I'll give it that; if you're flipped on your side, you can't flip yourself up, and the large size means you can't fit through some small corridors (balcony on Esplanade, although anything bigger than Hornet can't fit in). I've had a lot of practice with it, so I don't run into many problems. Has anybody tried out the Medium Tank M1 kit? I know that Dictator/Rail is great, but I'm not sure about the paints. If I stockpile my crystals (and win a contest or two), I might be able to get it at some point.

As a Shaft user, I essentially NEVER use DP while sniping un-drugged targets. If I see you fully drugged up (and using supplies, not bonus boxes), I'll pop a DP and blow your sorry tank up. I hate players who compulsively drug when there is no need to, so I fight fire with fire.

Hmm, must have been me then. I was literally right in front of a M1 Firebird, getting scorched for actually quite a while, and I walked off with very little afterburn. Still, I feel like Isida makes me heat up slower.

Compared to Hunter: *Slower by about 1 mph. *More health, by about 20-ish. *Heavier, more power (better at pushing). *Bigger hitbox. *Turret mounted a bit taller, that's a good thing. *Slightly better turning speed. Compared to Viking: *Slower by about 0.6 mph, I think. *More health, not very much more at M0. *Much heavier, less power. *Much bigger hitbox. *Turret mounted a lot taller. *Much better turning speed.

Hmm, I'll have to try that out. It looks pretty weird.

Well, people are now finally appreciating Dictator, instead of saying "Viking's better for all intents and purposes".

That doesn't seem possible. The maximum MU damage Shaft M0 can do is aroun 130.

I haven't really gotten an opportunity to use Freeze legitly (test server M3 doesn't count; I didn't really know how to use it), so I don't think I can make an educated decision. Freeze was nerfed pretty bad by the rebalance. Firebird too, but it's still usable at my rank.

Mammoth-Freeze (actually, Freeze-anything. Freeze looks pretty terrible, like somebody decided to put a snot-blowing vacuum cleaner on a tank). Dictator-Isida (very large and bulky hull, very small turret). Titan-Isida (same as above, looks pretty awkward). Wasp-Shaft (This combo isn't a tank. It's a Shaft with tiny treads).

OK, some comments: First Aids are more useful, but like I said before, it's borderline overpowered, since you'll actually heal faster than players can usually damage you. You're practically invincible, especially if you're using Double Armor and Isida. I think that First Aid should heal for that period, but only heal up to a certain amount of damage (like maybe 40% of your tank's max health). I don't like the self destruct penalty to team score. It's going to be a new way for mults to take down a team. In addition, the self destruct penalty is pretty bad for Thunder users (although I don't use it myself much), since they blow themselves up fairly often. Also, it's becoming a lot more profitable for Railgun users to simply flip over enemy tanks, since it'll effectively damage the other team more than simply getting a kill would. Is there a way to make it so that: a) if your tank is flipped, B) if you're using Thunder and hitting an enemy at the same time, the self destruct penalty won't apply? That seems to be a good compromise; there really isn't an excuse for blowing yourself up with Thunder/Rico by shooting at a wall with no enemies around. Firebird is just a little underpowered, but still usable. I don't have Freeze, so no comment on that. I guess you're indirectly giving Smoky an advantage, which is nice (I felt like it needed a slight buff). Isida users are now almost immune to freezing and afterburn effects due to self heal; while this is good for them, it might be an issue for Firebird/Freeze users. Maybe tone down the amount of freeze/burn reduction that self heal gives you? It should be a fair amount, but maybe not to the point where you can shrug off freeze and afterburn after about 1 second of rest.

Meh, I'm not that good of an artist, but I do think I can create good designs. I'll be posting some concept art on this thread. Tank Concept 1 This is a tank/turret combo I drew a while ago, when I was bored in my Multimedia class. I call the turret "Auger" and the hull "Spectre". Auger fires particle blasts in 3-round bursts. It is very accurate, with a moderate rate of fire. Although it is not particularly powerful at close range, Auger's low damage dropoff and high knockback make it excellent at medium range. Just keep in mind that the damage and knockback lowers at long ranges. There have been plenty of stealth aircraft, but before the advent of Spectre, there were no stealth tanks. Spectre has good speed and health, similar to Viking, but it has a large hitbox and low power. It produces very little noise when travelling, to the point where even human soldiers could not hear Spectre tanks sneaking up on their position.

Oh, you'd be surprised. I have really good luck with my good 'ol Smoky, to the point where I can take down a Viking with some effort. Well, after this buff, Dictator really can "rule" the battlefield. teehee bad puns

In terms of stats? No. In terms of effectiveness against enemy close range weapons? Yes. Now that Freeze and Firebird have been nerfed significantly, users of those two turrets are much more vulnerable to a skilled Smoky. Since they both do neglible damage at the edge of their range, it's much easier to "dance", and if you do get a little bit too close, it's not a big deal.

Dictator's now a much more formidable hull. Before, at M0, I think Viking was superior in pretty much every way, but now it can hold its own. Still easy prey for Smoky. I killed a fully drugged-up Dictator pretty quickly yesterday with my M1 Smoky.

Hmm, Isida got a bit of a buff in the self heal; I was torched by a Firebird for about 5-6 seconds and still managed to walk off without burning to death. Isida removing burn/freeze effects apparently affects the self heal as well. Isida-Hunter now eats Freeze/Firebird for breakfast. Maybe it's different in the upper ranks.

Nowadays, I only use Isida when there are a lot of teammates that need healing; unless you're drugged up, you're not that great at offense anymore. Well, at least you get a ton of XP from healing that Mammoth that's sitting on your flag.

Isida didn't get weaker, the other hulls got stronger.

Did Twins get buffed? I forgot what the old stats were (haven't used it in a while).

15 seconds left, darting through the buildings. The Firebird pursues me, the demonic glow of its flames scorching my chassis. The Shaft tracks me, its gaze a ray of death, its talons closing over me. The Twins, their blinding orbs each bringing me closer to becoming a melted wreck. What am I, but a lone Isida? Nobody left to help me. Nothing left to help me. I close my eyes and keep driving forward. I expect to hear a sound, the disappointed, insignificant ping of defeat. I do hear a sound. The resounding, brilliant trumpets of victory. ________________________________________ And I'm Thekillerpenguin.

SHUN THE NONBELIEVER!

Yep. >Cost of M1 Smoky: 5500 (got it at 50%) >Cost of M0 Hornet: 75 (got it at 50%) >Reaction of players who can't aim straight due to knockback and circle strafing: Priceless

Hmm, FireHunter seems to be a great combo. I was playing on a Sandbox CTF, and I absolutely murdered those pesky hornet-freezes. What I didn't finish, the afterburn did. It also looks great.

I can't really get any of these in time for the sale (I'm about 2/3s the way through WO1, I already have M1 Mammoth/Titan), but I voted for Dictator, because, well, it's the least used hull right now, and I think more people should get the opportunity to try it out.

Dictator's been buffed significantly in the new update. It's a great tank now, unlike before, where it was only a bit better than Viking at M3. :tank:

Eh, I learn quickly. Give me a few days with a game, and I'll usually have a lot of stuff figured out.