:lol: :lol: :lol: ;) Sometimes when I am right next to a railgun , I have seen them hit when aimed/pointing/fired 90 degrees off. This seems to decrease with range though :rolleyes:.

Corrosion - mid-long range , Roger -short range

Noob question. Do paints improve % protection, always based on base armor protection numbers or do they imporve according to MU'ed armor protection numbers?

Cedar might give you an advantage in a duel with another thunder user, or equal it out with them if they have cedar too. Winning such duels is a particular satisfaction. However what you really need to look at is how many hits you can survive in a hunter and does a paint infer any advantage in surviving more hits with whatever hull you are using versus the expected weapons you would be getting hit by. I use avg. damage/hit If it does not give you an extra hit then it is not worth it. If it does then you have to think about it. Both the Hunter M1 and the Viking M1, need a little extra to usually survive 2 hits by M1 Shaft(190) and Rail(200), and 3 hits(210) by M1 Thunder. Corrosion will do that. Cedar will enable an M1 Hunter or Viking to survive 3 hits(210) by Thunder with fair certainty , and maybe a 4 th hit rarely. And it works against Thunder self damage- which is less nowadays. Also Cedar does that masking thing when in vegetation/bushes, which is something to think about. You may have noticed that with forrester too. All figure are based on lower MU levels but assume some. 1-5 or so. I don't expect there are many full MU M1's.

Nah, he just didn't know what they did. :lol:

What is up with this ? 3 times today while using a TITAN, I have had an enemy WASP or HORNET drive into my tank and proceed to push my heavier tank up in the air and then my tank blows up???? Because of this new anti- "jump?" hack code change I suspect. . There is no way a light tank should be able to PUSH UNDER AND LIFT a HEAVY tank. :angry: The Heavier tank should always be the one staying on the ground, when two tank collide on level ground. THIS IS NOT RIGHT and I expect an answer or at least some excuse from someone. Obviously it was not play tested enough, or perhaps all the playtesters were driving light tanks, if it was even tested before implementation. You're about to see a flood of this tactic being done if it is not fixed. And a lot of people angry. I suggest this issue to be investigated and something done ASAP.

That is OK. My idea was for no crystal buyers. Instead of saving for months, you get better stuff immediately. And when/if you buy the next level(even if you don't upgrade everything) , it is cheaper. Me, I am looking at upgrading M1 stuff (except for some cheap stuff), and fight with that , till I can acquire an M3 set. That could easily be a year. But I am thinking they may have a total reset when they switch to unity. So player equipment sets now may mean nothing in 3,4,6,9,?.MONTHS. So I can run M1 against M2 till then. I have to do this anyway because I cannot buy crystals now.

The way it is now with MU's upgrade to the next level, IF you don't buy crystals , there is no down side to constantly upgrading, it may cost more but you get a constantly better weapon.

Excuse me, I forgot you had 120K. Buy the M2 rail , and the stinger kit if you can during this sale. That will get you M2 hornet at discount, plus M2 Isida(at a double discount) which is good. It will give you a long range weapon and short range weapon combo. Plus will give you the proper combo and paint(fracture) for XP, even that doesn't matter to you. it might be worth having for the future.

This is some kinda "anti-hack" thing running now , that prevents the perfectly good tactic of "dive-bombing". In the case of this change, it was a change for the worst, as far as regarding that tactic.

Be cheaper to upgrade , Hornet /Rail to M2, which would also let you play XP, However I would prefer M2 Dict/M2Thunder, would scare more people.

You don't have a chance of seeing one for another 5-6 ranks.

Hide in some heavy bushes , with lead paint, and just launch chaos with Thunder. You will be blowing people up and nobody will know where from.

YEs i realize what the "load" term meant. However Hammer does not do full damage at 30-40 meters. At that range a few to many pellets will miss. SO yea , I guess I wondering if he meant "load" as a "full load" or just a "load" , I took it to mean full load , which is not correct

It is supposed to be a big bad tank. Heck, some days with my M1 Rico/Titan I am the big bad tank on the battlefield :D .

I would wonder why why such a tank would not use Zeus -with 50% fire protection. :lol: , Anyway neither of those paints provide long range protection. And to be honest all M4 is stuff is pretty fierce. Especially with Drugs. I never bothered to try the test servers, I only saw how Vulcan worked at around my rank levels. I used it , fought against it, used other weapons, I would not say it was OP, it was another long range weapon and was interesting in that respect and certainly took more skill to use than rail or shaft. BUt rail and shaft players simply didn't want more players being able to play the long range game. Vulcan wasn't OP , it was just competition, and it was competition from people who didn't like the "cheap shot" no skill aspects that are often involved in long range battles. Now I did see Vulcans dominating the field sometimes, but that was with heavy drugging AND Isida and freeze support. HOWEVER any tank and player should be BIG and BAD, with unlimited drug use and the support of 2-3 players. Hell , park a M4 shaft/Titan on a long range battlefield with constant double firepower and drugs and 2 isidas supporting him. They would be big and bad too. They could certainly 1 shot a Titan M4 ;)

I agree, but I doubt they will. While the Vulcan still does good damage close range, the Vulcan was not meant to be used as a close range weapon, and it is lousy now at long range, which is what and why it was introduced. The whining of some Railers and Shafters , is what got it changed. Pathetic, cheap shot, mediocre players, that don't like competition.

Tundra would give about 234 armor , Corrosion 198. defending against rail, Rail inflicts about 105 per hit (86-127) this is with rail with 3 MU's Basically Tundra takes 3 rail hits to die , Corrosion 2. This is with no MU's to paint or Viking. A few MU's on Viking armor(say 5 MU's for +30), there would be little difference in the 2 paints defending against rail. ( both paints-would take 3 rail hits) Smoky is not as common as Shaft or Thunder . And 10% smoky protection doesn't matter much , about (-3 pts per hit). I ' d go with corrosion. And those 2 (+15%)'s would help a fair amount, plus the +15% against self-damage. Also neither paint is compatible with XP/BP, 20%rail paint is required there.

What do you mean?

There is a 50% paint sale on June 5 before the hull(6th) and turret(7th) sales, It will be 22 then. :) I thought you had enough set back for M1 Hornet/ M1Rail already. If you don't, yea, follow the rule( turret, Hull, paint) , in case of this sale and you got the $ it is backwards of course. ================== For funsies , IMO, meanest M1 set is , Dictator/Thunder/Corrosion

If you plan on using M1 rail/hornet , on Monte Carlo , you really only need Lead to protect you aginst shafts . If you really want to buy a paint for that Hornet rail combo , instead of buyin g Dirty , I would strongly suggest corrosion, It would still keep shafts from one shotting you, plus it gives the same rail prtection as Dirty , and corrosion also protects against thunder, which would help on a hornet in Monte Carlo.

Okay, in relation to my first post about a possible slight improvement. I just realized due to my rank , a very few people might have bought the M2 version , which does do more damage than M1. I just thought NOBODY was buying any new mod of Vulcan after the last reset considering the actual changes.

Weird.. WHere is that chart from? Damage for Vulcans has always been listed as DPS. However, no I don't think it does THAT kinda damage now. Note: To other poster, yes they did reduce DPS by 8. They ALSO reduced weak damage from 50% to % 25 that means Vulcan damage was HALVED, past 30-50 meters depending on M level.- That was where Vulcan was nerfed to the point of it being USELESS to use as it was meant to be used, as a long range weapon.

With an M3 Mam, tell people to go around you <_< . Don't see why you're complaining , M3 Mam is as fast as M1 Titan with is what I drive. If Mam went same speed as Tit no one would buy Titan. Upgrade your speed to 5, and tell those wasps to get out your way :D

I can agree with this. Basically what you are trying to do with MU's on M1 Hornet(118), is to be strong enough not to be one shotted by shaft(135) or rail (115)of the same level with maybe adjusting for a few MU's . You can also add paint protection, so 118 + 10.5 + say 10% paint = 140 or so (M1 Hornet)