the splash damage is also reduced, which is why i think it is a nerf to me, and possibly a few others. Other than that it's a buff for most others b/c they r nubbies

The problem is that you can't do much about it. I want my stupidly long range for Smoky and Hammer back, but I have to get used to i, as it's not something that me or the community can deal with in a sophisticated manner. Also, so many forum newcomers sound like campers when they want it fixed l0l

Wow, after the Hammer/Vulcan nerf, NOBODY IS HAPPY. They still bash Hammer for the same, ungrateful reasons. (Disclaimer, if you don't like cynical text please leave) Counterargument #1) "It 2-shots my Hornet in a short period of time. Add DP on that thing and that's gonna be three dead tanks." You're using Hornet? Others are using Hornet? Is nobody using a close-range turret on an attack-based hull? If a Hammer comes, harass it with anything to no end then roast/dismantle/freeze the Hammer to death! Oh, he has a heavy hull? You're either using a combination improper for the situation, your team is terrible, or the Hammer is fulldrugging every single time. If it's the first thing, don't complain. If it's the second thing, I beg to differ against any arguments you have, and for the third thing, you can't steal supply boxes? The only viable way to fulldrug is to use item boxes. If a Hammer misses a Nitro, exploit the low turning speed. If a DA is missing, drug DP! If a DP is missing, get someone to tank all three shots, unless you have a horribly made all-Hornet team. That's not your problem? You want Hammer to three-shot Hornet instead? Might as well remove the weapon from the game then, it's an inferior Thunder then. Counterargument #2) "Its range is too far" Hammer is a horrid choice for any campy map, 'nuff said. Hammer also got a range nerf, BE GRATEFUL. Hammer was also intended to be able to be used at mid range, but it is not meant for mid-range combat. Hammer is most effective at close range, where the recoil and damage is used to the best effect. Don't forget that simply running around a column will do wonders to counter ranged weapons. To be honest, pre-nerf range is a bit long, but i think post nerf, it will be reasonably balanced. Counterargument #3) "The game is catering to the buyer nubs that love the turret because its op so they keep it op" I..I don't...I just...lololololololol silliest thing that can be said, period. By this logic, INSULT RICOCHET AND FIREBIRD. You at least NEED to MU Hammer M3 to make it viable at Generalissimo. Ricochet and Firebird reward bad skill, and don't even need MU's at M3 to be good. Need I say else? Also, it's as if everyone has completely forgotten about the Ricopocalypse (First 50% sale on Post-Rebalance Ricochet) and a large majority, including me, carped about it for being incredibly OP. Oh look, now all we do is poke fun at the nub Rico-Hornets that don't have enough dexterity to use more than five fingers at once. Ricochet, which was considered OP to begin with, gets a buff and look at how calm everyone is about that. That's just hypocritical stupidity. Fire getting a buff? Oh, PSHAWW, lolbird So, you still want Hammer to be removed from the game? If you do, please answer this: How do I know you don't just want Hammer to be removed because it is your weakness, and you want you weakness to be removed so you can stay OP? Oh, so you also want Vulcan to go down in the flames with Hammer? I'll make it happen when the game officially gets deleted from the world. By then it's already happened.

uhhhhhh kinda (this is only from a speculative, looking-at-paper standpoint) both the buffs contradict the nerfs lol

I will make sure to NEVER, EVER join a battle over the rank of Major General. Juss sayin'

Uhm, you people don't understand a change =/= nerf. Should be reading stuff like this instead of wasting my time watching actual television.

Comments, in chronological order: Wow, I got DCed for foul play by ramming onto a tank. Flyhacker didn't SD... DCed for running off a ramp. DCed for several stupid reasons. Balance is not game breaking against light hulls, luckily. This update isn't bad, BUT WHYYY did you have to change the weights? The only thing that kept Viking from being OP

What I want: Weight switch between Hornet and Wasp. Wasp gains a 0.5 speed boost and 5 health boost at M4 while Hornet gains a 15 health boost at M4. What will happen: Wasp or Hornet becomes F-Tier/Low-Tier/1 out of 10/abysmal/not worth using/terribad (etc)

Flyhackers stole the next 5 goldboxes to drop. Oh no!

Diconoobs (Dictator + noobs)

I was impersonating an XPer m8

I was making a comment on how people think Hammer is OP mostly only due to being able to 2-shot Hornets lol

AND HAMMER IS OP

I can't believe i forgot to upvote this guide, this guide is easily one of the top 2 or 3 articles of this press.

Regardless, great update! Now instead of having bad topics by low rankers, we can have...bad topics from mid-rankers....

The changes are minor at best, 5 extra DPS on every turret isn't going to ruin the game

Subject: Gameplay Topic: My Guide to Tanki Online's Physics Engine Why it's interesting: You're not good unless you know what you're playing with and have a general idea on how to use it, and that's the physics engine.

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Sorry, someone killed him a bit late but the name is noticeable. That roof is the one near the red base, and near the red alleyway spawn point. I personally witnessed him flyhacking (several times, for that matter) to that building, and all the railguns also tried to kill him after I exposed (and voted twice, there was an incident before this where he flyhacked for a gold box, but no proof) him, which explains the lack of a clear name.

Most of these buffs are incredibly minor. I still don't understand why they don't vote for updates though, the only possible reason is to reduce fraud

You're only supposed to last a few seconds with light hulls...? Speed has plenty of uses but i rarely see people use them because nobody is good at the game.

If smoky is nerfed at all i will be amazed.

People who choose light hulls KNOW THAT IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. I've only played video games for roughly 7 years (mostly RPGs), but light hulls trade speed for health, and it seems NOBODY REALIZES THAT. Also, DEFINE "OVERPOWERED". PLEASE. I INSIST. If every other turret "is as overpowered the overpowered turret" IT IS NO LONGER OVERPOWERED, as now the turret has no significant advantage over the other turrets. (don't del b/c caps plz they are in context)

hit by 4 shots no crit: GET OUT ASAP Totally unpredictable m8 But still...This afterburn is going to make Firebird stupidly OP early game what is this