of a difference.

This and a whole lot more is why I will never buy again.  

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8 hours ago, NikmanGT said:

Everyone is waiting for the scenario, "If the fund reaches atleast this level or that level, we might participate in it"

i won't wait for that scenario because i ran out of tks and can't afford to that number in near future

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1 hour ago, Person_Random said:

Bets on how close this estimate will be to the actual value? ?

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I made my own guestimates a few days ago: 7m min - 9m most likely - 11m max. I think it will be somewhere in that range.

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4,3 M ?

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After Level 4, all prizes start becoming worth to obtain..... 

11 hours ago, Person_Random said:

Bets on how close this estimate will be to the actual value? ?

My approximate would be around 13 Million, if the fund boosts around Helios or around the 1 skin container, or the buyers get enticed by the Level 12 and 13 prizes.

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