ok.... ^ Just read....

Hold on to those thoughts if that makes you happy! In the end: you loose... :) You were always some kind of professional "troll" IMO: first time I met you were ruining an XP battle I was in. It 's rather sad that you seem to be going in overdrive on the forum lately: you might well regret your own actions one day. Than again, knowing you a bit: probably not... -_-

On the test server you don 't use your normal account. You always start with making a new one. Just make up a nice name like Dragonben Z and some make up password like 1234abc (no one will steal it) and have fun!

You better ruin XP 's as much as you still can because the ruining will soon be over! :P Try to beat that! :D Bye, bye, XP ruiners!

^ Tankers like you are really helpfull! Strong and well thought arguments: now the Devs will certainly change their minds! ...not... just hope you get a long ban noob!

Finally some sense on this Hornet topic... ;) From WO2 till Colonel you will have a clear advantage over the Wasp M1. And as Greyat rightfully says don 't ditch it too soon. You could even skip the Wasp M2 and go straight to MJ general with your Hornet M2. From Colonel till MJ General it is just two ranks...Wasp-lovers: bring it on... Well, its exactly what I 'm going to do with an alt.account. Will equip the Hornet M2 (MU 'd HP) with the Rail M2/Thunder M2 and possibly the new machinegun that they show mounted on a Hornet M3 in the V-Logs. Your excellent Smoky guide is proof enough that you Killerpenguin are not the guy to make bad decisions and purchasing the Hornet M2 is certainly not one of those IMO! Enjoy stability, a very decent speed and health and as you wrote drifting is no longer an issue if you get used to it. Nice bonus is that you are also training your XP-skills in every regular battle while using the Hornet. Great small hull!

Hmm..I agree with most of the updates, but taking away the Private battle option from the normal battle creation list? In what way does that look cool to you? Best regards to U 2,

My wrong! You are right...this noob now will retreat very silently... ;)

Without being servile (because for one I don 't agree at all with Private battles becoming a Pro pass exclusitivity, but that 's another topic, so I won 't mention it here at all... :D ) many of us Tankers often forget how unique it is how accessible you, TO devs and team are. And how you as a team do often react on suggestions and complaints of us Tankers. Not always that is, and in the end it 's simply TO that has to make the decisions. I have faith you are making them for our good and also "TO live long and prosper": which we all want. Just to let you know: we not all "hate" you TO! :)

Certainly if it has tracers (incendiary rounds) in Nightmode, why not: Dragon edit: forgot about the paint...ok a Dragon 's name than: Puff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_AC-47_Spooky)

Than make it big and slow! :D Thanks for replying!

I agree with you, but it may well be a (big) temporarily nuisance: Quote from Semyon: Posted 12 Dec 2014 - 10:13 GOOD NEWS for those who play in formats! We are already working on adding the support for formats in PRO battles. Soon, you will be able to determine which hulls, turrets and paints can be used in the specific battle. We'll keep you updated. If the above is true, XP is in the clear and even much more than that! Finally a true ending to XP ruining! :) :D you have already made the edit... :D

Still we will fight under exactly the same conditions: which is IMO more important. Indeed you are right that a M1 will be different from a M3 ;) but it 's also true you will get an understanding how the turret works being M1 or M3. The real test of the turret is when you are going to use it in real battles. Which is always a lot different from a test server battle anyway.

That 's why I added, better be soon. Don 't know why they make things this complicated by removing the names. Still, a real XP/BP format is what we wanted, so I personally will have patience if that means I will soon get rid of the XP ruiners once and for all!

End of XP? Come on guys: ^ read plz! Nope, it 's not the end of XP. In the contrary: it is the real start of it! :) Just indeed let it be soon TO...

Fair enough, but if so why not give us the M3 straight away when choosing the Hammer? And delete the M1 till M2 buying options: this way everybody will know for sure they have exactly the same turret. Btw. really liked the simplified garage. No protective paints so the focus is completely on the weapon itself and how different hulls act with it. Great! Hazel-Rah what do you think of adding some tiny sparks to the pellets when they hit something? That way we can learn how to improve our aiming with the new turret. As is it is now I haven 't got a clue if I made a good shot or not. There is not a real learning curve in that aspect. And shooting with the Hammer in nightmode...hmmm IMO it will be more or less an Hy6 weapon if it stays like it is with its invisible impact, and I will just stick with my beloved Thunder: which isn 't a real punishment btw... ;)

Really good news indeed! If we really get seperate server(s) for format battles than that would be THE solution for XP/BP and other format battles. This way you as a battle creator can preset which equipment and paints can actually enter that battle. That would mean we finally get rid of those XP ruiners who nowadays still can enter with Smoky 's, Titans, Prodigi and other non-XP equipment. It will also mean more experimenting with other battlemodes I guess. Great! This will mean I will buy the Pro battle pass on my XP account for sure. Still I have three other accounts as well and I won 't buy the Pro battle pass on any of them as it is now. That won 't even change with the Pro pass having all the options now: even with the added exclusitivity of creating Private Battles... Which is not the way to go in my view. Reason is simple, there are still too few Tankers that own a Pro Battle pass and I don 't see that change very soon. TO may try to force us into getting a Pro Battle pass, and some will get it now because they really need it. The vast majority still won 't get it, because as it is now there are simply too few Tankers to create enough Pro battles. With such a low amount of Pro Battles to choose from it just won 't work. Posted this before: I believe in a more positive way to promote the Pro Battle pass. Create a huge event! Give away or heavily discount the monthly Pro Battle pass for one whole week. In this week many will get it and will start to create and play Pro battles and along the way enjoy the benefits and all the extended options it has. Drugless or completely 234 drugged battles, dropped supplies on/off etc. After this month I am convinced TO has created a large pool of potential and certainly a lot more real Pro players. That 's the moment when the Pro Battle pass can become a real success. And that 's also the moment that Private battle can and maybe should become a Pro Battle pass exclusitivity IMO. This is not that moment in many others and my own view: so plz. make Private battles an option in normal TO battles again!

Because now with some distance you haven 't got a clue if you hit your target right or if you could have hit it much better. Same with rocking/tipping. It works but you can only guess the amount of tipping because I 've got no single clue where I 'm hitting my opponent. Some tiny sparks glowing very shortly when impacting would be a great help. Otherwise this gun maybe destined to become a noob weapon: just shooting (somewhere, but where?) in the dark.

The pellets could use some sparks when hitting something...

99% agreed! (except for the Shaft part)

The poll is pretty useless IMO, but I do like this topic and I agree that TO often reacts to it. That 's just great! Good news about XP, at least if it becomes more than just a plan that is! IMO the clean battle list and the narrowing of the rank limits are both positive. The same settings in every regular battle isn 't bad either: the most used settings anyway and at least you know what to expect. Still negative is the exlusion of the Private battles from regular battle creation. Just let Tankers of all ranks and "wallets" parkour, train, have rank up parties etc. without the need of getting a Pro Battle pass. The possibility to have XP/BP, full 234 drugs battles or completely drugless battles, or whatever other setting you like on a Pro Battle pass should be incentive enough. Instead of trying to force us (IMO) in getting a Pro Battle pass by making regular battles pretty plain, why not promote the Pro Battle pass in a more positive way? :) Suggestion: if the seperate server for format battles gets opened make a huge event of it. Every Tankers get one monthly Pro Battle pass for free or at least for peanuts. This way many more Tankers will get a "taste" of the Pro Battles, like it, and huge chance a lot of them will continue buying one after the event. The biggest problem the Pro Battle pass now has is that simply too few Tankers own one. Though XP/BP already proved that it cán work and that Tankers are willing to get a pass if you can find enough Tankers to battle with. That 's the main problem with the non XP/BP Pro battles. And if many more Tankers play Pro Battle in the future? Yes, than, only than IMO it 's time to make Private battles a Pro Battle pass exlusivity.

Couldn 't agree more. Positive: I do like the clean battle list itself and also the narrowing of the rank limits: maybe that can/will lead to more balanced battles. (see edit nr2) Negative: don 't have a Pro Battle pass, but as I understand it you can 't even recognize/identify an XP/BP battle right now. That is just lame. XP was already ruined for myself, because I am fed up with all the rule breakers and ruined battles. The latter will not change as long as it is an unofficial gamemode, and by the looks of it: it will be for a long time, or even worse, does it ever become an official gamemode? And why private battles had to be removed is also a mistery to me. What was wrong with them in the first place? Ok, the Pro Battle pass needs to have more options I get that: but this is simply needless overacting IMO. Only good thing: now I really don 't have a reason to get a Pro Battle pass anymore, so thanks TO!? :unsure: Mixed feelings about this update as it is now and a clear downvote regarding how a possible gem like XP/BP is being treated right now. edit: just had a look at the poll: what 's the use of such kind of polls anyway? No questions at all about the real important issues: so nope I will use the forum instead. A better way to maybe get some results. edit nr2: Quote Semyon: "By the way, about XP and things like it, in the current situation there's a plan to organize a separate server for format battles. I'll keep you updated." Plz. Semyon next time include this in the main post. You can expect reactions like mine if a post like this is added later somewhere in the topic. Very good news btw. I just hope it becomes more than just a plan! :) This leaves the Private battles. Parkour, rank ups etc. just keep them possible without a Pro Battle pass plz.

Finally the garage worked...better be early or late if you want to test the Hammer... :mellow: Only did some tests with Hornet and Viking. In the test server Viking IMO is the better one of those two popular hulls. I have a feeling that 'll be the the same in real battles. Some early estimations, all IMO ofcourse: - Hammer on the heavy hulls Titan and Mammoth: no, too slow to take cover after depleting the clip. In DM 's most likely a good choice. - Hammer on the light hulls: no, the Hammer is partly a melee weapon so you better have some decent HP/protection. Could work well on bigger maps though. - Hammer on the medium hulls: yes, best allround choice IMO. Decent HP and enough speed to take some cover while reloading Which one of the three medium hulls? The one you prefer and/or have I guess. Personally at this moment I 'm planning to mount it on a Viking in a nearby future. Nice variety to rotate it with my Thunder. If the characteristics don 't change than it ranks nicely at the same rank (LT General) as the Viking does to M3.

This won 't work. Only two test-servers and another one for the few (lucky) ones that have an invite code? It 's obvious almost every Tanker wants to test the new turret(s). No wonder the test-servers get overloaded. Without more test-servers soon, we hopefully get a new turret temporarily in our garage so we can at least try it in real battles.

let him: he 's just dreaming...