I managed with freeze m2 too. Because I perform well with it, does that mean the turret is good? That's like saying, if you doing terribly with twins, that twins in general is underpowered. It's a matter of individual skill. Freeze is finally getting it's main feature back. Nerf the damage if you want, but the freeze effect is perfect as it is. Against m3 turrets before, the freeze effect barely did anything. You would come up completely behind someone, and they would turn their turret completely around in 2 seconds UNDER FREEZE EFFECT. Firebird should do more damage than freeze, but the effect needs to work, meaning that you can't hit the freeze if he's circling you. That is not OP, it's the defining feature.

Well as I said before, this is not my first acc. Also, m3 firebird turns pretty fast. As I said before, if you think freeze is overpowered, nerf the damage so it's less than firebird. Firebird should be the damage-dealer. Nerfing freeze's damage is fine, but the freeze effect has to stay the way it is. That is the defining feature of freeze. AND YOU ARE THE NOOB TO THINK FREEZE WAS BALANCED BEFORE. The majority opinion was that it was the weakest turret.

I want to know, are the devs aware of this and working on it? Someone please give me an answer. Thanks.

EXACTLY dude. You said it better than I could have. To all who think freeze is overpowered now, READ THIS. Freeze should be able to circle faster than your turret can turn, that's not overpowered, that's just it's special effect. Just get a medium range gun and stay out of it's range, which happens to be the second shortest in the game.

Lol Yes, and because freeze and firebird are OP in Polygon does not mean they are OP in general. The point of Polygon CP is to spawn, wave your turret around while holding down the spacebar in the general direction of the enemy, make the battle fund go up, die, and respawn.

A poll would not show what specific parts of the update people don't like, and none of the devs care anyway.

October 31st.

And my hornet got a hp AND speed nerf, but no drifting is great for circling with freeze.

Awww.... ;)

Hey everyone, I know there are no sales on MU's and less chance of gold, but it's really just selfish to complain when you are getting all these sales. I personally don't mind new paints to the SHOP exclusive, as they signal "buyer" and don't give an advantage in battle. If you want to spend money on a look, go right ahead.

Read my earlier post that shows how all the turret changes are to make people buy the alterations.

Sales Perfectly coincide with me getting hornet m2 :)

Thanks for the sales :)

Well at least the rare isida user will not encounter any enemies with isida protection...

Well that is not what he is talking about. Everyone knows this glitch, it's annoying but not totally game-changing and unfair. THe new glitch where your shots just disappear or don't register is very unfair and frustrating, and they need to fix it fast.

True, but nowhere in there does it say we can't complain. And btw Hello, i saw your alt this morning :)

I still think it's highly probably that there will be an alteration for railgun that brings back the old characteristics. And the whole point of making rail reload faster is to sell the Dictator-Railgun format.

But watch an alteration come out that makes rail reload longer and do more damage and impact force.

I don't play much xp/bp, but it seems railgun is better now, at least against ranged turrets.

Unless you buy the m3 modules, they are useless and a waste of crystals. You barely notice the effect and you will have to buy the m3 anyway, leaving it unused in your garage.

There is a new glitch with shaft after the update. Some of the shots won't register. It's not that I won't see the damage counters, it's more like the shot just disappeared. WHen I say disappeared I mean that I don't see any orange lines that the shaft makes, and the person does not take any damage. It seems a lot of people having this problem. Its not due to lag or something with my computer as lots of people have experienced this. I cannot shoot a stationary m0 hornet with m2 shaft. It doesn't die, and there are no orange lines. Could you please fix it? Thanks.

This is a new glitch. On my shaft acc some of the shots don't register when I'm fully charged, scoped in, a shoot an m0 hornet at point-blank range. The shot just dissapear.

Reducing the damage is fine, because that is what firebird is for and is not the defining feature of freeze. But the freeze effect is good as it is. The Devs just gave back freeze one of it's main characteristics.

STOP WHINING THAT FREEZE IS OP PLEASE!!!! Unless you are playing with m3's, you have no right to comment on the freezing effect at all. So be quiet. For those who do play with m3 turrets and hulls, the freeze was the most underpowered turret before. This update makes the freeze effect take hold faster in exchange for less charge, and a little more damage. However, now the freeze effect becomes a part of the strategy of the turret. Before, there was no point in circling, as people would hit you anyway. There was no advantage of freeze at all. The only time in which the freezing effect came into play was for slowing down flag takers, and that was a team effort. Freeze was, with it's long charge and little freeze, just a crowd-control gun that did a decent amount of damage. The whole strategy was taken from it. Now, you have to utilize the effect. THE WHOLE POINT OF THE FREEZE EFFECT IS SO THAT YOU CAN"T HIT IT WHILE IT IS CLOSE TO YOU!!! Get that into your craniums. Because it's annoying that you can't hit it while it's circling you, that is the whole point of the effect. What's the point if the opponent can hit you while you're circling him. The freeze effect HAS TO BE STRONG enough to ensure that you don't take much damage. This is not overpowered, this is just the unique feature of this turret. It's not overpowered if you can't land a shot on it while it's beside you firing, it's part of freeze's gameplay. There are tons of ways to kill freeze users, staying out of their range being one of them. Of course, it will be really powerful on smaller maps, but that's like saying shaft is way too OP because of how they perform in stadium. Many people say freeze is now OP because you can't hit them at all. THAT IS THE POINT. If you are finding freeze OP then you are just a noob who doesn't know how to beat them. Also, people are not used to freeze being this competitive, and the difficulty of adjusting leads you to think they were overpowered. It's time for freeze users to stop being cannon fodder for firebirds and twins. AND THE M3 TURRETS TURN FAST ENOUGH. Freeze has turned into a hit-and-run weapon, rather than a charge-into-that-group-of-enemies-with-the-spacebar-pressed turret. That's firebird. And the charge time means that the damage per a full charge is almost 200 hp less. That's a big nerf right there.

EXACTLY!!!! SOMEONE WHO AGREES!! Its not overpowered, you guys are just not used to freezes actually killing you and fighting back after being cannon fodder for smoky, twins, and firebird. So stop whining!!!!