event Invite a friend

[Risk 1,249]

Great opportunity to see new / old faces!

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

On 1/31/2025 at 7:28 PM, POWER-OF-ONE said:

Without reading anything else in this post I'm gonna guess he was being facetious.

I mean, you said it yourself I 'entice'.

No ill intent and I do apologize if my 'punches' feel too 'loaded'.

Some players take it all too seriously, while this is just a game. I even believe that this is the only reason people go to forums at all — to be way too serious about things.

As some other players noticed, this event is a 'free event' with occasional benefits for the developers. The last year we've been thinking about the feedback that there are 'only' paid events. We tried one free event which players didn't like so we were looking for something different.

If this is what you'll end up liking with your 10 accounts, and we'll have a chance to get even one new player — kind of a win-win for everybody.

[Cleric 1,385]

On 1/31/2025 at 7:58 PM, POWER-OF-ONE said:

Are you sure about that.

From a players perspective (that would mine) we lose time, in-game resources and in some cases, the 10% club (buyers) CASH.  

...

Anyway I have to go, I have 10 accounts to work out who is friending and who is benefiting. Decisions, decisions. 

Yeah... that indeed will take a lot of time in your case . But hey, you got a few loot boxes and rubies.

 

On 1/31/2025 at 7:58 PM, POWER-OF-ONE said:

Without reading anything else in this post I'm gonna guess he was being facetious.

Basically taking the p. 

The irony is that, he wasn't. You could see he was in a serious accusation tone in that particular reply throughout.

In fact, I think that accusation was initially pretty well executed I would say. He has the high ground of being the employee and is supposed to have access to more info than outsiders like me. And he used this advantage well. Until he made that statement, and all of a sudden everything he said about "I know more than you do you amateur." became a really bad joke.

Edited January 31 by NikmanGT
Kindly refrain from making such statements

[Bydo 20,118]

On 1/30/2025 at 9:15 AM, Reviced said:

It is actually a great way how to either bring or invite players to the game. You can just ask your friends to go play cause you want the rewards from missions and after he try it. Psychologically there is a possible way he might stay in game and maybe he will enjoy it cause that person never tried to join the game before. Tho there might be other reasons why he might stay in the game but in general I would not really consider this as a bad way to get new players in the game.

I will give you an example. Reboot Rally in Fortnite. If you have a friend that wasn't active for quite some time you could have rally him back into the game and complete some missions and get some rewards as an motivation to do it. I have tried it and I brought some players back into Fortnite to just simply play with me. Most of them stayed for like a month after which is cool 

Years ago this would have been great , but now we have only 52% players still on line. When I first saw this I laughed at this event .

I thought this was an April fools joke .

This event is only going to  create issues in the game - such as flooding and irritating players to be pulled into battles , when they are all ready in battles with others or don't want to even participate . now if they had a button to stop us from sending or receiving invites . then I'm  all in for it.

Edited January 31 by Bydo

[Senski 8]

I don't understand anything. It seems like it's just a waste of time. I'm going to skip this "invite a friend" mission.

[AzaborBR 128]

ridiculous rewards

[POWER-OF-ONE 163]

On 1/31/2025 at 8:34 PM, Opex-Rah said:

I mean, you said it yourself I 'entice'.

No ill intent and I do apologize if my 'punches' feel too 'loaded'.

Some players take it all too seriously, while this is just a game. I even believe that this is the only reason people go to forums at all — to be way too serious about things.

As some other players noticed, this event is a 'free event' with occasional benefits for the developers. The last year we've been thinking about the feedback that there are 'only' paid events. We tried one free event which players didn't like so we were looking for something different.

If this is what you'll end up liking with your 10 accounts, and we'll have a chance to get even one new player — kind of a win-win for everybody.

Ah your misinterpreting at least some of my text, I'll explain.

I did not see your "punches" as "ill intent" on the contrary (I found them amusing) and as much as I want "YOU" to take my "CONCERNS" about the game seriously, please re-read my post for context, I personally do not take "THE GAME" seriously, except in battle when I have my ultra serious head on, which I guess is the game really, so yeah, I take it seriously.

The forum is a meeting place for players to vent their displeasure about the game, or in some cases to hang out, read posts, ask advice,  [@TheCongoSpider area of expertise] and get general feedback about the game, pros/cons.

As for my "10 accounts" I doubt I will be using them in any event, not just this one, as most of them are low ranked and do not have nearly enough crystals to upgrade anything in my garage for the next rank. This is were "YOU" can make a difference, not just for little old serious me, but for every low ranked player.

As for the actual 10 accounts, let's just say I was exaggerating slightly, more like 5 low ranked accounts that I stopped playing, due to the concerns about ranking far to quickly, (I am not cannon fodder for anyone) hence, I stopped playing them.

If you truly value players feedback/concerns about the game, then at least have a look at my proposal about low ranks. I for one would be willing to lighten my wallet (a smidge) if you implemented my ideas for the forgotten about low rankers, who desperately need something to make the game worth playing again, at least in my case.

On 1/31/2025 at 11:24 PM, AzaborBR said:

ridiculous rewards

I agree-they could be better.

 

On 1/31/2025 at 9:02 PM, Cleric said:

The irony is that, he wasn't.

Maybe he was, maybe he was not, who knows with Hazel.

Bottom line-I have never seen him engage with one player on the forum so much, or indeed "with the forum" as a whole than he has with this topic.

On 1/31/2025 at 9:12 PM, Bydo said:

Years ago this would have been great

Tend to agree (ish)

 

On 1/31/2025 at 9:02 PM, Cleric said:

I know more than you do you amateur." became a really bad joke.

Best not to take it to heart/seriously.

There will always be someone smart who thinks he knows best. Now in Hazels case that maybe true for "most" things concerning the game, especially when cash is involved, but actually looking at the game and trying to figure out what is best for "most" of the player base is very tricky. This is were players (mostly adults with a functioning brain) can make a difference, but only if Hazel is willing to take on board the views of the players who actually come up with "reasonable" suggestions about how the game can move forward and be "rewarding", financially for the devs and enjoyable for the players. 

At this moment in time being a low ranked player is underwhelming to say the least. 

Edited January 31 by NikmanGT
Kindly refrain from such statements

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

On 2/1/2025 at 12:36 AM, POWER-OF-ONE said:

I did not see your "punches" as "ill intent" on the contrary (I found them amusing) and as much as I want "YOU" to take my "CONCERNS" about the game seriously, please re-read my post for context, I personally do not take "THE GAME" seriously, except in battle when I have my ultra serious head on, which I guess is the game really, so yeah, I take it seriously.

Ah, mon seniour! I wasn't talking about you, I was hinting at the player you replied to! And I am delighted to learn you took my 'punches' for the jokes they always were.

Extra hats off to you for taking only the in-game battles seriously.

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

On 2/1/2025 at 12:36 AM, POWER-OF-ONE said:

As for my "10 accounts" I doubt I will be using them in any event, not just this one, as most of them are low ranked and do not have nearly enough crystals to upgrade anything in my garage for the next rank. This is were "YOU" can make a difference, not just for little old serious me, but for every low ranked player.

As for the actual 10 accounts, let's just say I was exaggerating slightly, more like 5 low ranked accounts that I stopped playing, due to the concerns about ranking far to quickly, (I am not cannon fodder for anyone) hence, I stopped playing them.

On a serious note - yes. I see this as a problem myself. It is a complicated story about why this (x4 exp) was introduced in the first place and why we just can't get rid of it.

Working on the solution atm and I hope I can present it soon enough.

[qinghuan 31]

On 1/31/2025 at 8:12 PM, Cleric said:

Some examples.

Capex

1. Man-hours used for this feature. e.g. design, development, testing, planning, etc.

Opex

1. Expect of increase in service loading (at least for the duration of the event), do you need to scale up/horizontally?
   • If yes, what's the extra cost for the infra?
   • If not, is it possible that the higher service loading causes any service interruption? And what's the expected cost/loss of income if that happens?
2. Cost of the reward itself. How much do those loot boxes and rubies cost in real money? (what happens if some guys get what they want and decide they don't need to spend any more? And how likely that may happen?) 
3. On-going software maintenance and support. Again, man-hours for bug fixing (in fact, there is already one since the last update), customer support, etc.

 

I sure hope your business colleagues and PM have calculated all these before proceeding with this project. Though I would imagine you know a thing or two of these and are just playing dumb, but anyway...

Honestly, this won't cost them much extra to run. New players or vets making alts? Data storage impact is basically a rounding error. Let's keep it real – this game's population ain't exactly booming. Total signups might hit 1M max, and active players (logged in last 2 months) are probably 10-20k tops. Even "hyped" events like Tanki Fund barely pulled just a couple thousand folks (though let's be honest, those rewards were bottom-tier garbage – low participation's kinda expected).

Server strain? Pfft. Even if OG players farm alts for freebies, they're still only grinding one account at a time. New players? Bro, when did we last see a real wave of rookies? The login queue hasn't been longer than my weekend grocery list lmao.

As for the "losses" from these rewards? Let's be real - they're a drop in the bucket. The freebies don't even cover the cheapest event entry fee (700 RUBY lol). That "invite 7 players + complete all tasks" grind? All that effort for one Legendary Key... which 90% gives outdated skins like PR-LC anyway

Epic Keys? Common Keys? How many people actually get anything decent without dropping serious cash? We all know these just vomit out useless paints or generic augments. 

Let's cut through the fluff – this event's just another meh update. Devs are running a low-effort experiment here, barely lifting a finger while maybe scraping up a few new players to keep the lights on. If by some miracle it works? Sure, they might boost rewards later. If it magically becomes a hit? Cool, everyone wins... in theory. But let's be real – with these bargain-bin rewards, is anyone actually hyped? I've seen more excitement from lootbox pity timers The way I see it, this "update" might as well be a server maintenance notice for all the difference it makes

TL;DR –

Storage costs? Basically a coffee run | Server load? Devs napping at their desks | Event impact? Fireworks show for a cardboard fort

But hey, at least they're throwing confetti instead of folding the whole circus tent. Gotta give 'em a participation trophy for trying, right? 

[TWINS_MAX 1]

@Opex-Rah So can i use my own code in my alt accs if i want?

[v1p3r13 9]

Why would I invite anyone to come back when the reasons they left have not changed, and you have added more reasons for them not to waste their time.  I can see it now, what, I can't change equipment, why do I have a gigantic garage if I can't change equipment any more, that is what I spent all my money on, so I can try things out just for fun, I should stay with my main setup to try and win a game.  GREAT IDEA, MARKETING LEVEL 1000. 

Edited January 31 by v1p3r13

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

On 2/1/2025 at 2:04 AM, TWINS_MAX said:

@Opex-Rah So can i use my own code in my alt accs if i want?

I said it once, and I'll say it again:

Yes, be my guest.

[TWINS_MAX 1]

@Opex-Rah Okay thanks for your reply 

[POWER-OF-ONE 163]

On 1/31/2025 at 8:23 PM, Opex-Rah said:

Ah, mon seniour! I wasn't talking about you, I was hinting at the player you replied to! And I am delighted to learn you took my 'punches' for the jokes they always were.

Extra hats off to you for taking only the in-game battles seriously.

I wasn't sure if you were are not, although I should have known better and realised that you would interpret it correctly and post accordingly, which you did. 

Ironically me having a legit convo with you is very alien. I usually want your head on a chopping block, along with most of the mods.

On 1/31/2025 at 8:27 PM, Opex-Rah said:

On a serious note - yes. I see this as a problem myself. It is a complicated story about why this (x4 exp) was introduced in the first place and why we just can't get rid of it.

Working on the solution atm and I hope I can present it soon enough.

I really hope it gets implemented asap.

Not being able to acquire protections is bad enough, but if this happens the way I presented it then that will be a huge step in the right direction, especially for the low rankers and I can't see it affecting the financial side at all, just the opposite. Like I said, if the game's worth playing on my low ranked accounts then cash might just flow to strengthen them knowing I will have more time to gain crystals for the next upgrades when I rank. 

On 1/31/2025 at 8:36 PM, qinghuan said:

All that effort for one Legendary Key... which 90% gives outdated skins like PR-LC anyway

I must admit you do have a point. 

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

On 2/1/2025 at 2:20 AM, POWER-OF-ONE said:

Ironically me having a legit convo with you is very alien. I usually want your head on a chopping block, along with most of the mods.

Look. I have been in this business for more than ten years. I do this longer than some people live. I know how it works.

Games work on emotions and hate is one of them. But you don't hate me for me, because you don't know me. You hate me for what I represent.

And I am a system that turns 'your' time into 'their' money. There is no way around it, it's just how it is. It's my job. There is this idea among certain developers about players' toxicity and how it's wrong and destroys everything. But after all these years, I see it as an inevitable part of the system. There is no other way for you to 'push back' on what the developers do but to express hate.

So there are no hard feelings on my side left. Well, maybe a little bit) Here is something for the mood:

 

[Jeers4U 665]

On 1/31/2025 at 4:45 PM, Opex-Rah said:

There is this idea among certain developers about players' toxicity and how it's wrong and destroys everything.

So, you're saying that those certain developers take negative feedback about the game personally and can't understand why the players are angry and frustrated at the increased p2w aspects of this game...?

[JustBlackWolf 874]

Hazel, i can guarantee you that if you buff support nanobots the number of players will drastically increase just by them knowing i'm on the battlefield.

Edited February 1 by JustBlackWolf
damn, i miss MAF already.

[Bydo 20,118]

On 1/31/2025 at 4:45 PM, Opex-Rah said:

Look. I have been in this business for more than ten years. I do this longer than some people live. I know how it works.

Games work on emotions and hate is one of them. But you don't hate me for me, because you don't know me. You hate me for what I represent.

And I am a system that turns 'your' time into 'their' money. There is no way around it, it's just how it is. It's my job. There is this idea among certain developers about players' toxicity and how it's wrong and destroys everything. But after all these years, I see it as an inevitable part of the system. There is no other way for you to 'push back' on what the developers do but to express hate.

So there are no hard feelings on my side left. Well, maybe a little bit) Here is something for the mood:

 

yes there is toxicity everywhere ,  we find this game loosing its original game . sure things have to change . but when we had over 155k in players that's  when we really saw things start to go sour within the game . such as - bringing in more MM and other games ideas which did not belong to this type of game.

I can see one thing that will be coming and I can say right now its not going to keep players , but more like chase them away like you did in Tanki X. what I'm talking about is removing the battle button that players get to choose there own battle such as TDM or CP and we will end up only having MM button. this will not be good for the game seeing we're only around 52% .

we want this game to continue but not with other systems ideas. can't you as developers come in with something different that is not or have been done before ?

( been playing this game for just over 12 years )

Edited February 1 by Bydo

[mjmj5558 2,346]

On 1/31/2025 at 4:36 AM, Cleric said:

First of all, I don't know how you come up with 10% but that's not how math works.

Actually 100%-90% is indeed 10%. So this is how math works.

On 1/31/2025 at 1:12 PM, Cleric said:

Some examples.

Capex

1. Man-hours used for this feature. e.g. design, development, testing, planning, etc.

Opex

1. Expect of increase in service loading (at least for the duration of the event), do you need to scale up/horizontally?
   • If yes, what's the extra cost for the infra?
   • If not, is it possible that the higher service loading causes any service interruption? And what's the expected cost/loss of income if that happens?
2. Cost of the reward itself. How much do those loot boxes and rubies cost in real money? (what happens if some guys get what they want and decide they don't need to spend any more? And how likely that may happen?) 
3. On-going software maintenance and support. Again, man-hours for bug fixing (in fact, there is already one since the last update), customer support, etc.

 

I sure hope your business colleagues and PM have calculated all these before proceeding with this project. Though I would imagine you know a thing or two of these and are just playing dumb, but anyway...

I don't think this discussion leads to anywhere; but i'll state my opinion.

This event is done smartly because there are no real extra costs. Of course, someone had to prepare it and calculate its effects, but that's no different from the case of a regular event (and actually, not even an extra page was needed for it, the already existing mission tab was used). 

Of course, we could consider the cost of the reward itself. However, if we had a 'normal' event, it would also give some 'free' (or, considering the cost of the event pass, I could perhaps say highly discounted)  rewards, so it's not much more than a normal case, but you get something else in exchange: data. Even if most of the new accounts are created by existing players, developers can collect data about low level gameplay and progress, so they use this to make it better before they'd choose more expensive methods of gaining new players (like ads, if they ever want to do that). Not mention that even if most new accounts won't be actually new players, there'll definitely be some real new players, for which the waiting time will be decreased due to the more amount of active players on low ranks, so this is a win-win situation.

 

Even if you're not interested in participating, the best you can do is to not care about it. It's not like that this event is going to further increase the gap between a p2w and a f2p players...

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 1/30/2025 at 12:12 PM, Opex-Rah said:

As history shows, nothing can prevent players from creating a new account and completing the missions for their main account.

Be my guest.

Is there a good reason why daily and weekly missions are no longer auto-activated upon entering an account after this Invite a Friend event appeared?

[Bydo 20,118]

just thinking ( yea its scarry ) .. so if we are only allowed to add 3 players to a battle and only allow say 30 per account , a player would have to deleted real friends on there accounts to add new ones who will only be on your accounts for a short time frame.. I might be missing something or is it only when you use this promo code and it wont effect our friends who we have in our on line friend accounts. ??

I can see this being a one sided battle with only 2 friends adding there 3 friends each - leaving little room to add other seeing there is a cap on the number of players per battles.

 

Here's the proof on just 1 page of chat this morning . 10 posting with there codes

Spoiler

 

Edited February 1 by Bydo

[Dopamine 2,161]

On 1/31/2025 at 4:36 AM, Cleric said:

First of all, I don't know how you come up with 10% but that's not how math works.

Secondly, it means those "new players" won't pay for the game, since they are fake. All they do is add extra entries into the DB.

 

So if that happens, it is just a waste of time and cost for nothing from the company's perspective.

It was an example. I think the preface of this feature’s only purpose being advertisement for the game made you miss the point a bit.

As Opex himself also indicated, financially, this wasn't a costly update. Secondly, the yield of genuine new players from this update isn't all that important—you could call it an added bonus for the company.

You seem to miss the fact that this is also a sort of event for current players. If they end up reactivating their old, unused accounts or creating new ones, it means more engagement with the game, as they will be completing all those missions across their accounts and thus spending more time within the game.

There might also be other tricks hidden up their sleeves that we don’t even notice.

As always, they will get valuable data from this - as I said before.
Later on, they may add more missions accordingly—for example, rewards for Tankoins bought on new accounts, Twitch promo codes claimed on new accounts, etc.

And this is just what I could think of in five minutes.

I always find it slightly funny how players insult the Game Team as incompetent, stupid, or unfit for the job. Yet, if that were true, it seems to follow it must be incredibly easy and foolproof to develop and run such a project for 15+ years straight, right?

[Venerable 2,967]

On 1/31/2025 at 8:34 PM, Opex-Rah said:

I even believe that this is the only reason people go to forums at all — to be way too serious about things

how dare you opex-rah

how absolutely dare you

i come to this forum every day not to be serious but to troll with the utmost dedication and effort. you think we're here taking things too seriously??? no sir we are here to post ironically, argue passionately over trivial matters, and create entire essay-long debates over pixelated tanks with full knowledge that none of this actually matters!!!

but does that mean we will stop? no absolutely not! in fact i would argue that the true art of unseriousness requires a level of commitment so deep that it may look serious to the untrained eye, but let me assure you every post every rant every heated exchange over balance changes is done with the purest intent of unseriousness! how dare you insinuate that we are just here to be serious when in reality we are here to be unserious in the most serious way possible!

take that back RIGHT NOW!

 

Spoiler

brb omw to invite an imaginary friend to tanki who will mysteriously play using my laptop but shhh dont tell anyone

 

[ok_hand 95]

any players not willing to complete this?