You need to collect evidence. The best proof is a video which clearly shows the violation. Quality of the video must allow moderators to easily understand nicknames and ranks of all the players. Before the creation of the post read *** GAME VIOLATORS SECTION RULES ***

That means a generalissimo have no more kits? You mods said that kits are available till they are convenient, i.e. till when for example you have already 2 items out of 3 and the kit is not convenient to buy anymore. But probably is one of the long list of lies Tanki says .... for example on kits you said that they will be available ONLY when the items are unlocked by rank. Kits are too overpowered and unbalance the game, as they are ... available 2 to 4 ranks earlier ... that is bad!

For the first time I agree with you ... LOL

Apart your caressing and taking care of each other soo gently, I never said Bossman is not skilled. I never even saw him in battle, how could I say that? Please read better! And try to understand what you read, because I said a completely different thing! I also actually said he has not the profile of a drugger (which is a kind of a positive thing IMO). Why do you insist to show that I am HELL? I don't bite! Am I soo evil because I have a different point of you than you? And I don't think this is the right place to discuss about paints, don't you agree? Ah, by the way, generally speaking I fully agree with this (even if I am not attacking anyone): You are your own person. If you let the words and actions of others guide you, you're leading yourself to ruin. Defend yourself if you must, and move on.

A very self-explanatory message! You didn't mention skills, strategy, optimum weapon or paint ... just buy drugs and win! Powerful, strong and unbeatable! Three ranks aheand means a M more than you. Pressing 2-3-4 gives 3xM more than what you have. Every M upgrade gives abt. 25-30% increase ... everytime you press a number it gives a 100% increase! ... Of course you can win! Even though it sounds strange that you have that position. You haven't the profile of a drugger!

Dear Bob Your level of "drugging" is not to be even called drugging! The point that some of the players here don't get is that noone wants drugs to be removed and levels of drugging like yours is fully accepted. That is a more than moderate drugging. When you see someone using 50-100 drugs per hour it create a problem, that is the "mass drugs use" you talk about, that is the drugs usage that change a 10-2 battle to a 10-20 in minutes. That is not "variety" of game but rage ... that is unfair! A 50-100 drugs per hour usage does not create any "variety" ... it is a constant exaggeration! So everything come to the point of "where is every person's limit between moderate drugging and excessive drugging"? Unfortunately that is now up to every single player and what you define "mass supply use that decide the outcome of a battle" some other players here define it "normal playing". This is wrong and that is why this has to be ruled and limited. Especially younger minds have no limits!

Your thoughts are appropriate! Our point can only be to let anyone see our ideas and it is supposed to be also of some help to devs for future updates. It is actually the representation of the "sentiment" of part of the Tanki population. As we said many times and as you think too, devs will probably never update the current tanki including some of our suggestions, even if SCD kind of had that purpose. And I also believe that devs are quite greedy and shortsighted (as I said too). They actually do their best to milk players as much as they can, regardless what they said before (like "kits will never be sold before rank availability") and regardless the game balance, the gameplay satisfaction and the customers. Almost every update is a proof of it. This situation clearly has no tomorrow. They don't think in a medium term way and this is a big fail for any business. I think that they will never implement our ideas, not in the flash Tanki, nore in the Unity one, but this is just a personal idea. They should do something about the power selling matter also because, as you said, no players = no druggers and no buyers ... hence no Tanki. We, and I think I can talk for the other supporters of our post, do not hate or are not angry with anyone. This is still a game! Ok, we like it and we would like it to be at its best ... but it is still an internet game! I never get angry with anyone in real life, you can imagine that none of these things can really upset me!

You liar ... now tell me and FIND where I said it, when and where I treated someone as a fool. Don't just talk nonsenses just to write something. I always respected everyone, as long as everyone respects me (and even when they don't). Is it soo difficult to understand? You first accused me of "ill-conceived logics and mathematics" and I answered politely, even if it was difficult to explain such a simple thing. So, what the hell are you talking about? You first offended me without explaining why. Is my maths stupid or wrong? Prove it, explain it ... don't just talk "bla bla bla" without saying anything. Base what you say with facts, in other words say something! State facts. Right now you are trolling me just offending and criticizing me without facts. If you have something to say, just say it. It is easy to say "troll" or "ill-logic" without describing what you mean, if you mean something. Otherwise it is just a useless trolling comment against me (and not against the facts I point out) ... which is meaningless. I am not your enemy, I don't even know you and you don't know me. The only reason we are both here is to discuss about something. So do it, discuss about something! I write my opinions and you write yours ... it is called "DISCUSSION". Do you have any problem with it? Do you want to state your point and everyone has to shut up? This is the wrong place for that! Where did I insult you? Where did I troll you? And if I did, report me! Please! Otherwise shut up and do not say things just to open your mouth (or your fingers on the keyboard).

Only your unpoliteness prevail on your lack of objectivity! 1 - Noone force you to read my words 2 - I am not interested about your nerves 3 - I do not tell you what to do with your money or free time ... please do the same with me and tell something if you have something to tell 4 - Feel free and welcome to ignore me You first addressed your words to me and I answered to you, explaining some maths concepts that are probably not very clear to you. You mentioned and accused me of "ill-conceived logics", so do not rant if I answer. Don't you want to read? Be free, don't do it ... I know it might appear kind of difficult for you!

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Ohoo, nice to see a "supporter" here! Maybe you don't work yet ... but what if at the end of the month you got half of the wage you were supposed to get? Just to make you more familiar with the "logics and maths" of half and double concepts! Twice is like two ones (just to make it simple) ... drugging means you fight with 2 instead of 1, you see? And who drugs actually need to be 2 to beat you (that are 1) ... is that a skill? Maybe you could focus that destroying a mammoth on DA, that after a while presses 1, is like trying to destroy 4 mammoths. Do you realise that? Having a team drugging is like fighting in 16vs8 instead of 8vs8 ... do you find this balanced? Don't you complain when a team is fighting you in 8vs4? Do you like to play in 4vs8? Don't you see that drugging is the same thing? You know what? What I just said is "mathematics" ... is it too much maths for you? Everything in your life has a measurement, a weight, a temperature, a speed. Crash with your car at 20MPH or at 60MPH and you will see how numbers make it different! (of course I do not wish you or anyone to crash with car) I never said that drugs have to be removed, but only limited in power and usage. Numbers (or mathematics as you call it) are facts while things I read here is just a "bla bla bla" from druggers that love to fulfill their egos, no matter they are skilled or not, and feel God in battles ... many times just saying "mama pass me the credit card number please" and crying if she says "no". Or, like in the author case, they support their owner to keep this wrong mechanism run as much as possible. And yes, I will also point out my "ill-conceived logics and mathematics" soon!

Yes, I know and fully agree with you. My answer just pointed out exactly this. At our eyes he is supposed to be "staff" somehow. We don't have to know who is who ... who writes here should be authorised by management or anyway represents the Tanki words. The lack of management shouldn't be of our interest in this respect. The message that comes out is that "staff" is saying to his clients "take it as it is or go to hell"! As you said, this is terribly wrong ... and even if you are right, I am still upset from this behaviour. It is still not the same as if you (or any other) told that. Unfortunately this is, together with the total game unbalance, a major issue of Tanki. If they will not solve these 2 problems, not only flash tanki is headed to failure, but even the new one will not last long.

Is really this your idea of "customer care"? Why the hell do you treat your customers that way? Why this offensive "take this or f*** off" style of you? You can use any word you like, but the message is that! This will be one of the reasons of Tanki failure! I can understand you might be stressed by some "not really totally polite" comments, yet this your work here. If you cannot stand it, just leave it. I am offended by sencences like that, and sure I am not the only one. Here you don't have only dumb children that just press "like" or "unlike" (oops ... unlike has been taken off) and don't even understand what they read. Why the hell can't you be polite with people? Who the hell do you think you are? Start to be polite and respect people, not talking about the fact that we are your customers!

Hey Rohr As you know, I can do nothing else than agree with you. Me and probably many others are on that way too. Thank you for your great contributions to discussion, for your fairness and equilibrium, for your dedication to help to solve Tanki problems with thoughts and ideas. Probably Tanki will fail sooner or later (for the problem we discuss many and many times), but you are a good one, and you will always be! I will be always pleased to see you here when and if you will like! Whatever you will decide to do, I hope you will have great time! Have fun in life Bru

E.Leclerc and Mr.Sarcastic You know my position against this post, you know my position against arrogance and some insults (treating us like children) of sonofchrysalis3 and maybe some others (likes on language lectures included) ... but I don't think you should insult or hate in turn. Do explain your reasons as you did till last 4-5 posts, let's try to make them understand why they are wrong, but always politely and kindly ... don't you think so? I am the first who think they are wrong with their "non democratic" way to manage the forum (many posts of mine have been just closed because "unconvenient"), they have a very poor "customer care", they really need to consider everyones playing pleasure with appropriate game balance, they should think about selling power on a "supposed-to-be" a free to play game .... but all this can be discussed politely! Please don't take it bad, but I had to say it ... for fairness sake!

Well, I think that, apart where the sentences come from, they are correct! You (read mods) often treat us like kids ... unfortunately I noticed it in too many posts! Enhance gameplay quality means better gameplay (es. lags, hacks and sabotages prevention, etc.) and better game balance, and many of us described the situation many and many times! I think that noone consider "enhance gameplay" just the introduction of new turrets or hulls. Tanki should (without bending on their knees) thank its customers, yes. And they should enhance gameplay not as a "favour" but as appropriate game maintenance and enhancement. It is business, not favours exchange! The point you missed is that we are Tanki customers, and I am not only talking about the payers, but all the players. The players, the FREE players makes up the "critical mass" that makes the game interesting. Someone once said a clever thing: what is the difference between a home game and a multiplayer online game? In the first you fight (or do anything else) with or against an algorithm (studied by developers), while in Tanki you play with or against other players, often free players. So, also free players do the work of the algorithm (also making the game more unpredictable and interesting). We enjoy the game on one side and work for you on the other side. We deserve respect (which includes not telling us "have a lollipop" or other insults IMO) just as the payers. There would be NO whales without free players!

Again caring more about phrasing structure or mistakes than concepts .... and again sonofchrysalis3 likes these kind of useless "comments"

Good comment, Maestro I am trying to explain to people that Tanki makes millllion $$$, while I see many comments like "poor guys, they must make something up for their dinner soup on the table everyday". I made some calculations based on Alternativa Platform published data and came out with a pretty rich figure!!! (actually much lower than your case too) And you got the point! They should use part of that incredible amount of money to make the game more playable and more balanced and they would come to earn even more! But, despite they are supposed to be "managing" a company, they cannot see farer than tomorrow!

Not everyone here is native english ... why don't you concentrate your comments on concepts rather than words ... that are fully understandable even if incorrect? This is for you KillerGnat and sonofchrysalis3 that liked your comment

Nooo ... instead you put appropriated controlled voices that say that saving less is convenient! And why? Because devs need a soup on their table at dinner! TNT, I never said that Tanki development has not been a great work ... I also said that any company with a good idea and good management capacity (that include "customer care") deserves to earn millions! I just say that first of all Alternativa Platform earn millions already and also that devs should take appropriate care of their customers, which are not only the paying whales but all the players. Because the players (read also FREE players) make the critical mass of players to make the game interesting and worth to invest and spend on.

No, sonofchrysalis3 You can twist your words as you wish, but this is what you said: "Therefore, the game is imbalanced by the players who refuse to use supplies." It means that NOT using drugs is the cause of unbalance of the game. Remember that free supply in the drugger usage last much less than average playing time? So it is obvious the need to buy! And anyway that sentence is false. Drugs cause the game unbalance, as I (and not only me) explained many times, also in the linked post you maybe saw. Than you said: "Tanki will never, ever limit or get rid of them. They would be ruining the game if they did." False. I repeat: tanki actually already limited drugs use (SCD), just for the purpose of NOT ruin the game .... doesn't this make you kind of think, with respect of what you said in your post? Than you said: "And even if they did (remove supplies), the players who are now screaming for the end of supplies would still be in the same predicament, because they aren't losing due to supplies. They are losing due to the fact that they just can't win." I highlight the last part: they (I feel included) aren't losing due to supplies. They are losing due to the fact that they just can't win. They loose because they are loosers themselves, no matter of supplies. Isn't that clearly an insult? Whatever was the point of your article (I don't know and you just only said what wasn't the point of it), you should accept that someone may not agree with it ... and, if you like (as it should be your role), discuss about it ... but not just negate your statements. Sorry but you can turn your words anyway you like ... you still say that I am a looser ... I don't mean in life (that should straight lead to a ban of you) but here in the game, which is still offensive, as you probably never seen me (or many other readers here) in battle. Your judgement would anyway be unappropriate even if you did. I accept, like and welcome polite talk even with different opinion, discussion, focus on respective points of views ... but still what you said sounds an insult to me! Noone is agitating here and also your reference to camomile is quite unappropriate, and you should just realise what you said. If your meaning was something else just explain it, but do not negate what you said! Bulgaria was just an example to say that having connection does not mean having money to spend on the game. It was just an example and the country was just mentioned because I read it somewhere in this discussion. Also "unfortunate financial situation" is quite a common status nowadays, even in Tanki birth country. And Tanki should look at the whole market (both as a free-to-play game and for the reason of usefulness of free players I described already), not only at the "whales". Finally, you didn't explain what was the point of your article (if you like to share your thoughts with me)

I assume that you didn't read the post that RustyNail suggested you to have a look at! What you are saying is that non-druggers create unbalance!?!? Are you really saying that? Are you really saying that if we don't pay for drugs we damage the gameplay? Are you serious? Also, first, noone said we want to get rid of drugs, second, tanki actually already limited drugs use, just for the purpose of NOT ruin the game .... doesn't this make you kind of think, with respect of what you said in your post? In your post you are also offensive. You say that we complain for drugs use but we are loosers anyway? Why the hell are you offending us??? YOU ARE TANKI STAFF .... You should NOT offend players .... I really don't like this and I feel insulted by you!

Just a note on that "edit" ... before writing sentences, have a thought about them! Just for example (as someone talked about Bulgaria wage) a soda is much more expensive than a super fast internet connection there (which is free)!

Well, you said earlier that criticsm is constructive and Tanki needs it ... so why when we do it you ignore it, laugh on it or fool us? (what I say is written on another post and you can read them all, these are not just "free" flying critics words) In this post I wrote with facts and you just ignored me. I have been polite and I told the source of my information ... and I still have been ignored! You compare Tanki with a grocery store ... this makes me think that you have not quite understood the monetization and economic mechanism of Tanki or any internet free-to-play game! As someone said: what is the difference between Tanki and any computer game? In games you fight with algorithms while in Tanki you deal with other human beings. That means that all free players actually work for Tanki. Also, a "critical mass" of players to make the game interesting for who spend money (the so called "whales") is necessary! Hence we are your helpers and your customers at the same time. We are entitled of talking, tell our ideas and show out disappointment (where it is the case) ... and you (read Tanki staff) have to respect that and also take from our views the guidelines of your development. In your post #110 you said: "a 50% off sale would've been harmful" ... what do you mean? and if you mean what I think, did you read my post (#78)? Still disagree with you