I have a feeling this is going to be one of the games that dies. If I were you I would not invest in this game. Doomsday is coming for TO.......tick tock.........tick tock.........and with more kits the clock counts down faster. ^_^ Tanki can reverse the clock buy getting rid of or revising the kits, but they won't! They never will if there's a quick dollar or two (or whatever other currency) to be made. 5000 bucks is a lot to spend on entertainment. If I wanted a nice LED TV I would probably pay 500-700$, depending on the size. If I wanted a nice desktop computer, I would expect to pay about 1000$ for something like a Dell. For internet and TV service, I would probably pay 100$ a month for 1200$ a year, approximately for Verizon. Other entertainment might cost me another 1000-2000$ in that same year for stuff like console video games and a system (like PlayStation 4), sporting events, etc. So if you add that together, 5000$ is greater than that total, just for one game. Just for TO and only for TO. So which is better? 5000$ for one internet game, or about 3700-4900$ for a hell of a lot more than this game? That might be your decision, but I would never dream of paying 5000 for this game (that would be a nightmare).

I guess everyone likes rico all of the sudden...

I'll tell you what I told dragonssk1: I understand that this game needs money to keep working. I've heard that one before many times. What I said in the first place was that this system of kits that the game uses to make its money is going to fail the developers eventually because annoyed players will leave the game. When that happens, the game will get boring and the kit buyers will leave. Then there will be almost no players that are in this, so the game will have a lot less income and popularity. So, according to my theory, the buyers will actually help end this game. This is the point I have been trying to make in the first place. There are better ways the game can make its money, I know the developers are capable of coming up with something... Its a he, I'm a male. Thank you for your understanding; that is the point I am trying to make.

My point is that this is becoming an "buy or die" kind of game. At my rank I can't go a single battle without some kind of kit buyer. Its absolutely ridiculous. And 35$ is OK to spend I guess, but this is why I'm so mad at anyone who buys: I was in a battle with some noob who had clearly purchased multiple kits, as he had M2 mammoth and M2 thunder with urban (I think) paint. He said he spent 5000$ on this game! 5000 dollars!!!! THAT is wasting money. You have to admit that's pretty pathetic... I know that's his money and he can spend it how he wants and whatever, but this game isn't worth spending 5000 dollars on, is it!? Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is that the way the developers are making money is going to blow up in their faces eventually. I'm saying these kits are going to cause a chain reaction where a lot of players are going to leave the game, and the developers are going to lose their precious money. Besides, the developers aren't even trying to improve the game anymore. They are trying to make money by improving the more expensive hulls/turrets and making them OP. Impatient players will buy crystals immediately to upgrade the good stuff. And the developers will continue changing the kits and hulls' statistics and wrecking the previously good items and eventually wrecking those while making other items good again, to bring in more money. Its really pretty obvious. And why do you think the developers have so many sales on buying crystals but have so few sales on the actual hulls and turrets? To make money off of the buyers! Why are kits always 50% off? To encourage the buyers to spend money to buy the kits! The blacklist goes on and on, and so does the list of players that have spent 5000+ dollars on this game. And what do they do for us non buyers? Nothing really, a 25% sale on hulls and turrets and 50% on MUs. Woo-hoo. Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure there was a CRYSTAL BUYING SALE IN THERE TOO. Holy crap....I hope you see my purpose now. This game is becoming just a land of buyers who take advantage of a flaw by the developers. Yes, you could always buy, but a buyer back before these infernal kits could only have the same items as a non buyer at the same rank, so it could still be somewhat fair. Now the following can happen: Let's say I'm a third lieutenant, OK? I would have to face M2 vikings and thunders that constantly drugged with a really good paint. My M1's would not stand a chance, even if I drugged back. This is all because of the kits. Hell, I could be the best M1 shaft user in the game and still not have a chance. Being so angry at the developers, I would probably quit the game, since with no "investments" I would have nothing to lose. You see, a lot of lieutenants will go through a situation with a noob kit buyer who is ruining their battle. I'm sure they consider quitting this. Even as a major I went through this kind of situation (again) last night in stadium. I was having a good time with friends making a good battle fund and then a M2 viking kit buyer showed up. He drugged constantly and totally ruined the battle. This happens pretty commonly, as I'm seeing an equal number of M2 vikings with prodigy paint as M2 hornets. Now then, is that enough reasons and points for you, dragonssk1? Oh, and FYI: 35$ isn't going to get you enough crystals to buy a kit! Most buyers these days buy kits, so they have to spend more than that!

Dear developers of Tanki Online.... I absolutely hate these kits. They are very unfair to the players who do not waste their money on this game. Those players who do not buy will have to face tanks like M2 mammoth and M2 ricochet that drug constantly at the rank of third lieutenant. Is that fair!? Players at the rank of first lieutenant could be facing players with M2s that are unlocked at lieutenant colonel. The higher ranked player should have the better tank, right? Apparently not. No, what makes the difference now is money and only money. Not rank, skill, rating, or any other factor. Anyone with half a working brain cell would know that kits are the worst thing to happen to happen to the poor players who have the decency to avoid spending money on this game. They won't stand a chance! So every time I see an M2 mammoth or viking on drugs under the rank of third lieutenant, I can't help but feel an enormous wave of rage and aggression toward you guys. I usually just quit the battle I'm in if a drugging kit buyer joins. And you guys said you were trying to make this game "balanced". HA! What a joke...this game is far from it. More crap "updates" like this will only deepen the abyss between fairness and disbalance. Now think about this: If players like me who do not buy or drug reach a point of anger toward this horrible update and those who take advantage of it, those sed players will LEAVE THE GAME and your [to the the developers] game will lose popularity. Hmm....not exactly best for your company, is it? I'm pretty sure the players that buy are outnumbered by those who do not. When those players leave [the non buyers], the game will be mostly buyers and druggers. Sure, you developers will have money, but no game. If everyone drugged and bought kits, this game would become pretty boring and frustrating after a while. That is when the noob buyers will leave and this company will go down the toilet with potentially no players left to give their money or their time! Ker-flush! Did you guys really not see this coming? Hell, this game isn't my life. I can quit. I've got other things I can do. Maybe I can start playing World of tanks and see if that is any good...For those truly obsessed with Tanki, I feel sorry for. So please, do what is best for the Tanki Online Company and its community: Obliterate these kits! Please consider this message. ----Major Eradication-Nation. (<----I know, it's a terrible name...)

82-0 (undefeated) in silence. It would have been higher, but the battle stopped working (you know when everyone starts doing donuts and doesn't stop?). I'm not on long every day, so I can't get into big, long battles.

104,022 up 1229----is that good for my rank? I use shaft and mammoth only so I never get many crystal boxes or gold boxes (only 6 or 7 golds in my entire time playing this) but I do get alot of kills...

It is a lot of fun and you can one shoot and cause critical damage on alot of tanks. It is worth every one of the 103,500 crystals it costs. It is best in CTF mode, so if you like those its an even better buy. I hope you get it. ....and wow--- over 50% of my posts have been in this topic. I'll shut up now.

Railgun is overrated and never stands a chance against a good shaft, especially at long range. This is why those who use railgun hate shafts so much because shaft is better and they just hate getting beat up all of the time by shaft. ...and I'm spending way to much time in this topic. Sorry.

Oh, I didn't know you spoke another language. Sorry... Honestly I have always believed that shaft beats rail gun no matter what and I still do. My rail gun has not been touched since I was a Sargent and I'm not planning on using it ever again. Actually, I despise rail gun. Ever since I ditched rail gun I have used nothing but shaft; It's been to every battle I have been in since I got rid of using rail gun. That was about 10-11 months ago out of the year I have been playing this. The Mammoth hull has always been my counterpart even before I used shaft, and I'm too used to it to change to any other hull. The Mammoth/Shaft combination has always worked for me and continues to work even if I face generals. it might not work for you, but it still works for me.

OK....your article is just a big run-on sentence. It's hard for me to try to get your point. First you say that shaft is dead and whatever in your earlier posts, and now you are saying that you are just so amazing with it. If you are so amazing, then why do you say it sucks? Its a paradox. And who needs gold boxes if there is a high battle fund and I'm in first place? Why would I waste my drugs, time, and life on 1000 (in this case 3000) mere crystals? I play for mostly XP and really don't give a crap about crystal boxes if there is a good battle fund to be divided. Another thing: If you want a high powered long range shaft, then why do you play close range battles? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of your desire? Please learn how to write, because you're doing nothing but confusing me. Also your opening lines make no sense and don't rhyme, if you're trying to be a little poet. And sucking the team? WTF is that supposed to mean? I help my team by killing flags and defenders that my team can't. Derp. That is what shaft is for. It isn't supposed to go to close range maps just as freeze isn't very good in huge maps. Get what I'm saying or are you going to keep trying to write a proper point?

I never really had any problems with the turrets you listed, especially rail gun, which happens to be a piece of overrated crap. Just ask all of the rail guns that have suffered me without actually being able to kill me. I do not think shaft is nerfed completely, and instead think that shaft is more versatile now. Arcade mode once again has a purpose, and the new rotation speed lets shaft fight in closer ranges, although I agree shaft will still struggle in places like island. It's not really OP in long range situations because its damage has been lowered like 20 HP points and not under-powered in mid to close range situations either. Shaft can still destroy alot of opponents, and I can still make the top of the winning team just by sniping the enemy flag carriers. I make plenty of crystals this way, too. Bottom line: shaft is not dead, but actually quite opposite for those who use nothing but shaft (*ahem*, me)...

Yes I got M2 shaft :lol: it's so fun to use! Anyway, unless there is a wall or something to hide behind there really is no escape from being hit from those rail guns and shafts, regardless of what hull you use. Plus, you can't move while in scope mode, so you're bound to get hit which is why you need something that can take a decent damage. And now shaft has a decent rotation speed so light hulls aren't much of a problem anymore unless they have freeze.

Mammoth and shaft always beats viking/hornet with shaft. I know from experience because those combos that have fought me have all suffered and they have never been able to kill me or any other players as well as my combo. Yes they might be faster but they are too weak and can't sustain alot of damage to fight my mammoth and shaft or any other high powered combination. Actually, they can't really fight anything and survive in direct contact at all! Why? Because you can't move in scope mode, so if someone finds you you're toast. Trust me, hornet and viking don't work as well as mammoth or titan.You need a heavy tank. ...anyway I was going to write a guide for M1 shaft but now it's so easy to use I'm not going to bother, unless anyone wants me to.

I should have seen this coming; I just bought my m2 tank at full price. I'm not totally broke though and maybe I'll get a new paint. Oh---exactly a year ago I joined this game...time flies....

Alot of players drive light-medium hulls. Even if it can't kill a hull, it can land some pretty high damage, which could help your team defeat that enemy.

Here's my problem: Often I won't have enough time to reload an arcade shot with M1 shaft. Sometimes an enemy with a flag will be on the run, about to find cover. Before, I could kill this enemy swiftly. But now my pathetic 133 damage might not be able to make the kill before the enemy finds cover. Even if I do [have enough time], if I'm shooting from a long distance it's hard to aim a shot at an opponent, especially under pressure. It would be like trying to snipe with rail gun :lol:. I liked it better when I could just wipe out opponents *snaps fingers* just like that. Now my enemies with my team's flag will escape with the flag, 'cause most of the time I'm the one who shoots them. I was successful then; now I'm in doubt. -_-

I guess it is fair if they are lowering the HP of most of the hulls. It sucks for me too, as I'm getting m2 shaft in a couple days.

What the devs are trying to do is not balance the game, but make the popular hulls/turrets worse than the equipment that is not. Here's an example: hornet was by far the most popular hull in the game. So what do the devs do? They make it awful and try to make its competitor wasp better. Yet, WASP IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN HORNET (in m2 and m3), so more players will have to buy crystals to afford it! Its a scheme, hopefully a fairly obvious one to players. If this game needs money, why can't they just post advertisements here and have players pay to remove them, as one user said. It would be fairer that wrecking the game.

Only a few days until I rank up to major and get m2 shaft and mammoth. Something tells me that these last days with my m1 shaft are going to be HELL. With its lowered damage, my shaft can no longer one shoot m1 hunter with 2 MUs; I'll have to invest in more if I want to one shoot it again. Twins were always an annoying opponent, and now I hear they are OP. Great. Also, apparently titan is better than mammoth now, but I'm keeping mammoth for the following reasons: 1. Mammoth looks better; titan is ugly... 2. I've been using mammoth since the beginning of my account and I have little experience with titan. 3. It fits my self expression better (yes, a poor reason, but still.....) 4. Mammoth is still stronger. -_- 5. Mammoth accelerates faster.

I only looked at the 52nd page for the most recent posts; you don't have anything on that page :mellow:.

I hope the decreased damage isn't a problem, because shaft is the only gun I use and its really the only gun I've ever used.... Pretty soon I'm getting m2, and I hope that they don't ruin it.

ah... Thank you

ok....I'm there, but now my password isn't working. I know that nobody stole my account, because my password still works for the regular servers; I tried it immediately after I failed to get into the test server.

Uh....problem.... I can access the test server but everything's in Russian! <_<