update Patch Update #694 - Released 22nd July 2022

[Entropy 147]

On 7/24/2022 at 3:37 PM, Me0w_XP said:

Devs: Just get Helios xd. No UC? Buy them from the shop.

i'm desperate, i cant see rico like this, used to be my best turret

why the heck reduce range from 80m to 50, it killed main feature - damn bouncing from walls, pile of crap

m gonna search for this damned patch note

 

here we go: 

@Marcus for twins and ricochet this patch should be reverted, especially for ricochet

[Entropy 147]

On 7/24/2022 at 2:58 PM, Entropy said:

@Marcus as i know only you here have access to devs

can you send the developer a proposal to increase the range of ricochet?

i have few examples and more than enough gaming expirience on this turret (mine 210hrs vs opex's only 14hrs on rico) 

examples: bounce based status augments for emp and pierce

they severely lacking potential, because many walls appears way too far, even for basic bounce-trigger statuses, but it is their core function, i think range should be increased

other ricochet augs and base version have same issue, but not so blatantly

very please, i dont know how to tell opex this through other ways, ricochet remains like this for more than half a year

i can provide video, if needed, right a way found at least three places to prove

@frederik123456, @NikmanGT please

[NikmanGT 4,362]

On 7/24/2022 at 10:28 PM, Entropy said:

@frederik123456, @NikmanGT please

Hey there, 
We do not  have access direct to Devs. You can suggest the changes you would like to see with respect to the Turret in the I&S topic. We will forward it to Devs, then it's upto devs to decide on what to implement in the game. We just forward players' ideas.

[Entropy 147]

On 7/24/2022 at 8:28 PM, NikmanGT said:

Hey there, 
We do not  have access direct to Devs. You can suggest the changes you would like to see with respect to the Turret in the I&S topic. We will forward it to Devs, then it's upto devs to decide on what to implement in the game. We just forward players' ideas.

've created topic, hope for cooperation, since on ru forum no one care, despite larger auditory 

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 7/21/2022 at 8:27 AM, Marcus said:

 

• New augment for Thunder added to the updated Ultra Containers — «Hyperspeed shells»

  • (Note) The shell damage is reduced by 50% but only at close range. The greater the distance, the more damage you deal, up to 400% of regular damage. Shells fly faster, but critical damage is completely removed.

• Thunder

  • Critical damage decreased from 615-1230 to 600-1200 HP

  • «Salamander» shells, «Wyvern» shells, «Magneto» shells, «Peacekeeper» shells, and «Corrosion» shells augments

    • Critical damage decreased by 25%

    • Critical splash radius increased from 1 to 12 m.

    • (Note) Status effects are now applied to all targets in critical splash radius, not limited to just one opponent. This variant of settings fits the turret better.

Great. More improvements to Thunder's container augment selection while its garage augments continue to erode. 

 

Very funny to see that Hyperspeed Shells starts powercreeping Sledgehammer Rounds if the target is further than...23 metres. Wow. That's the maximum range of a High-Pressure Pump Firebird/Freeze. 

 

On 7/21/2022 at 8:27 AM, Marcus said:

• Critical splash radius increased from 1 to 12 m.

• (Note) Status effects are now applied to all targets in critical splash radius, not limited to just one opponent. This variant of settings fits the turret better.

You know what would also fit that better? Small Calibre Charging Machine. Y'know, that one augment whose mortal sin was dealing a decent amount of normal damage per shot for 2 weeks through no fault of its own? 

 

Are you really going to keep Thunder's garage augment variety stale? All you have to use is Adrenaline or an augment that takes away a core feature from it. 

[sea101 2]

It is clearly no fun to play against the hyperspeed shell, even with the max level hull and the protection. The big map is a nightmare with no place to hide. I'm quitting the game if someone has the hyperspeed. 

[LambSauce 1,884]

On 7/24/2022 at 11:14 PM, TheCongoSpider said:

Great. More improvements to Thunder's container augment selection while its garage augments continue to erode. 

 

Very funny to see that Hyperspeed Shells starts powercreeping Sledgehammer Rounds if the target is further than...23 metres. Wow. That's the maximum range of a High-Pressure Pump Firebird/Freeze. 

 

You know what would also fit that better? Small Calibre Charging Machine. Y'know, that one augment whose mortal sin was dealing a decent amount of normal damage per shot for 2 weeks through no fault of its own? 

 

Are you really going to keep Thunder's garage augment variety stale? All you have to use is Adrenaline or an augment that takes away a core feature from it. 

I see you’re still trying to rationalise various changes and optimise your equipment, but there’s no use.

There are plenty of decent MMORPGs out there - perfect for the mathematically-minded like yourself.

[Me0w_XP 523]

On 7/24/2022 at 9:40 AM, Entropy said:

why the heck reduce range from 80m to 50, just wtf, it killed main feature - damn bouncing from walls, pile of crap

 

Welp, it's just the way things go. You know how the devs are. Turrets like Railgun, Shaft, and Gauss have also been killed. And other stuff like Compact Fuel Tanks buffed. Like someone said, Rubberized Vulcan is better for bouncing than Ricochet these days.

[Cleric 1,385]

On 7/25/2022 at 4:37 AM, Entropy said:

've created topic, hope for cooperation, since on ru forum no one care, despite larger auditory 

Oh, even in here, no one cares as well, despite the helpers claimed they have forwarded the message, nothing will be changed

[NikmanGT 4,362]

On 7/25/2022 at 7:51 AM, Warpriest said:

Oh, even in here, no one cares as well, despite the helpers claimed they have forwarded the message, nothing will be changed

We do forward the Ideas actually, then it's up to the Devs. There is no such benefit for us in keeping the ideas to ourselves and not reporting it forward.

[Cleric 1,385]

On 7/25/2022 at 12:09 PM, NikmanGT said:

We do forward the Ideas actually, then it's up to the Devs. There is no such benefit for us in keeping the ideas to ourselves and not reporting it forward.

Yeah. I know. You guys forward those and your job its done. 

But as I said, none of those actually matters, because the Devs are clearly doing whatever the heck they want to do.

[Entropy 147]

On 7/25/2022 at 4:17 AM, Me0w_XP said:

Welp, it's just the way things go. You know how the devs are. Turrets like Railgun, Shaft, and Gauss have also been killed. And other stuff like Compact Fuel Tanks buffed. Like someone said, Rubberized Vulcan is better for bouncing than Ricochet these days.

opex extremely good with making game uncomfortable

you can even use really op combo, but the same time it could be unpleasant to play

 

alternativa pls hire me for gamedesign part time 

[YANUKFIN 493]

On 7/25/2022 at 7:33 AM, Warpriest said:

, because the Devs are clearly doing whatever the heck they want to do.

All about the  which is fine but:~

For all of TO's inherent flaws which start at recruit and continue at legend, players still insist on giving their  away with no long term benefits.

One of the biggest flaws starts at the beginning on your "not very long road" to legend, the XP/CRY ratio. This is the start of all your problems as you go through the ranks, becoming weaker with each rank up because you have not had enough time to build up your resources to at least make you competitive, not unless you buy from the start.

TO is unstable. There are just to many variants. The game is far to complicated and way overpriced.

I have been playing for over 10 years, have a legend account that is long past L50, all maxed out and I do not have a clue what most of the augments, crits do in battle.

Some players will say "It's all there for you to read about" here's the thing, I want to play a game, not have to read and study a vast and complicated novel that will do you no good in battle, regardless if you understand it or not, because there is just to much to contend with, way to much. 

The developers will not "dumb" the game down, they have to much invested in the complicated mess they have created.

They want player numbers to start going back up (which is beneficial to all concerned) start acting on player feedback that is beneficial to players without having a major impact on game economy. Reverse some of your updates that have crippled players who can't afford the exorbitant prices you ask for, just to play a game without being trashed every 30 seconds in battle. Increase XP/CRY by a much larger proportion, X5 would be good. This would help out a lot players and increase your revenue, as buying would become worth it because you (the player, especially the lower ranked players) would benefit more from the extra time gained at that particular rank, making spending a bit of cash both profitable to players and developers. Of course for this to work two things need to happen:~ 1. The developers have to implement this change and 2. The price of everything has to be lowered. Currently the price players have to pay is way beyond the means of the majority, which means the buyers will always be the minority, food for thought.

On a side note. Get rid of players names above their tanks, it is IMPOSSIBLE to see ANYTHING when players are close to each other. 

So much more to dissect, but I have said it all before and unless I turn this post into the longest post in history, I think that the developers should give some serious thought to the XP/CRY scenario and at the very least implement that into the game.

 

[Guest 7i77i7]

hi this is less so a question and more so feedback on the new center point in the game i think it is an interesting addition to the game and could be pretty useful if not for a couple things: firstly the center point doesn’t move up and down to adjust for the rocking of the tank, secondly the center point is only functions when you zero your camera on it and it takes a couple of test shots to make sure the point is actually on your shots if that makes sense. i think if you guys can figure out a way to make it so that you can accurately use the center point at any camera height and make it adjust for the rocking of the tank then it you be much more functional and if not then i would suggest scraping it all together. Pretty interesting tho and also it kinda does work all that well for turrets that shoot off center but whatever.

[Dopamine 2,161]

On 7/25/2022 at 10:23 PM, Guest 7i77i7 said:

 

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[Cleric 1,385]

On 7/25/2022 at 5:04 PM, YANUKFIN said:

All about the  which is fine but:~

For all of TO's inherent flaws which start at recruit and continue at legend, players still insist on giving their  away with no long term benefits.

One of the biggest flaws starts at the beginning on your "not very long road" to legend, the XP/CRY ratio. This is the start of all your problems as you go through the ranks, becoming weaker with each rank up because you have not had enough time to build up your resources to at least make you competitive, not unless you buy from the start.

TO is unstable. There are just to many variants. The game is far to complicated and way overpriced.

I have been playing for over 10 years, have a legend account that is long past L50, all maxed out and I do not have a clue what most of the augments, crits do in battle.

Some players will say "It's all there for you to read about" here's the thing, I want to play a game, not have to read and study a vast and complicated novel that will do you no good in battle, regardless if you understand it or not, because there is just to much to contend with, way to much. 

The developers will not "dumb" the game down, they have to much invested in the complicated mess they have created.

They want player numbers to start going back up (which is beneficial to all concerned) start acting on player feedback that is beneficial to players without having a major impact on game economy. Reverse some of your updates that have crippled players who can't afford the exorbitant prices you ask for, just to play a game without being trashed every 30 seconds in battle. Increase XP/CRY by a much larger proportion, X5 would be good. This would help out a lot players and increase your revenue, as buying would become worth it because you (the player, especially the lower ranked players) would benefit more from the extra time gained at that particular rank, making spending a bit of cash both profitable to players and developers. Of course for this to work two things need to happen:~ 1. The developers have to implement this change and 2. The price of everything has to be lowered. Currently the price players have to pay is way beyond the means of the majority, which means the buyers will always be the minority, food for thought.

On a side note. Get rid of players names above their tanks, it is IMPOSSIBLE to see ANYTHING when players are close to each other. 

So much more to dissect, but I have said it all before and unless I turn this post into the longest post in history, I think that the developers should give some serious thought to the XP/CRY scenario and at the very least implement that into the game.

 

And one more thing, some times some one proposed a really good idea that end up being implemented. Some times even copied and pasted. But the Devs never brother to credit those people. Not even mentioning their player name in the V-Log.

 

And BTW, the way this company handles PR is an absolute disaster.  

On 7/21/2022 at 8:27 PM, Marcus said:

Updated tankoin and crystal packs in the Shop. We haven’t changed the prices of any tankoin or crystal offers; we just changed the quantity per package

Who the heck would think it is a good idea to add the 2nd sentence? Especially when a few people in the company is doing community management for living. For god sake.

Edited July 26, 2022 by Warpriest

[Marcus 17,296]

On 7/24/2022 at 6:26 PM, max6782 said:

Marcus dont answer in forum topics he dont even answer to players in PM when important message if he even answer anything at all what a community manager he is. Developers dont play their own game. 

I do 

[Marcus 17,296]

On 7/24/2022 at 2:58 PM, Entropy said:

i can provide video, if needed, right a way found at least three places to prove

Yes, please

[YANUKFIN 493]

@Marcus Does indeed play TO.

Of course any player with a maxed out everything, MK7 (including every OP augment at his disposal if so needed) would indeed indulge in a little down time playing a few battles.

It must be nice knowing that cash is never going to be a problem when you get everything free.

I HAVE A CHALLENGE FOR YOU. Start at recruit like every newbie and work your way to legend without any HELP from the DEVELOPERS, only then will you (possibly) understand just how hard it is to enjoy any battle when you are getting trashed every day, because you do not have the funds to be competitive.

Will you @Marcus accept this challenge and document it as much as you can until you reach legend. You are not allowed to spend any cash whatsoever.

Your community manager, try going into battle like the majority of the player community, under powered, very little supplies, and no cash to spend.

One more thing. As for doing the gold tier in the challenge, i would like to see how long it takes you to save up the 700 tankoins to acquire the battle pass.

If you accept this challenge, good luck keeping your K/D above 1.

No help from any friends in battle, you do this on your own.

Edited July 26, 2022 by YANUKFIN

[LambSauce 1,884]

On 7/26/2022 at 1:10 PM, YANUKFIN said:

@Marcus Does indeed play TO.

Of course any player with a maxed out everything, MK7 (including every OP augment at his disposal if so needed) would indeed indulge in a little down time playing a few battles.

It must be nice knowing that cash is never going to be a problem when you get everything free.

I HAVE A CHALLENGE FOR YOU. Start at recruit like every newbie and work your way to legend without any HELP from the DEVELOPERS, only then will you (possibly) understand just how hard it is to enjoy any battle when you are getting trashed every day, because you do not have the funds to be competitive.

Will you @Marcus accept this challenge and document it as much as you can until you reach legend. You are not allowed to spend any cash whatsoever.

Your community manager, try going into battle like the majority of the player community, under powered, very little supplies, and no cash to spend.

One more thing. As for doing the gold tier in the challenge, i would like to see how long it takes you to save up the 700 tankoins to acquire the battle pass.

If you accept this challenge, good luck keeping your K/D above 1.

No help from any friends in battle, you do this on your own.

To be fair, @Marcus is just a player like the rest of us and his role as CM is just as a communicator of information from the devs. However I would love to see @Opex-Rah attempt this challenge if he had the time of course.

The truth is, the devs know their product is crap and they wouldn’t spend a penny on it themselves because it can no longer compete with any of the MUCH better MMO games out there. To them, TO is now nothing but a money-making experiment.

[Entropy 147]

On 7/26/2022 at 1:55 PM, Marcus said:

Yes, please

wow hello 

created topic in I&S: 

 

Edited July 26, 2022 by Entropy

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 7/21/2022 at 8:27 AM, Marcus said:

 

• Night themes for the following maps are added to matchmaking format:

  • Aleksandrovsk

  • Barda

  • Bobruisk

  • Berlin

  • Brest

  • Bridges

  • Chernobyl

  • Chernushka

  • Cologne

  • Cross

• Evening theme for the Highland map as default one

I'm loving the ambience of the night theme so far. Thankfully it is not too dark and is a much needed breathe of fresh air after I keep getting the bright winter theme the majority of the time. 

 

I've only been to the new Highland once or twice. Both day and evening are fine on their own. 

[Cleric 1,385]

Nah, everything is fine. Totally not OP at all. What could possibly go wrong?

BTW, he played CP like it is a TDM the entire game. And guess what? He gets the highest score.

Edited July 27, 2022 by Warpriest

[SporkZilla 1,775]

On 7/27/2022 at 1:00 PM, Warpriest said:

Nah, everything is fine. Totally not OP. What could possibly go wrong?

BTW, he played CP like it is a TDM. And guess what? He gets the highest score.

hyperspeed will be the new helios when helios is nerfed

I'll hunt down players like them with wasp / hornet with vamp isida or freeze and trickster, but some of them will surround themselves with mines like one of them did on skylark recently

I'd like a minimum cap or release requirement in CP to force everyone to interact with the points instead of kill farming

If you don't reach it, no crystals

[Fenrir 335]

Got the Salamander Shells thrown at me. You trade off 25% of crit damage for four ticks of burning (at best) and those crits don't happen often either. It's kinda wack, but that's to be expected since Hyperspeed Shells are here to make the ching-ching.