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Coming back to Tanki after 3 years, come to find the devs have really lost touch with what Tanki stands for. Less players active than there are people on the dev team it almost feels like.

Let's see here, changes to undo:

- Bring back battle list
Removing freedom of choice in the battles we go into takes away a lot of what Tanki was meant for. Having a long list of matches on a wide variety of maps, gave a strong sense of freedom that was taken away and replaced with quick battles.

- Remove tankcoins
A lot of content is tied to tankcoins, such as being able to even progress through the game! You cant get the next tier of turret or hull without spending REAL money. (A lot of it too!)

- Fix matchmaking
Master Sergeants and Brigadiers in the same battle? That's insane! Let's take a moment to remember why that has to be. When you make anti-consumer updates for 6 years you go from 70k players to a mere few hundred. Let that sink in.

- Make alterations buyable again
I think I speak for a lot of people (If they were here) when I say that tying alterations to containers was a terrible idea. I get you want players to spend money, but you wont have players spending money when they're chased away. But don't worry, you can nab these alterations at a chance of 0.0023% and 0.0047% from common and epic containers respectively, but then it's RNG?

-Bring back M0/M1/M2/M3 models
A HUGE part of Tanki was grinding to a high enough rank to get that sweet new tier upgrade, along with the cool new model associated with it! A testament to your hard work and effort and diligence to playing the game for so long! Imagine the feelings of the players who finally managed to fully M3 their favorite tank, just for everyone to have it all of a sudden?

- Remove auto destruct
The feeling of adrenaline from managing to nab a flag from the enemy, but in your stupor, you flipped your tank onto your side? Not to worry, you can flip it back over! Not anymore. No more clutching, no more fun. Auto destruct really was a silly change to a non-existent problem.

It's heartbreaking to see the game that I'd enjoyed so much back in school on my school chromebook back in 2015 be reduced to embers and ashes of the legendary game it once used to be. I'm not sure why the mentality changed from adding cool new features like alterations, to seeing just how much money can be wrung out? Is there a new game in store? Tnaki X didn't go well, I don't think another new game would be any different. Not to mention the resources the devs DO have are put to remastering maps? Why make prettier maps when there's hardly anyone to enjoy them? Chances are this won't get through to anyone, but I want to wish there's still hope.

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Hey, unfortunately we do not accept Ideas regarding Reversion of updates as per the Rule 2.e of the I&S.

And mainly, a game aims to move forward at all costs, developing over time and adapting new methods. Reversion to year olds update will not only require a huge amount of investment for the project, but is also unnecessary and not very feasible.

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On 5/31/2024 at 11:05 PM, Sliced said:

Remove tankcoins
A lot of content is tied to tankcoins, such as being able to even progress through the game! You cant get the next tier of turret or hull without spending REAL money. (A lot of it too!)

Each turret and hull costs about 33 tankoins to go from mk1 to mk7. Not to mention you get about 24 tankoins for completing weekly missions and 100 for completing the 2 week challenges.

On 5/31/2024 at 11:05 PM, Sliced said:

Make alterations buyable again
I think I speak for a lot of people (If they were here) when I say that tying alterations to containers was a terrible idea. I get you want players to spend money, but you wont have players spending money when they're chased away. But don't worry, you can nab these alterations at a chance of 0.0023% and 0.0047% from common and epic containers respectively, but then it's RNG?

As much as that'd be nice to have, the status augment and hybrid augment issue should be addressed before this ever happens. Otherwise you can expect to see pulsars, single statuses, hybrids, and other broken augments everywhere.

On 5/31/2024 at 11:05 PM, Sliced said:

Remove auto destruct
The feeling of adrenaline from managing to nab a flag from the enemy, but in your stupor, you flipped your tank onto your side? Not to worry, you can flip it back over! Not anymore. No more clutching, no more fun. Auto destruct really was a silly change to a non-existent problem.

You can disable it in the settings menu.

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On 6/1/2024 at 11:22 AM, NikmanGT said:

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Hey, unfortunately we do not accept Ideas regarding Reversion of updates as per the Rule 2.e of the I&S.

And mainly, a game aims to move forward at all costs, developing over time and adapting new methods. Reversion to year olds update will not only require a huge amount of investment for the project, but is also unnecessary and not very feasible.

But it's feasible to butcher a game through a huge amount of effort? Tanki devs lost a 1v0 to themselves. Kinda embarrassing. Moving forward i guess in terms of killing the game lmao

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On 6/1/2024 at 2:05 AM, Sliced said:

- Bring back battle list
Removing freedom of choice in the battles we go into takes away a lot of what Tanki was meant for. Having a long list of matches on a wide variety of maps, gave a strong sense of freedom that was taken away and replaced with quick battles.

I'm not sure if that's better than the current matchmaking or not...

On 6/1/2024 at 2:05 AM, Sliced said:

- Remove tankcoins
A lot of content is tied to tankcoins, such as being able to even progress through the game! You cant get the next tier of turret or hull without spending REAL money. (A lot of it too!)

Tankoins are (a bit easier) to earn than before...

On 6/1/2024 at 2:05 AM, Sliced said:

- Fix matchmaking
Master Sergeants and Brigadiers in the same battle? That's insane! Let's take a moment to remember why that has to be. When you make anti-consumer updates for 6 years you go from 70k players to a mere few hundred. Let that sink in.

That I can agree, but I doubt flawed matchmaking is the biggest factor of tankers quitting the game. I myself still play the game, but not as much (not because of questionable updates).

On 6/1/2024 at 2:05 AM, Sliced said:

- Make alterations buyable again
I think I speak for a lot of people (If they were here) when I say that tying alterations to containers was a terrible idea. I get you want players to spend money, but you wont have players spending money when they're chased away. But don't worry, you can nab these alterations at a chance of 0.0023% and 0.0047% from common and epic containers respectively, but then it's RNG?

ALL alternations including Legendary and Exotic? If so, how much they should cost?

On 6/1/2024 at 2:05 AM, Sliced said:

-Bring back M0/M1/M2/M3 models
A HUGE part of Tanki was grinding to a high enough rank to get that sweet new tier upgrade, along with the cool new model associated with it! A testament to your hard work and effort and diligence to playing the game for so long! Imagine the feelings of the players who finally managed to fully M3 their favorite tank, just for everyone to have it all of a sudden?

If... Alternativa can release the skins for each of those modifications, maybe.

Here's my long but short opinion:

Retrograding Tanki to its OG version will take time + money as Nik mentioned (not even viable enough to attract + retain new players, nor tackling the ongoing issues the game is facing right now).
Even if OG Tanki becomes a thing again, can it extend Tanki's lifespan for the 5-10 more years? Or will it shorten its remaining lifespan to just 1-2 years?

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Definitely a great idea. It's hard to imagine that 6 years ago was 2018 not 2015, weird! 

On 6/1/2024 at 9:05 AM, Sliced said:

-Bring back M0/M1/M2/M3 models

Although this is not a pay-2-win update but it has killed the essence of this game. M0,1,2,3 with a different skin for each was a diamond. 

On 6/2/2024 at 4:53 AM, FrozenRailgun said:

That I can agree, but I doubt flawed matchmaking is the biggest factor of tankers quitting the game. I myself still play the game, but not as much (not because of questionable updates).

Legend 5? Definitely wont have a problem slaughtering WOs (1,2,3,4,5) all the game, you're not the one to speak. Blatant Shaft camper

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On 6/2/2024 at 12:54 AM, PirateSpider said:

everywhere.

Although 8 months I'm away from forum discussion, you didn't change a bit. You still want the game-breaking augments to be exclusive for buyers, because they're cool, minority and don't cause nuisance!

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I think the current version is better than six years ago, six years ago I couldn't even afford Supplies, I was killed by players with double damage every day, it was not fun at all.

I think the most important problem now is the lack of new maps and the high prices of goods (for regions outside Russia), which is the biggest unfairness.

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On 6/2/2024 at 4:42 AM, alkyng said:

Although 8 months I'm away from forum discussion, you didn't change a bit.

Who are you again? ?

On 6/2/2024 at 4:42 AM, alkyng said:

because they're cool, minority and don't cause nuisance!

Lol, when did I ever say that?

On 6/2/2024 at 4:42 AM, alkyng said:

You still want the game-breaking augments to be exclusive for buyers

I'd much rather have them completely removed, but since it wont happen, the next best option is to keep them behind a luck wall until they have been balanced.

 

Let me ask you a question:

Would you rather have it where you encounter a few of these broken augment users every baatle, or have it where battles are filled with nothing but these broken augments before they get deserving nerfs?

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Hello All,

Bringing back 6 years old tanki, i guess won't be possible because it's a saying "we keep moving forward for betterment of future"? I do understand that it's been nice memories but believe me game is still better. ?You always upgrade in your life, is it possible to downgrade it? Nah 

What I believe physiologically when we start playing some online game, and for some reasons we quit it or do not get enuf time to play again and few years later we get a chance to play that same game again, we see lot of changes and feels confused and kinda don't get familiar with da graphics nd stuff, so we start feeling dizzy nd probably don't like it.

But the moment you get use to it nd get to know the game more there you get addicted, and that's the time you start playing it everyday.

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On 6/2/2024 at 6:37 PM, V1K said:

Bringing back 6 years old tanki, i guess won't be possible because it's a saying "we keep moving forward for betterment of future"

 

I guess there were so many people suggesting implementing their favorite aspects of the game (from years gone by) that they had to make a rule for it...

 

On 6/1/2024 at 2:22 PM, NikmanGT said:

 as per the Rule 2.e of the I&S.

 

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On 6/2/2024 at 7:39 AM, alkyng said:

Legend 5? Definitely wont have a problem slaughtering WOs (1,2,3,4,5) all the game, you're not the one to speak. Blatant Shaft camper

Blatant Shaft camper? Then why is my K/D 0.96? If I'm a "Blatant Shaft camper", my K/D should be higher than that.  In fact, I'm not performing well in 2024 Tanki (my tank gets destroyed more often than I can score kills). 

I have not seen WO's in Legend battles in this account (at least for me). 

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On 6/1/2024 at 6:53 PM, FrozenRailgun said:

I'm not sure if that's better than the current matchmaking or not...

Tankoins are (a bit easier) to earn than before...

That I can agree, but I doubt flawed matchmaking is the biggest factor of tankers quitting the game. I myself still play the game, but not as much (not because of questionable updates).

ALL alternations including Legendary and Exotic? If so, how much they should cost?

If... Alternativa can release the skins for each of those modifications, maybe.

Here's my long but short opinion:

Retrograding Tanki to its OG version will take time + money as Nik mentioned (not even viable enough to attract + retain new players, nor tackling the ongoing issues the game is facing right now).
Even if OG Tanki becomes a thing again, can it extend Tanki's lifespan for the 5-10 more years? Or will it shorten its remaining lifespan to just 1-2 years?

Tanki is at its end. Devs have messed it up, and I don't think they have the competence to fix anything anytime soon, and even if they did, it's too late

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On 6/2/2024 at 9:42 PM, PirateSpider said:

Who are you again? ?

I know you through all your accounts, Diesel and (another one I forget I think Crostbone or something like), why you don't know me. If you put a little effort you would find just the last 5th post in my account is: click here

On 6/2/2024 at 9:42 PM, PirateSpider said:

Let me ask you a question:

Would you rather have it where you encounter a few of these broken augment users every baatle, or have it where battles are filled with nothing but these broken augments before they get deserving nerfs?

This is exactly my problem with you. I don't know why you think this way! Definitely my answer is clear and any sane person who have the least since of proper thinking would know that having the augments accessed by everyone is WAY better than having them just for buyers (or a very few selected 'lucky' (as you prefer to say) players by tanki.

Why would I prefer to have these broken augments privilege just for a few players than for everyone. And as I have responded to you in the highlighted post in the last year, the "few" you mean are in real not a few. They're at least 5-8 in every MM battle. The few are: buyers, youtuber, helpers, selected (lucky) players, they're never few.

Lastly I'm, firety31, alkyng, asem.harbi.

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On 6/4/2024 at 2:19 AM, alkyng said:

why you don't know me. If you put a little effort you would find just the last 5th post in my account

Relax, it was just a joke, lol.

On 6/4/2024 at 2:19 AM, alkyng said:

This is exactly my problem with you. I don't know why you think this way! Definitely my answer is clear and any sane person who have the least since of proper thinking would know that having the augments accessed by everyone is WAY better than having them just for buyers (or a very few selected 'lucky' (as you prefer to say) players by tanki.

Why would I prefer to have these broken augments privilege just for a few players than for everyone. And as I have responded to you in the highlighted post in the last year, the "few" you mean are in real not a few. They're at least 5-8 in every MM battle. The few are: buyers, youtuber, helpers, selected (lucky) players, they're never few.

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On 6/4/2024 at 5:19 PM, alkyng said:

know you through all your accounts, Diesel and (another one I forget I think Crostbone or something like), why you don't know me. If you put a little effort you would find just the last 5th post in my account is: click here

Broo why do you enjoy changing your nickname so much.. I’ve had a lot of trouble trying to track you around the forum. I used to really enjoy your posts but now i dont even know which forumer you are lol

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On 6/4/2024 at 8:16 PM, Incorp said:

Broo why do you enjoy changing your nickname so much.. I’ve had a lot of trouble trying to track you around the forum. I used to really enjoy your posts but now i dont even know which forumer you are lol

That's a great honor to me, Incorp! I also enjoy reading your posts. Anyway, I didn't have even 500 posts with my new nicknames. So all of my 3500+ posts were with my old nickname. Yes, it's hard for any future reader to know but that's the case for any nickname change. I wished (and I have suggested many times) that there's "about me" page in every profile, so I can put my topics, hobbies and definitely my nicknames there. The reason why I changed my nickname in the first place was because it's too personal, other than that even if my nickname was random numbers 34t114 I wont change it. Thanks!

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On 6/3/2024 at 6:35 PM, Sliced said:

Tanki is at its end. Devs have messed it up, and I don't think they have the competence to fix anything anytime soon, and even if they did, it's too late

Tanki is not dead yet. I myself don't have much faith but it's not completely extinguished. As long as the game is online, there is still hope, even if extremely slim.

Tanki Online truly dies when Alternativa shuts it down for good. 

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On 6/4/2024 at 7:45 PM, FrozenRailgun said:

Tanki is not dead yet. I myself don't have much faith but it's not completely extinguished. As long as the game is online, there is still hope, even if extremely slim.

Tanki Online truly dies when Alternativa shuts it down for good. 

No no, it's dead. It's been reduced to embers, what players are left. You're missing the bigger picture of the sheer amount of people who once played, and in the last 5 or 6 years has been a very steep decline. You see like 5 people on the forum? There used to be an essay of names. The game's dead because it's an empty shell of what it once was and the devs have 0 intentions to fix it.

 

It's nice you still have hope, but it's important not to be naive.

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On 6/5/2024 at 12:18 AM, Sliced said:

You see like 5 people on the forum? There used to be an essay of names. The game's dead because it's an empty shell of what it once was and the devs have 0 intentions to fix it.

I am aware that the playerbase has dropped sharply in recent years.

I am not against criticisms to unsatisfactory updates, but statements like "Alternativa did this purely for money/greed." is an exaggeration of the current situation. 

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On 6/2/2024 at 9:42 PM, PirateSpider said:

Would you rather have it where you encounter a few of these broken augment users every baatle, or have it where battles are filled with nothing but these broken augments before they get deserving nerfs?

Let me answer your question on behalf of every single player in this game. 

We would rather encounter a few of these broken augments instead of non stop meat grinder where everyone has broken augments. 
If someone disagrees with this statement you're just a fool who has no idea how the game works. Doesn't matter if ur P2P or F2P.

On 6/4/2024 at 1:35 AM, Sliced said:

Tanki is at its end. Devs have messed it up, and I don't think they have the competence to fix anything anytime soon, and even if they did, it's too late

If I got a cent for every time I saw the "tanki is dead" then i'd make Elon Husk look like a homeless man. It's not going anywhere until THEY decide to pull the plug. This game can have 10 players online and would not be "dead" until they pull the plug. 
 

If they decide to "fix" the game it'll just become boring wasteland to everyone who started in 2018 or later. Which is like 70% of the game since these players are casuals who enter the game do their things and leave like nothing happened until tomorrow without interacting with anyone. I started in 2012/13 and if they rolled back like that i'd likely just quit because the game is TOO BORING. If you didn't get used to new tanki well it's not tanki's fault. If they keep "ruining" the game then there must be a good reason (sustainable income).

On 6/7/2024 at 2:40 AM, FrozenRailgun said:

I am aware that the playerbase has dropped sharply in recent years.

It may have dropped but def not sharply. Last time it actually took a sharp down was MM and some other update that happened (don't remember) after that the numbers are stable for years. Obviously they're slowly dropping just like lietrally every game you know. Its natural. nothing is eternal.

 

On 6/12/2024 at 1:04 PM, CD12f said:

i wish i could roll back 6 years in my life too

welcome to the old man club grandpa i wish i could do that too

 

On 6/4/2024 at 8:16 PM, Incorp said:

Broo why do you enjoy changing your nickname so much.. I’ve had a lot of trouble trying to track you around the forum.

meanwhile i change names constantly but my Forum name stays the same lol. 

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