update Patch Update #763 - Released 17th May 2024

[Muscularity 160]

I've been experiencing ping drop lot more frequently this week, despite having very good wifi and laptop. Hope the new servers fix this

[cooltanki 25]

On 5/21/2024 at 9:30 PM, Tekken8 said:

块数量减少可以简单地解释为其他炮塔的增强器损坏，您需要对它们进行保护。前锋现在几乎是强制性的。双胞胎现在已经打破了增强，你需要保护它。蝎子、大酒瓶、轴......当然，人们会更喜欢远程炮塔的保护而不是锤子，如果你对对手有威胁并且你打得非常好，他们会选择保护你。我是伊西达主力，当我打得好时，我看到球员即使在对阵伊西达时也会选择保护......这并不是认为 Hammer 现在很弱的好论据。突击弹匣。它比近炮塔更好，因为你有更好的射程，当你足够近时，你的DPS会更高。

我不知道你为什么认为我与低等级比赛，但这是错误的。我的传奇 alt acc 上有攻击杂志，尽管我对传奇等级 MM 的保护很弱，但我通常最终会进入前 3 名。

Hammer 突击杂志发布时坏了，你希望开发人员保持这种状态而不是削弱它？？浮士德也被削弱了，看伙计......游戏规则改变和元也是......你希望一个炮塔/增强器被 OP/损坏多年吗？

1009 DPS对你来说很弱？雷霆 - 450，rico - 700，冻结 - 800（包括重新加载），火鸟 - 800 太，特斯拉 - 840 你还想要什么？

You say that dps outstrips melee turrets, it doesn't, and assault magazines don't always deal full damage in melee range due to the reduced number of bullets, don't you take that into account, and while directly exposed to the range of melee turrets, how do you explain that assault magazines don't win melee battles in most cases, Without considering the Hull argument, in today's legendary battles, many players don't even turn the turret, why would I think you're only playing against low levels, because in the real 9999 battle, Assault Magazine is already rotten, and the first place gets 1000 points using broken enhancements like Tandem, Twin's turbo launcher, Assault magazine only has 500 points. What does the ranking say? And my point isn't to make a point about assault magazines, but hammer isn't as good as it used to be, doesn't do enough damage, and is almost unusable in top combat

[hatty12345 7]

On 5/22/2024 at 6:07 AM, cooltanki said:

You say that dps outstrips melee turrets, it doesn't, and assault magazines don't always deal full damage in melee range due to the reduced number of bullets, don't you take that into account, and while directly exposed to the range of melee turrets, how do you explain that assault magazines don't win melee battles in most cases, Without considering the Hull argument, in today's legendary battles, many players don't even turn the turret, why would I think you're only playing against low levels, because in the real 9999 battle, Assault Magazine is already rotten, and the first place gets 1000 points using broken enhancements like Tandem, Twin's turbo launcher, Assault magazine only has 500 points. What does the ranking say? And my point isn't to make a point about assault magazines, but hammer isn't as good as it used to be, doesn't do enough damage, and is almost unusable in top combat

I played with you & against you in many MM battles. I completely agree with you regarding Assault Magazine augment. The moment I saw this update, in my first comment, I said this nerf absolutely pathetic. 

@Tekken8 may not have complete knowledge abt this augment or his style of play is not solo frontline attack like you. Those who play defensive or back-up for solo attacking teammates will not mind with this stupid nerf. I  play like you & I understand & fully support your point of view abt this present hammer turret. 

[Akame 4,577]

On 5/16/2024 at 2:04 PM, Marcus said:

 

• Shaft

  • Min. sniping damage increased from 335-670 to 355-710 HP

Nobody probably cares but this buff did not happen from what I have tested.

[Stealth 562]

On 5/22/2024 at 10:00 AM, Akame said:

Nobody probably cares but this buff did not happen from what I have tested.

I will investigate this, you are the second person who pointed this out.

[Blessing 27]

This patch notes were awesome. Thank you so much for your hard work on this game developers ! Keep up the good work! 

[Over-Power 50]

On 5/23/2024 at 9:17 PM, Stealth said:

I will investigate this, you are the second person who pointed this out.

Can you also investigate the gauss aiming problem 

When i use it i always aim twice

When i aim and the circle reaches half, it resets then shoot

It happenes literally every time i aim

[squirrellover 11]

On 5/22/2024 at 12:00 PM, Akame said:

Nobody probably cares but this buff did not happen from what I have tested.

We care! Thanks. 

[x_Sorinel_x 552]

On 5/16/2024 at 4:04 PM, Marcus said:

The logic of the Miner augment has been changed for all hulls.

• Instead of a fixed number of protected mines, the augment now retains only 70% of the mines placed after each respawn of the tank with Miner.

• The saved mines are chosen randomly

• (Note) The previous mechanic allowed mines to be placed much more frequently by self-destructing the tank after each mine placement. The new mechanic not only prevents accelerated mining, but also adds counterplay. Now, attackers have the option of accelerating demining by destroying the Miner, and the Miner must remember to protect themselves in order to maintain the maximum number of mines in defense.

Still not enough... Still full with crap miners, in all battles.

[Akame 4,577]

On 5/25/2024 at 11:36 AM, x_Sorinel_x said:

Still not enough... Still full with crap miners, in all battles.

Pretty useless without specific drones, try using miner in BONK mode, better off with lfg/blaster.

[cx2014 182]

On 5/22/2024 at 5:29 AM, hatty12345 said:

I played with you & against you in many MM battles. I completely agree with you regarding Assault Magazine augment. The moment I saw this update, in my first comment, I said this nerf absolutely pathetic. 

@Tekken8 may not have complete knowledge abt this augment or his style of play is not solo frontline attack like you. Those who play defensive or back-up for solo attacking teammates will not mind with this stupid nerf. I  play like you & I understand & fully support your point of view abt this present hammer turret. 

To me the worst Hammer nerfs were done before for all the other Augments like "Dragon's Breath" that used the Status Effects at each 3rd shot instead at only each Critical Shot as it is right now!

Edited May 26, 2024 by cx2014

[Romantically 282]

On 5/22/2024 at 2:37 AM, cooltanki said:

And my point isn't to make a point about assault magazines, but hammer isn't as good as it used to be, doesn't do enough damage, and is almost unusable in top combat

AM is still one of the most fun offensive alts you can have. Hammer in itself rn is fantastic and I'd argue it's in the best position it has been since long.
I've been maining Hammer/viking since 2019 or 18 so I know how it was before.

[sweetwillie111 25]

On 5/24/2024 at 2:34 AM, Over-Power said:

Can you also investigate the gauss aiming problem 

When i use it i always aim twice

When i aim and the circle reaches half, it resets then shoot

It happenes literally every time i aim

I actually came in here looking for a comment like this. I have been having the same issue for months now and it is getting super annoying lately. Almost every time now that I go into sniping mode for gauss, the aiming system does a double aim where you get to an almost full shot, then suddenly it resets and your aiming time starts all over again. Can someone higher up please investigate this issue? It is almost as if Gauss is purposely getting nerfed with this bug because it seems that no one has tried to patch it.

Edited May 26, 2024 by sweetwillie111

[cooltanki 25]

@RomanticallyI mainly point out that hammer's performance is not satisfactory recently, and assault magazine has experienced so many nerf, it may still be interesting, but not powerful, hammer itself is very good, but after several turret adjustments, hammer's ranking in the turret combined with the strength of argument. Now it should be ranked in the middle and lower reaches, the intensity is not enough, and the performance is poor in the battle where everyone is 9999gs

[Romantically 282]

On 5/27/2024 at 7:34 AM, cooltanki said:

@RomanticallyI mainly point out that hammer's performance is not satisfactory recently, and assault magazine has experienced so many nerf, it may still be interesting, but not powerful, hammer itself is very good, but after several turret adjustments, hammer's ranking in the turret combined with the strength of argument. Now it should be ranked in the middle and lower reaches, the intensity is not enough, and the performance is poor in the battle where everyone is 9999gs

I don't know what you play but I'd say Hammer right now is in one of the best eras it has had, I don't know your playstyle and your experience but it's my own experience and many people agree with me, but I understand you may have different experience and opinion.

[W4R 169]

Only nerf I want to see.......  Banning of the flaying hacks/hulls..... Hoppers should be subject to same self destruct as other hulls, when out of bounds... Not being able to sit on top of buildings out of reach of fire from other players.

Infact- just go back to keyboard players, and level the playing field, as the PC player, is so much at a disadvantage now.

[ILLUSION-ZONE 45]

The new sound for the rail magic shot effect sounds awful, it's such a pity they decided to change this as it sounded perfect the way it was. The visual shot effect update for rail now looks so awesome. 

Edited May 27, 2024 by ILLUSION-ZONE

[Bracco 23]

Smoky has been really hit hard by this patch. All my Smoky augments have been affected for worse. No patch for the actual OP augments.

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

On 5/27/2024 at 4:35 PM, Hotchy said:

Only nerf I want to see.......  Banning of the flaying hacks/hulls..... Hoppers should be subject to same self destruct as other hulls, when out of bounds... Not being able to sit on top of buildings out of reach of fire from other players.

Infact- just go back to keyboard players, and level the playing field, as the PC player, is so much at a disadvantage now.

to make _{flying monkey} balanced you need to first take of it's obviously unfair advantages that apply to all of these ape types. 

1. Sliding or 'strafe'. 

its the biggest advantage of the _monkey due to it's position when strafing these disgusting ""tanks"" are factually and you literally cannot disagree here no matter how much you 'magnum ride' (IYKYK) these things, are at least 2 times harder to hit compared to an actual Tank in the same position. Good luck hitting these _{rust buckets} on a big map and may the lord be with you if you're playing on a laptop or a small display and it's the _ho***r you're trying to hit. They already ALMOST fixed it by killing their acceleration and making it slow as hell which makes them actually being possible to hit even ignoring the position of them already giving you a disadvantage. But they secretly reverted this change for some unknown to lord reason. 

2. It's no clipping everything. 

now i'd say this is a server issue but the amount of times you no clip through someone using a Tank compared to using a _monkey is just WAY TOO HIGH for it to be just a funny coincidence. You know there is 0 reason for the "dead corpse staying in battles for an hour" update if _{flying rust buckets} can just easily no clip through it like nothing happened. In the new test server at least from the ~10 battles I played _{the monkey} is not no clipping through everything anymore. Like I said earlier i'd blame it on their servers but if you no clip through a dead tank using a Tank 1/10 times but then you no clip through dead tank like 8/10 times using _{the monkey}. 

 

after these nerfs it should be on par with actual Tanks. if not then nerf the next most overpowered "feature" that it has.

[Akame 4,577]

On 5/27/2024 at 2:35 PM, Hotchy said:

 Hoppers should be subject to same self destruct as other hulls, when out of bounds...

Just to remind you, the self destruct zones are the same for everyone, it's just obviously far more easier for a hopper to hop to those spots, not sure how many actively try this often, I have hardly seen many of these over the past year since the nerfs.

I think you mean to say 'Increase self destruct spots on maps on rooftops etc' instead.

On 5/27/2024 at 6:39 PM, Kimura said:

But they secretly reverted this change for some unknown to lord reason. 

I assure you, nothing has actually been any helpful anywhere near to what it was upon the year of release. It is still subpar to play with unless you face a bunch of avg players who can't hit a tank right there that is pretty much 1 shot unless they are frontloaded with defensive attributes and a lifeguard and/or healer. It takes just a little projectile and it's possible to flip in air with ease, even a touching of any structure or tank. You must have surely seen a few gifs of me flipping over in the most ridiculous manner over general touch and go interactions and barely managing to land half the times, it's clearly evident of the terrible instability and impact reaction of it.

On the other side, the hitreg in this game is often so bad that basic things that should hit, do not, seen it happen on both sides of the interactions, that stuff isn't exclusive to the flying monkey itself, it's just the game being it's good old self, like our fav and not limited to striker missile visuals hitting elsewhere but damaging etc.

[cooltanki 25]

On 5/27/2024 at 6:06 PM, Romantically said:

I don't know what you play but I'd say Hammer right now is in one of the best eras it has had, I don't know your playstyle and your experience but it's my own experience and many people agree with me, but I understand you may have different experience and opinion.

Like tokken8, I met him yesterday, he is using freeze, he also said hammer is the best time, why the best time, he doesn't play hammer, a turret after several nerf is the best time, are you being sarcastic? Powerful hammer, but few people use it. I am often the only one using hammer in a match. Why do you think many people agree with you?

[Over-Power 50]

For me hammer was my best turret, till they nerfed the Sh*t out of it's impact force..

Now it's like hitting them with freeze or firebird, instead of a true shutgun..

[Romantically 282]

On 5/28/2024 at 2:18 AM, cooltanki said:

Like tokken8, I met him yesterday, he is using freeze, he also said hammer is the best time, why the best time, he doesn't play hammer, a turret after several nerf is the best time, are you being sarcastic? Powerful hammer, but few people use it. I am often the only one using hammer in a match. Why do you think many people agree with you?

For something to be good you don't need to play it everyday, I usually play Hypersped Rail because I don't feel like playing much besides daily missions, but when I play out of enjoyment I'm happy to take Hammer viking, I could take healing shaft and play SGE and get 1k score per match but I don't. You know why? I just don't wanna, just because something is strong doesn't mean you have to play it 24/7 and nothing else, recently i took LCP hammer on my alt and it's performing more than wonderfully, even before TC event i used slugger (regular one) and still had good time playing effectively. Recently I got into a match where 6 people had Isida prot since beginning, does it mean Isida is OP?

[Tekken 374]

On 5/28/2024 at 2:18 AM, cooltanki said:

Like tokken8, I met him yesterday, he is using freeze, he also said hammer is the best time, why the best time, he doesn't play hammer, a turret after several nerf is the best time, are you being sarcastic? Powerful hammer, but few people use it. I am often the only one using hammer in a match. Why do you think many people agree with you?

I have assault magazine on my alternate account and I play hammer mainly there. Just because I tend to change turrets and hulls  to make my game more interesting does not mean that Hammer is weak and  have to play with  Hammer 24/7  just because I said that it is at best I ever experienced it since I came back in 2023.  

On 5/27/2024 at 7:34 AM, cooltanki said:

mainly point out that hammer's performance is not satisfactory recently, and assault magazine has experienced so many nerf, it may still be interesting, but not powerful, hammer itself is very good, but after several turret adjustments, hammer's ranking in the turret combined with the strength of argument. Now it should be ranked in the middle and lower reaches, the intensity is not enough, and the performance is poor in the battle where everyone is 9999gs

Assault magazine was broken when it came into game nerf does not mean its bad now its just more balanced.  You think spear is now after "nerf" balanced and not OP ? You think shaft healing emitter now after 15 % overall dmg nerf is not  OP ( its still best healing augment) 

Same goes for assault magazine, just because its not broken anymore does not mean its bad.  Maybe you should try play  also with other augments not just hunter duplet. I usually dont have problem to perfrom very well with other hammer augments. 

[Akame 4,577]

Don't know why people are arguing over old patches for most part here, meta's come and go, get used to it

On 5/28/2024 at 11:45 AM, Tekken8 said:

You think shaft healing emitter now after 15 % overall dmg nerf is not  OP ( its still best healing augment) 

 

Assuming you can aim well enough, thunder nanobots is actually better now