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No, Hazel .... don't say that to me. I have always read what you say and I always care about it. Many times we disagree, but you are not fair now. In this case I missed that "not" ... my fault and please excuse me for that. You know that when you are right I admit it and excuse myself. Noone is perfect ... my tired eyes jumped some words. Sorry But be fair ... that "I don't care for what you say" is not true! And my comments are not to "crush you" ... and you know that too! I have also defended you when I felt appropriate (also right in this post by the way). Respect goes over this or any discussion ... and I think I have always being respectful (even if with different views) with you. Sorry but I didn't like your last line!
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Before saying that did you check where are the Alternativa Platform headquarters? Do you know that, apart Pert, they have one establishment in Asia and another in Malta? do you know the wage of a software coder in Asia? do you know the taxes regimes in those 2 areas? Do you know wages in Russia? Do you know that Moscow is one of the more expensive cities in the world? But, do you know that Russia is not only Moscow and they are not there? Before saying that Tanki (read Alternativa Platform) is a bounch of poor guys struggling for their monthly wage, have a look at the situations above, make some earning and expense estimations based on players and buyers ... you will come with millions of net profit! What you see here (premium, early kits, excess use of drugs) is just greed!
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I am the first to critic and counter comment Hazel (as you can see from my many posts), but sorry, this is not fair! You know my position, Mr.Sarcastic, but not everyone is english native here! Please don't say these "free" things ... to anyone. Thank you
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Sorry Hazel, you are saying a bad bad bad thing here. You condamn offenders and you become one of them! Your point 2 in other words is: "Forum readers/writers, I don't care about you, your writing is useless and will be never listened to"! Believe me that any thinking mind will read this out of your comment! And then the blonde girl on the V-LOG (sorry don't remember the name) describes her tales on how carefully she listen to players ... wow I can say just wow! Also your point 1 doesn't give any answer ... maybe because "money" is bad to write here! Sorry Hazel, this is very wrong!
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Tanki, or Alternativa Platform, has quite huge income, not talking about how they avoid proper work and taxes payments! Please don't justfy any Tanki money drain from players as a "need" to earn to keep the game active. Make some calculations as I did, and you will see that! "Players who play for free will still be able to play for free" ... NO, they will be still able to LOOSE for free!
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Are you really saying that??? Don't you think the veteran paint is something close to unique? Do you really think that everyone can get a veteran paint? Do you really think that a 20% against all weapon is not an advantage but only "no bother what paint to choose"? Don't you think that you are simultanously protected from more than 3 weapons ... isn't it a great advantage? That is quite too much ... you are stretching normal players patience far too much!
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TNT is right ... this is not the place!
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So you limit the average player to mid-long range maps, correct? I (probably average player) cannot play a noise or a sandbox then! But this game is crowded of average players. So ... was your comment directed to yourself (defining yourself a pro) or it was meaningless as 98% of users are "average". I mean, I am trying to figure out why you said that! Who is your "you"?
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Dear Kirby Maybe you remember me, maybe you don't. Anyway we have had different (probably forced) position on some things. First of all UNI is much more important than anything else, so you are clever and responsible to dedicate your time on that and set your priorities on the right things. So, I am happy for you on that! Unfortunately (just about Tanki) I read some of the words of mine and the sentiment more and more players start having ... and that is not a nice thing for a potentially great game. Also, from what I read of you, I think you have the right attitude to life and especially you fully understand already the concept of compromise and mediative behaviour. This is not obvious and it will be of utmost importance in your future working life and it is not something you learn on a book, or in a week. Said that, have great fun at UNI (as I did :) ), study and be great! Bru
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Ohh nice!!! Finally someone that use the brain, read and understand what he reads!!!! :)
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Quote As long as every item in the game unlocks at certain rank, kits with "all items unlocked when they are available" logic end up been available too late and were pretty much useless. Thus, logic has been changed. Currently we are conducting experiments on how soon items in particular situations can be unlocked without hurting balance. In the end, item kits will provide early access to one of the items in a kit. This is, most likely, going to be compensated with lover discounts and addition of one worthy paint in every kit. As long as you define ranks system balance, it is quite obvious that selling stuff 3-4 ranks before their actual availability is a big unbalance of the game. If you studied a balance in the first place, a major change like this is unbalancing ... quite clear! Your message with kits is: "with money you can win" over lower Ms players! Pay and blow them up! If you add that who spend money buys drugs kits as well, you come with overpowered equipment further overpowered by drugs ... is this your idea of balance? Why you created the ranks system in the first place then? Why don't you give a recruite a nice M3 combo for say 400.000 crystals? Despite the exaggeration, this is what happens in battles! Also, you call that "experiments", I call that "greed". Early access to equipment is a further game unbalancing and should be eliminated! Let's also remember that at high ranks a 3 ranks earlier availability means about 350.000 XP difference, which is 1/4 of the whole tanki career. Think about it!
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Concettualmente quello che dici è giusto, ma la realtà è che spesso hai di fronte mults nel tuo team e peggio ancora un gruppetto di druggers dall'altra parte. Con i druggers è come pisciare controvento (consentitemi il francesismo), è tempo perso dove abilità, strategia o teamplay non contano più una mazza ... L'incremento di potenza delle droghe è talmente forte che non ci puoi far nulla. A quel punto o vai a 1-2-3-4 continuo o non puoi neanche reagire a un pottato modello albero di natale. Diventa una battaglia frustrante, inutile e sconveniente sia per chi sta con i druggers sia per chi sta contro! E tu diventi un inutile spettatore di un massacro che fanno altri! Non ha senso restare ... e non sarebbe giusto penalizzarti perchè non ti vuoi o puoi drogare!
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Hai ragione! Una possibile soluzione sarebbe di limitare l'extra power delle droghe, come suggerisco qui: http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=246957&page=71&do=findComment&comment=4714520 Ci sono anche tante altre considerazioni, idee, proposte, alternative, ecc. Date un'occhiata se vi va! Comunque il problema è pesante ... tra drugs e mults tanki è un gioco free-to-play e pay-to-win! Che amarezza ... sarebbe un gran gioco!
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Si chiama avidità! Come un'altra categoria che chiunque sopra la pubertà conosce, Tanki fa di tutto per soldi. Manda a buone donne il bilanciamento di gioco a favore della polpa, prosciuga più che può il giocatore fregandosene della giocabilità ... basti vedere i kit di droghe! Che amarezza ... un cosi bel gioco che si autodistrugge cosi ...
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Ciao Come dice giustamente Issho, 3 armi sono troppe e non ce la farai a portarle avanti (a M3 e M4) tutte fino all'ultimo rank. Ti conviene scegliere quello che ti piace di più, con cui ti trovi meglio e ti senti più forte. Ovviamente con isida ranki più veloce, ma se non ti piace Tanki diventa la supposta quotidiana invece della distrazione giornaliera che ti piace! Sono d'accordo e ho spesso protestato per i kit disponibili 2-4 ranks prima del dovuto. Sbilanciano totalmente il gioco che, ricordiamoci, è basato sui ranks proprio per far giocare assieme equipaggiamenti simili e gradi di esperienza simili. Mia opinione: non farti tentare di comprare mille armi (o al massimo provale a M0 o sul test server). Scegline 2 e portale avanti fino a M4. In aggiunta di posso consigliare di scegliere almeno una delle due che riesci a fare M3 presto (tipo isida, freeze, thunder, e non fire o rico per esempio). Potresti fare isida e rico o thunder e fire, ma scegli sempre secondo tuoi gusti, pensando anche alle mappe che preferisci (armi corte per mappe corte, ecc). Scegli anche armi diverse, ovvero non fire e freeze o hammer e rico. Cosi avrai piu' scelta di modo di combattere. B.
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Ciao Issho Thanks for answer As I said at first, you all do a lot of work. I bet it is not easy. I am also the first to say that Tanki is a great game and I also always give my point of view in the forum, maybe contributing to help Tanki too. Yet I do not post false accusation as what I said is something that happened to me and other users I saw the posts of. Proofs are in the forum, so please to not accuse me of false statements. Mods closed me a topic at page 20 ... after complain they re-opened it and now it is at page 108! You can imagine that the discussion was not over, mods just felt it an "unconvenient" subject! Also I have been waiting 40 days for a pm on something I asked. I think I am quite patient! Anyway my message was not directed to the ones like you that with great effort do help Tanki on a voluntary basis (if I got it right), but to Tanki managers, the ones who decide what to say on V-LOGs and what to write as official Tanki messages. Actually I think you are in a bad position, like between the hammer and the iron! The free-to-play method is not my decision and it is a business model that works quite well. Don't treat Alternativa Platform as road beggers ... we talk about $$$millions of revenues. Also the forum and "customer care" is not my idea but it is the Tanki offer. And you offer something if you can do it, no? Let's also remember that even though I am a free player, I contribute to make up the "critical mass" of players that make the game worth playing and that make the payers worth spending real money in the game ... a game crowded of battles. So please don't treat us free players like scroungers, because this is the tanki offer and Tanki have benefit from us. Payers are always a percentage of players critical mass! With no players there would be no payers! Also, the concept "it is free, thank for what you get and shut up" is not really a good "customer care"! I wrote that just after listening to the V-LOG and that is the impression I got ... a politician campaign (Prodi style). I think this "sentiment" is not something of mine only. In 8 months Tanki lost half of their daily players base ... there must be a reason, no? The answer is probably in a wrong (or "to be adjusted") experience mechanics, in the drugs unbalance, in experienced players starting over and dominate over newbies and, on top of these real issues, the poor customer care. B.
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This V-LOG is very much like a politician campaign ... a lot of bla bla bla and quite opposite reality! I am sure you all do a hard work, yet you do some things in the wrong way. You talk quite a lot about support to players, attention to forum and care of players ideas and question, but in reality you don't face problems, you don't give answers, you close topics that are of no interest to you, you often make fool of us players! (of course I can prove what I say) This is your "customer care" ... not much! You cannot pretend to drain a lot of money out of people, while giving back little! And "customer care" is part of the work! You don't realise that safisfied players become (in percentage) smily payers! This both in enjoyment and game playability and in forum customer care.
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Ma .... davvero voi chiamate un 25% "sconti"??? Dai dai non scherziamo .... sono sconti se parliamo del 50%, no? Se a Natale fanno un 25% sicuramente mollo Tanki ... non riuscirei a comprare una mazza! Finirei a giocare con M1 contro buyers a M2+ (che diventa M3) .... sarebbe come .... da noi si dice "pisciare controvento" (vengo da città marinara!!! consentitemi il francesisimo!!!) :)
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Un piacere! Il problema di rico è che fai M3 al mio rank, quindi come seconda ti devi trovare un'arma che faccia M3 presto perchè con rico M2 sui 4 ranks prima del mio non fai niente! Però rico e hammer sono diciamo simili come campo di applicazione ... ma sono ottimi tutti e 2. Inoltre rico M3 è una bomba! Thunder non è male e puoi già farlo M3.
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Ciao Secondo me è divertente. Si esprime al meglio a M3, nel senso che confrontato con le altre armi M3 è tra le più forti. Non è necessaria una mira precisissima. Buono l'impact force. Adatto a mappa di medio piccole dimensioni. Il difetto è il tempo di ricarica dopo il caricatore di 3 colpi, ma basta capire il meccanismo per sapere quando attaccare. Solo mie opinioni B.
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Ciao! Di idee ne ho proposte tante anche io, soprattutto per aumentare i flussi di cassa in alternativa all'eccessivo uso di droghe! (vedi http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=246957&page=71&do=findComment&comment=4714520) Io ho fatto qualche stima sugli utili di Tanki, basata sui dati pubblici di Alternativa Platform (la società proprietaria) e escono parecchi milioni di dollari di utile netto ante tasse. Poi considera che 2 delle 3 sedi di Tanki sono in paesi a bassissimo costo del lavoro e ancor più bassa imposizione fiscale, quindi di tasse ne pagano poche. Dal mio punto di vista la ottimizzazione fiscale si potrebbe ancora migliorare di molto, ma pagano poco anche cosi!!! Comunque a occhio l'1% delle tue royalties non sono a 9 zeri .... ma a 3 si :) Buona giornata a tutti! :) B.
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I am saying that Tanki and Xbox are two different markets. Why don't you compare Tanki with Suzuki, Ikea, Microsoft or Linux? It would be just the same kind of comparison! Everything costs money to be made ... but how much? and where this money has to be invested in? It is different! Happy Easter :D
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You cannot compare that! X-Box and similar have hardware, promotion, advertising, distribution, shops worldwide, after sale, assistance, spare replacements, guarantee. Only distribution will be 25% of the product costs!! You cannot compare 2 different worlds!! :)
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I have to disagree with you. I know you are joking, but I made some estimates. How can you say that they earn little money? Do you know wages cost in Singapore? Working costs in Russia? Servers spaces costs? Premises costs? I do ... not precisely but sufficiently correctly to make a good estimate! Try to make some calcs and you will see that they are covered of gold! Which is, to be clear, a fully right thing! I appreciate a successful business! Yet they should do something more on customer care and players satisfaction! Or the business will soon blow up!
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