esports Winter eSports TankiFund 2023

[Gabku 194]

On 12/8/2023 at 4:42 PM, PirateSpider said:

Well then where's this "evidence" you speak of?

You cannot be serious right now...Tanki fund last winter?? We reached over 60 million

 

On 12/8/2023 at 4:42 PM, PirateSpider said:

I mean if the devs didn't keep holding all the unnecessary extra events like wild west, ice age, preparty, etc. The real events that really mattered would have been so much more valuable. Even the tanki fund and challenges could have more rewards in them and not just filler.

That was not my question, what I asked was: does 500k+ crystals, 5-10k supplies, 5+ skins, and 100+ nuclear energies worth 600 Tankoins or not? Because even a blind man can see how ridiculously cheap that would be.

On 12/9/2023 at 8:21 AM, PirateSpider said:

Yup and expecting the players to go 100% when the devs couldn't even be bothered to meet us halfway is just wrong.

So instead of gaslighting other players into buying the fund, @Gabkuand other players who have been complaining about the slow progression should go to every social media platform that tanki has and start bombarding them with complaints of "50 tiers is too much" "too much filler" "rewards are lackluster" etc.

"50 tiers is too much" I don't know who were the ones complaining about not getting more rewards when the fund was only 20 levels and we reached 30-60 millions..everyone was like "just give us something, doesn't matter what just give us some extra rewards like containers or crystals " And now that you get extra rewards, you complain about that?? I swear to God you guys just can't accept anything if it's not gonna make your account look like someone spent $10.000 on it... Instead of taking the easy way out and waiting to get something broken, why don't you get skilled at the game and then you can be a pro with whatever Tanki gives you?

Don't quote me on this because I'm not sure, but wasn't originally the collection of Tankoins the main event in this? And these rewards just something you got on the side like "you did a good job, here have these" Seems to me nowdays all people care about are the rewards, when it wasn't even meant to be the main attraction smh...

[Akame 4,578]

On 12/9/2023 at 8:49 AM, Gabku said:

 

"50 tiers is too much" I don't know who were the ones complaining about not getting more rewards when the fund was only 20 levels and we reached 30-60 millions..everyone was like "just give us something, doesn't matter what just give us some extra rewards like containers or crystals " And now that you get extra rewards, you complain about that??

This was the main issue, players kept asking for more tiers, so they added more a lot more tiers on purpose, naturally they wouldn't keep the low 15 great anymore because that's throwing in too many freebies...

25 would be a sweet spot, but tanki want to make a profit, so they'll keep most good items on the last 20 for most part, cuz that way they'd generate some form of money.

Let's not forget 10% of this also goes to esports players. Never personally liked the esports funds, they don't need to cut a portion of this for the cybersports, they can make individual rewards.

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 12/9/2023 at 12:49 AM, Gabku said:

You cannot be serious right now...Tanki fund last winter?? We reached over 60 million

I wasn't able to take part in the fund last year.

On 12/9/2023 at 12:49 AM, Gabku said:

That was not my question, what I asked was: does 500k+ crystals, 5-10k supplies, 5+ skins, and 100+ nuclear energies worth it or not?

 Its not worth it if we have to spend nearly 100 million tankoins or make 50 thousand accounts to buy the small bundle that many times just to complete the fund.

On 12/9/2023 at 12:49 AM, Gabku said:

Instead of taking the easy way out and waiting to get something broken, why don't you get skilled at the game and then you can be a pro with whatever Tanki gives you?

Why should I bother improving my skills in a game that doesn't even work properly?

On 12/9/2023 at 12:49 AM, Gabku said:

Don't quote me on this because I'm not sure, but wasn't originally the collection of Tankoins the main event in this? And these rewards just something you got on the side like "you did a good job, here have these" Seems to me nowdays all people care about are the rewards, when it wasn't even meant to be the main attraction smh...

If the funds aren't all about the rewards, then what's the true purpose of them?

On 12/9/2023 at 12:49 AM, Gabku said:

50 tiers is too much" I don't know who were the ones complaining about not getting more rewards when the fund was only 20 levels and we reached 30-60 millions..everyone was like "just give us something, doesn't matter what just give us some extra rewards like containers or crystals " And now that you get extra rewards, you complain about that??

 

On 12/9/2023 at 1:09 AM, Akame said:

This was the main issue, players kept asking for more tiers, so they added more a lot more tiers on purpose, naturally they wouldn't keep the low 15 great anymore because that's throwing in too many freebies...

Well the devs should've made small increases like adding 5 more slots each time until it was perfect rather than just adding an outrageous 30 more tiers.

On 12/9/2023 at 1:09 AM, Akame said:

25 would be a sweet spot, but tanki want to make a profit, so they'll keep most good items on the last 20 for most part, cuz that way they'd generate some form of money.

Ironically, in an effort to make more money, they have demotivated the players into buying the fund, which means they'll make less money now and going forward.

[Akame 4,578]

On 12/9/2023 at 6:01 PM, PirateSpider said:

 

Ironically, in an effort to make more money, they have demotivated the players into buying the fund, which means they'll make less money now and going forward.

Not sure if it really matters, with the amounts of bundles, challenges, elite passes, challenge accepted and other events in place. They have plenty of money sink backups that will reel in a bit from players nonetheless.
I'm sure a bunch of players are waitin for the snow trap event too, which is usually paywalled. Wasp IC potential this year unless they move it towards an elite pass.

[PirateSpider 1,489]

On 12/10/2023 at 5:02 AM, Akame said:

I'm sure a bunch of players are waitin for the snow trap event too, which is usually paywalled. Wasp IC potential this year unless they move it towards an elite pass.

Maybe the snow trap event will have better rewards than this fund.

[Akame 4,578]

On 12/10/2023 at 5:44 PM, PirateSpider said:

Maybe the snow trap event will have better rewards than this fund.

Time shall tell, thought Hornet 'lifesaver' could be one of the augs in it

[wild001 1,422]

I have not buy the bundle yet, still just 15M, far from 30M hunter GT or any augment or a skin.

Do you think i should buy it?

[krokorok 837]

On 12/14/2023 at 4:08 AM, wild001 said:

I have not buy the bundle yet, still just 15M, far from 30M hunter GT or any augment or a skin.

Do you think i should buy it?

Current value:

Gauss GT Skin

30 Regular Containers

6 Weekly Containers (600 Supplies of each, 30k crystals, 48Tkns)

5 Ultra Containers

2 NEs, module slot, bunch of Mono paints

15%-20% chance to get a lot of tankoins back (around 7k-8k if I am not mistaken)

I think for you as an endgame player, the biggest profit comes from the chance of getting a lot of tankoins back. Depends on how tight on Tankoins you are and whether you are ready to bet on that 1/5 - 1/6 chance to get the tankoins back.

 

[emrakul 7,801]

I've done my part, bought the fund where I considered it worth. This fund is likely to end up as the worst one in a while, if not ever.
 

On 12/14/2023 at 4:08 AM, wild001 said:

I have not buy the bundle yet, still just 15M, far from 30M hunter GT or any augment or a skin.

Do you think i should buy it?

If only middle bundles were purchased, the chance to win WOULD be 18.75%. Small bundles drag the chance to 12.5% and big bundles can drag it over 18.75%. I don't think the number of big purchases is significant enough, the chance will most likely stay between 12.5 and 18.75, maybe 15% or 16%. 1/6 chance is still nice, but far from guaranteed win.

So I agree with the post above, those items probably aren't worth the price. The only value is in winning, or well, the chance to win. If you can comfortably grind back tankoins for next fund, it's probably still the best option, in long run it *should* pay off.
 

I skipped some low accounts, which had less than 2k tankoins, because I think there won't be too many opportunities for free tankoins such as ToA, and it's more likely I won't be able to earn enough for next fund if I bought this one.

[MEXICAN-SKY 308]

On 12/14/2023 at 10:40 AM, emrakul said:

If only middle bundles were purchased

If only they would lower their sky high asking price.

If only they would stop filling everything up with USELESS paints.

If only they would FIX THE GAME, if only!

 

[MEXICAN-SKY 308]

Deserves to fail.

[Cure 138]

On 12/14/2023 at 3:40 PM, emrakul said:

I've done my part, bought the fund where I considered it worth. This fund is likely to end up as the worst one in a while, if not ever.
 

If only middle bundles were purchased, the chance to win WOULD be 18.75%. Small bundles drag the chance to 12.5% and big bundles can drag it over 18.75%. I don't think the number of big purchases is significant enough, the chance will most likely stay between 12.5 and 18.75, maybe 15% or 16%. 1/6 chance is still nice, but far from guaranteed win.

So I agree with the post above, those items probably aren't worth the price. The only value is in winning, or well, the chance to win. If you can comfortably grind back tankoins for next fund, it's probably still the best option, in long run it *should* pay off.
 

I skipped some low accounts, which had less than 2k tankoins, because I think there won't be too many opportunities for free tankoins such as ToA, and it's more likely I won't be able to earn enough for next fund if I bought this one.

If only they would not consider us as fish, to be baited by the end prizes

[TESL4 426]

Watch out, several people are recently hitting the laptop running tanki servers and shutting its lid. Put a note on it or something, so the server doesnt get shut down so often?

 

[2shots2kills 2,364]

On 12/16/2023 at 6:58 PM, Cure said:

If only they would not consider us as fish, to be baited by the end prizes

If only the average player/buyer was smarter than a fish, then who knows, maybe...

[SvinafellTroll 94]

On 12/16/2023 at 12:14 PM, MEXICAN-SKY said:

Deserves to fail.

People keep saying the fund "failed", but it's actually a total success for TO devs.

1. they made some money off of those who bought tankcoins to buy in

2. By historical standards, this is a great fund, considering how terrible the prizes are. Here are the fund totals before the winter TOA last year (and it has already worn off, since there have been 3 funds since that TOA and a lot of events). 

Fund 1: 9.2 MM

Fund 2: 10.6 MM

Fund 3: 15.4 MM

 

If you guys really wanted the fund to fail, you should've worked to keep it under 5 MM. 

[ZAINWAJIH 72]

when will we get rewards ?

when will be livestream?

[tsk 0]

When will tanki fund rewards be given?

[0cean 42]

LOL，16/50

[Photophosphorylation 16]

On 12/17/2023 at 11:28 AM, 0cean said:

LOL，16/50

It's actually not that bad since the prizes for early levels are trash.

 

On 12/16/2023 at 8:29 PM, SvinafellTroll said:

People keep saying the fund "failed", but it's actually a total success for TO devs.

1. they made some money off of those who bought tankcoins to buy in

2. By historical standards, this is a great fund, considering how terrible the prizes are. Here are the fund totals before the winter TOA last year (and it has already worn off, since there have been 3 funds since that TOA and a lot of events). 

Fund 1: 9.2 MM

Fund 2: 10.6 MM

Fund 3: 15.4 MM

 

If you guys really wanted the fund to fail, you should've worked to keep it under 5 MM. 

Check these, we didn't have huge token of apology this year, last year you could get 3k+ tcs on every single account, with just loging in every day.

[Tekken 374]

*Winners of the giveaway are players randomly chosen among those who bought the themed special offers. We will choose participants live on the stream, which will happen on December 18th. The number of winners depends on the number of special offers purchased.

Edited December 17, 2023 by Tekken8

[emrakul 7,801]

Time to go back on my predictions.

On 11/16/2023 at 2:58 PM, emrakul said:

Those last few tiers look great, but unless last year repeats itself (massive token of apology), there's almost no chance to finish it.

This wasn't a surprise

On 11/16/2023 at 2:58 PM, emrakul said:

My "every fund is always statistically worth it" theory still stands, for a f2p players it's worth buying this one, even if it only reaches 20m.

Damn, I actually mentioned the 20m mark, or rather 19m which was very important. Not getting the extra mil hurts more than you think, it translates to about 300 tankoin loss per winner, which probably seems like nothing, but that's the little part making the fund not just "statistically worth it", but instead a little bit of free profit.

On 11/16/2023 at 2:58 PM, emrakul said:

I'm guessing 26m, because it's been a while since last fund, grinders had time to save up tankoins for this and others forgot about the last one.

Yay... I guessed one of the numbers correctly!
Honestly, I'm still a bit surprised. The token of apology gave enough tankoins for 3 tanki funds (almost for 4), and so far we only had 2. I guess it's a combination of people not logging in daily to collect all 3k tankoins from the token of apology, spending the earned tankoins on random events or battle passes, skipping this fund after the realization from the last fund, or skipping because they waited until the fund reaches the good guaranteed prizes.

[Dopamine 2,161]

On 12/17/2023 at 12:22 PM, emrakul said:

Yay... I guessed one of the numbers correctly!
Honestly, I'm still a bit surprised. The token of apology gave enough tankoins for 3 tanki funds (almost for 4), and so far we only had 2. I guess it's a combination of people not logging in daily to collect all 3k tankoins from the token of apology, spending the earned tankoins on random events or battle passes, skipping this fund after the realization from the last fund, or skipping because they waited until the fund reaches the good guaranteed prizes.

I myself was really on edge about taking part in this one. After all, I bought the 1k offer to get rid of the skin from skin conts + the lottery.

For F2Ps in general though, I can hardly justify buying in.

[Gabku 194]

On 12/16/2023 at 6:58 PM, Cure said:

If only they would not consider us as fish, to be baited by the end prizes

https://ibb.co/9ryKhV2

"ADDITIONAL Bonuses"

Seriously do any of you know what that means? The main event is the collection of Tankoins, these rewards were never meant to be the main point of these funds... Basing how good a fund is on the bonus gifts is already wrong to begin with. I would not be surprised if in the future Tanki just ditched the whole idea of giving rewards and only kept the Tankoins part of the funds. At least then we would only have grateful people participating, even if it means we get no more than a few millions collected. Tanki would not lose anything by doing this since most of the complainings come from free to players anyway, the people who are willing to pay for Tankoins would do it either way, so Tanki won't be losing out on money.

[Photophosphorylation 16]

On 12/17/2023 at 12:22 PM, emrakul said:

Time to go back on my predictions.

This wasn't a surprise

Damn, I actually mentioned the 20m mark, or rather 19m which was very important. Not getting the extra mil hurts more than you think, it translates to about 300 tankoin loss per winner, which probably seems like nothing, but that's the little part making the fund not just "statistically worth it", but instead a little bit of free profit.

Yay... I guessed one of the numbers correctly!
Honestly, I'm still a bit surprised. The token of apology gave enough tankoins for 3 tanki funds (almost for 4), and so far we only had 2. I guess it's a combination of people not logging in daily to collect all 3k tankoins from the token of apology, spending the earned tankoins on random events or battle passes, skipping this fund after the realization from the last fund, or skipping because they waited until the fund reaches the good guaranteed prizes.

Actually good point.

As a f2p player I can say, that I made mistake buying some battle passes in the past (although I got hornet and railgun XT). In my opinion the best way to spent tcs is to buy tanki fund bundle or to participate in events with small fee (like Arcade last year).

 

Btw, where is Arcade event this year???

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 12/17/2023 at 8:20 AM, Photophosphorylation said:

Btw, where is Arcade event this year???

Why do you assume it's a yearly event?