What to buy? Which is better?

[ok_hand 95]

subjectively, it is really worth +6mil to upgrade armadillo?

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

On 3/1/2024 at 2:18 PM, ok_hand said:

subjectively, it is really worth +6mil to upgrade armadillo?

I say yes as critical damage ignores your normal modules. I would like to have one myself so I can at least tank those stinking critical mines. Almost everyone is using Falcon, Griffin, Owl (and maybe Eagle) but no one talks about mines when they deal around the same damage (actually 100 more normal damage) as Railgun and Magnum (and Gauss).

Edited March 3, 2024 by FrozenRailgun

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 3/1/2024 at 3:18 PM, ok_hand said:

subjectively, it is really worth +6mil to upgrade armadillo?

If you have nothing else you want to spend those crystals on, then yes. On a 50% sale of course. 

 

Only a few of my accounts have it upgraded and they never take it off. I can't speak for its effectiveness before 2023 but I know that from there the value you got from it increased, as the critical hit rates of the turrets in the game right now is the highest it has ever been, and pretty much every turret has more than x1 critical damage that makes them take fewer shots to kill you. 

 

It's especially good against all those damn Railguns and you no longer need to fear Hornet or Dictator OD. 

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 3/2/2024 at 1:56 PM, FrozenRailgun said:

Always everyone is using Falcon, Griffin, Owl (and maybe Eagle) but no one talks about mines when they deal around the same damage (actually 100 more normal damage) as Railgun and Magnum (and Gauss).

Mine damage is not enhanceable with boosted damage supply. That is a key difference. People mainly complain about mines when they're fighting Saboteur drones. 

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

And.... Railgun + Magnum's crit shots are enhance-able with boosted power. Railgun is just happened to be easy to use and with its major 25% damage boost if crit.

TBF, I'd rather get clapped by a Shaft's sniper shot than a Railgun, Gauss, Magnum (and Scorpion...)

[ok_hand 95]

What are your top garage modules one should upgrade upon reaching general? Feel free to add all if you want.

My picks are probably rail, thunder, scorpion, vulcan

[FrozenRailgun 1,771]

On 3/4/2024 at 1:31 PM, ok_hand said:

What are your top garage modules one should upgrade upon reaching general? Feel free to add all if you want.

My picks are probably rail, thunder, scorpion, vulcan

It really depends on what annoys you the most.  Here are what I have seen the most: 

Armadillo (Extremely useful to counter module-piercing crit damage but gated behind containers/special event)

Falcon (almost everyone uses it, possibly because Railgun is easy to use, and it can dish out big module-piercing damage without Armadillo.)

Fox, Weasel, Badger (let's just say there were armies of them during the recent Deathmatch event)

Owl and Griffin (Gauss and Magnum 20 meters of splash radius...)

Eagle (not the most common but I do see them often (I always use it with my main combo). Has to do with its OHKO ability.)

Vulture (Scorpion's aiming mechanism is nuts. Can lock a target even when it scrambles to a shelter.)

Grizzly (Is Thunder that easy to use as Railgun?)

Everything else are not commonly or almost never used. 

[demon09 89]

With Mammoth and Defender, should I get

Smoky or Ricochet for a mid range turret?

And Railgun or Scorpion for a long range turret?

[ok_hand 95]

On 3/2/2024 at 12:56 PM, FrozenRailgun said:

I say yes as critical damage ignores your normal modules. I would like to have one myself so I can at least tank those stinking critical mines. Almost everyone is using Falcon, Griffin, Owl (and maybe Eagle) but no one talks about mines when they deal around the same damage (actually 100 more normal damage) as Railgun and Magnum (and Gauss).

 

On 3/2/2024 at 3:52 PM, TheCongoSpider said:

If you have nothing else you want to spend those crystals on, then yes. On a 50% sale of course. 

 

Only a few of my accounts have it upgraded and they never take it off. I can't speak for its effectiveness before 2023 but I know that from there the value you got from it increased, as the critical hit rates of the turrets in the game right now is the highest it has ever been, and pretty much every turret has more than x1 critical damage that makes them take fewer shots to kill you. 

 

It's especially good against all those damn Railguns and you no longer need to fear Hornet or Dictator OD. 

Part 2 of my question is do you think I should buy Armadillo now in Team Contracts or wait for Tanki Fund? It's not like I have 6million crystals I can dump on it right now. I don't even have my 4th module slot unlocked! Aren't the crystals I have is better spent on upgrading my turrets/hulls/drones/modules to max? Arma has always been available on the 2nd or 3rd to last level. How have Tanki Funds been recently? What level has the community reached? 

[ok_hand 95]

On 3/5/2024 at 12:45 AM, demon09 said:

With Mammoth and Defender, should I get

Smoky or Ricochet for a mid range turret?

And Railgun or Scorpion for a long range turret?

If you're playing mammy defender you're best spent not engaging in long range fights. don't buy rail or scorpion unless you have an insane augment for them. i'd suggest smoky because it doesn't need to reload like rico does. rico needs to hide to recharge its energy, which takes a good amount of time. if you're a rico mammy with empty energy, you'll jsut be a sitting duck getting pelted while you're reloading. of those 4 options, smoky is the best. 

[demon09 89]

On 3/7/2024 at 8:07 AM, ok_hand said:

If you're playing mammy defender you're best spent not engaging in long range fights. don't buy rail or scorpion unless you have an insane augment for them. i'd suggest smoky because it doesn't need to reload like rico does. rico needs to hide to recharge its energy, which takes a good amount of time. if you're a rico mammy with empty energy, you'll jsut be a sitting duck getting pelted while you're reloading. of those 4 options, smoky is the best. 

Thanks for the advice!

A video recommend F2P players to get 1 long range turret and 1 short or medium range turret, but I'll consider skipping it.

My favorite thing is to play aggressively and also to find a good hiding spot close to the enemies and harrass them from there as long as I survive with the large HP, and Mammoth's OD is fun to ambush players with.

Edited March 7, 2024 by demon09

[ok_hand 95]

Is Scorpion fun? Magnum? Gauss? 

[The-Robin-Hood 0]

Greetings!

I played the old version of this game for some years, quitted, then continued with the Alpha version of the new engine (until access premissions expired). First of all, (of topic) I would like to confirm if the web version and the desktop version of the game are one of the same? 

And the main reason I came here, I would like to know what should I buy and when is the best time to do so. I remember there used to be kit boxes with all the meta ranked tanks, do we still got them? I couldn't find any...

As for my specs:

Rank: general 4

Turret: Railgun MK7-2, Smoky MK3-7, Ricoshet MK5-6, Isida MK7-5, Freeze MK4-6, Firebird MK5-10

Hulls:

Wasp MK3-1, Hornet MK4-5, Viking MK7-3, Titan MK2-1, Mammoth MK5-3

Budget: 155k crystals

[Tekken 374]

On 9/27/2024 at 10:48 AM, The-Robin-Hood said:

Greetings!

I played the old version of this game for some years, quitted, then continued with the Alpha version of the new engine (until access premissions expired). First of all, (of topic) I would like to confirm if the web version and the desktop version of the game are one of the same? 

And the main reason I came here, I would like to know what should I buy and when is the best time to do so. I remember there used to be kit boxes with all the meta ranked tanks, do we still got them? I couldn't find any...

As for my specs:

Rank: general 4

Turret: Railgun MK7-2, Smoky MK3-7, Ricoshet MK5-6, Isida MK7-5, Freeze MK4-6, Firebird MK5-10

Hulls:

Wasp MK3-1, Hornet MK4-5, Viking MK7-3, Titan MK2-1, Mammoth MK5-3

Budget: 155k crystals

1. They are same

2. No Kits unfortunately

3. best time to upgrade and buy is during sales which happen to be almost once per month. Its usually 30 %  discount, so save crystals for such occasions. 

I dont know whats best for you, I dont know what playstyle you like or what you consider fun, those are factors you should consider.  

If you do not have brutus drone lvl 20 upgrade that first, if you have then it depends on augments you have and again playstyle/whats fun for you. Everything can be good with good augment. 

I recommend you to upgrade only to mk7-10 or something like that because last 10 upgrades are pretty expensive and difference is  not that big. So you should rather upgrade something else for saved +-200K than upgrade last 10 steps. 

Whats generally OP is scorpion at least with wolf pack augment or any legendary/exotic one. And now striker but only exotic augments.  Fire and Freeze are good but you have to have protections and better drones to be able perform very well.  If you like to have alternative modes  where you support team as an healer and occasionaly kill someone isida is a good way for you. If you have vampire nanobots for isida you can play agressive.  Rico and Smoky are both good, I would suggest rico over smoky, because smoky now has a pretty weak crystal augments, and it has weird aiming mechanics.  Rico has very good crystal augments, adrenaline for bonus dmg, long range augment (minus field stabilization) short/meele range augment (plasma torch) and if you need splash dmg it has destabilized plasma.  Status effect augment are solid for rico too because of rate of fire, and helios and berserk are  best for rico. 

I do not play railgun but if you like defensive gamestyle then its for you, or if you have good augments for it. 

Edited September 30, 2024 by Tekken8

[The-Robin-Hood 0]

On 9/30/2024 at 9:30 PM, Tekken8 said:

1. They are same

2. No Kits unfortunately

3. best time to upgrade and buy is during sales which happen to be almost once per month. Its usually 30 %  discount, so save crystals for such occasions. 

I dont know whats best for you, I dont know what playstyle you like or what you consider fun, those are factors you should consider.  

If you do not have brutus drone lvl 20 upgrade that first, if you have then it depends on augments you have and again playstyle/whats fun for you. Everything can be good with good augment. 

I recommend you to upgrade only to mk7-10 or something like that because last 10 upgrades are pretty expensive and difference is  not that big. So you should rather upgrade something else for saved +-200K than upgrade last 10 steps. 

Whats generally OP is scorpion at least with wolf pack augment or any legendary/exotic one. And now striker but only exotic augments.  Fire and Freeze are good but you have to have protections and better drones to be able perform very well.  If you like to have alternative modes  where you support team as an healer and occasionaly kill someone isida is a good way for you. If you have vampire nanobots for isida you can play agressive.  Rico and Smoky are both good, I would suggest rico over smoky, because smoky now has a pretty weak crystal augments, and it has weird aiming mechanics.  Rico has very good crystal augments, adrenaline for bonus dmg, long range augment (minus field stabilization) short/meele range augment (plasma torch) and if you need splash dmg it has destabilized plasma.  Status effect augment are solid for rico too because of rate of fire, and helios and berserk are  best for rico. 

I do not play railgun but if you like defensive gamestyle then its for you, or if you have good augments for it. 

Thank you for your Reply! I do like to play more aggressively, whether it is in DM (using isida for self heal) or CTF (using railgun to hit enemy chasing after me mid sprint).
However, now with all the new turrets and hulls skills, big bombs and auto aim, I'm not so sure what I should play, how should I adapt to the new game?  Does the old turrets (dmg wised) still holds water against the new ones? I'm also not sure what do you mean by "augments"? are you referring to the old paints dmg reduction effects?
As for the burst drone, I got it level 20 for free when first login back to the game, should I invest in a new one or focus on hulls and turrets first? 

[Tekken 374]

On 10/1/2024 at 12:23 PM, The-Robin-Hood said:

Thank you for your Reply! I do like to play more aggressively, whether it is in DM (using isida for self heal) or CTF (using railgun to hit enemy chasing after me mid sprint).
However, now with all the new turrets and hulls skills, big bombs and auto aim, I'm not so sure what I should play, how should I adapt to the new game?  Does the old turrets (dmg wised) still holds water against the new ones? I'm also not sure what do you mean by "augments"? are you referring to the old paints dmg reduction effects?
As for the burst drone, I got it level 20 for free when first login back to the game, should I invest in a new one or focus on hulls and turrets first? 

Augments are alterations for your turrets, it change how they behave, for example You can have Thunder augment for short tange - dealing more dmg at short distance but having weak dmg for long ranges. Or Healing augment for Thunder - if you hit someone who is your teammate you will heal them, or you can have long range augment for thunder ,dealing more dmg at long range but less dmg at close range. OR there are augments that can increase your reload speed or crit rate. 

Its not only about turrets nowadays, its about augments,  Augments - Tanki Online Wiki (tankiwiki.com)

Every other drone aside of brutus will cost you 1M crystals to fully upgrade (or 500k during 50 % sale) so I would not focus on new drone for now, just save crystals for sales, do daily missions and event missions to have containers so you can get something valuable from them. You can then decide if you want to invest to turret you have good augment for or maybe upgrade drone (I suggest defender drone if you want to use another one) 

[Rydge 7]

Currently my main combo is [VAT Vulcan + HI Ares + Crisis], sometimes switching to Incendiary Band and Heat Resistance. Those are all Max'd except for Crisis which is Lvl 19.Other Mk7-0's I got are Paladin, Isida, Gauss and Scorpion. For Modules, I got Vulture at 40%; Wolf, Lion, Grizzly, Owl and Eagle at 30%; Orca, Falcon and Griffin at 25; and everything else is at 20 (except Armadillo at 5%).
I usually play at Mid to Long ranges, and tend to stick to more defensive/support roles, so I rarely go for flags or rush the enemy base unless I feel like I need to. Short range is not for me unless I'm playing with Isida (in which case I'm playing as a Healer and not as Damage Dealer anyways), or if the map is small and I just have to deal with it. With that, I'd like to know if people have any suggestions on what to upgrade next, since we're in a 30% sale, or if should simply wait for a 50% one which we never know when will happen.

I was thinking about getting Twins at some point, since I don't have a Short Range Turret yet and already got Pulsar for it, but with the current 30% sale I can only upgrade up to Mk6-0 and don't know if that's good enough when everyone is Max'd Legend at this point.

I was also thinking about getting Defender just so I can keep boosted defense with damage supply for the Incendiary Band but, again, I can only upgrade it up to Lvl 10 with the current sale, and at that level I think even Brutus is better.

Finally there's Modules, and that's the real crystal killer. Idk what are the recommended thresholds for each Module without having to upgrade them to 50% - which is super expensive - nor which ones I should prioritize. I'm more focused on the Mid to Long Range Modules, since Short and Melee Turrets you can avoid completely by staying out of range.

Edited November 9, 2024 by Rydge

[KillerGnat 3,135]

I know I may be speaking to the void with how dead the forum is these days, but I'm desperate for advice. The last time I played consistently was about 6 years ago right after the first couple drones were released. Since then a lot has changed, including the meta. Back then I had an M3 Smoky/Dictator at Brigadier and was a formidable competitor for my rank. Now it feels like I'm killed on spawn by whatever wild and wacky turrets and augments are OP. I feel like an ancient artifact trying to barely scrape by in a modern, hostile Tanki.

With all these changes, I'm wondering what it would take to make me somewhat competitive again. I'm a Major General and my best turrets are Smoky Mk7-10 and Rico Mk7-2. Best hulls are Dict Mk7-7, Titan Mk6-2, and Wasp Mk6-2. I have a level 0 Brutus drone that I bought when drones first came out and 26% protection against Firebird, Freeze, Smoky, Twins, Ricochet, and Railgun. And I have plenty of supplies.

So first off, is that garage somewhat decent? I feel like back then M3 Smoky and Ricochet were pretty busted and Dictator wasn't the best hull but it held its own. 

And what could I do to help my garage out a little. I've got 353k crystals to help out. Should I invest in another hull but stick with my two main turrets? Should I upgrade my drone or protections or turret/hull? Augments? Should I buy 7,000 speed boosts so I can go sonic fast and no one can ever catch me? 

Please help. I'm stuck playing XP/BP right now because at least that hasn't changed for 5 years, but I want to relive some of my matchmaking TO experience and be able to finish at least top half in my team once.

Also, I have no idea how things are bought anymore. Can you never straight out buy equipment and you just have to upgrade it to the next level? Is there still a rank cap on certain equipment?

 

[krokorok 836]

On 11/16/2024 at 5:00 PM, KillerGnat said:

I know I may be speaking to the void with how dead the forum is these days, but I'm desperate for advice. The last time I played consistently was about 6 years ago right after the first couple drones were released. Since then a lot has changed, including the meta. Back then I had an M3 Smoky/Dictator at Brigadier and was a formidable competitor for my rank. Now it feels like I'm killed on spawn by whatever wild and wacky turrets and augments are OP. I feel like an ancient artifact trying to barely scrape by in a modern, hostile Tanki.

With all these changes, I'm wondering what it would take to make me somewhat competitive again. I'm a Major General and my best turrets are Smoky Mk7-10 and Rico Mk7-2. Best hulls are Dict Mk7-7, Titan Mk6-2, and Wasp Mk6-2. I have a level 0 Brutus drone that I bought when drones first came out and 26% protection against Firebird, Freeze, Smoky, Twins, Ricochet, and Railgun. And I have plenty of supplies.

So first off, is that garage somewhat decent? I feel like back then M3 Smoky and Ricochet were pretty busted and Dictator wasn't the best hull but it held its own. 

And what could I do to help my garage out a little. I've got 353k crystals to help out. Should I invest in another hull but stick with my two main turrets? Should I upgrade my drone or protections or turret/hull? Augments? Should I buy 7,000 speed boosts so I can go sonic fast and no one can ever catch me? 

Please help. I'm stuck playing XP/BP right now because at least that hasn't changed for 5 years, but I want to relive some of my matchmaking TO experience and be able to finish at least top half in my team once.

Also, I have no idea how things are bought anymore. Can you never straight out buy equipment and you just have to upgrade it to the next level? Is there still a rank cap on certain equipment?

 

You look like a familiar face from long ago. Dictator has fallen off massively and it is very sparsely used. Most people these days use either nontrack hulls like Crusader and paladin or Viking or at max Hunter as their ODs tend to be better in medium hull meta than Dictators. If you want to use Dictator, its best to share the OD with teammates to take advantage of the 20 points you get for sharing OD effect, and use the Supercharge effect with turret and augment that can take advantage of those 10 seconds of 100% critical damage.

Dont spend crystals on supplies, if you plan to play semiregularly, you will get a bunch of them from containers anyway. Drones are absolutely necessary these days as without a drone your supplies are only giving you 50% power. Since you dont have that much crystals, you should defo save up for Brutus max upgrade during a 50% sale (probs Black Friday or New year sale). This is a basic drone that is fairly cheap and allows you to maximize the power of your supplies. Augments are also important, I am not sure about garage augments for Smoky, since I dont ever play them but you might want to save crystals for Rico Plasma Torch which is pretty good augment for crystals that is flying under the radar.

As for equipment a lot of it has been moved to containers. From new turrets and hulls to augments and such.

[Tuileries 3]

I need to know which drone will provide me the maximum advantage out of these two, for the below specific tank.

 

Information:

 

1. Turret = Vulcan max Mk 4

• Augment: <nil> (Yet to get later at random)
• Hours played: 22.2 (most in this account)
• Attack style: Plain straight aggressive, Aggressive drugging (just move and shoot enemies as u encounter them, unless defending a flag, rugby base, assault base).  
• (Note: Above tactic works quite well as I get 1st place in more than half my battles. In one lucky battle, I could kill approx 5 juggernauts in 1 battle, plus, a lot more players and bots)
• (I even attempt to capture the flag or put rugby ball so that the light hulls can attack from behind and actually steal them)
• (Currently, I can kill an unprotected light hull in less than 1.5 seconds if I use double damage and they don't use armor.)

 

1. Hull = Mammoth max Mk 4

• Augment: Fire immunity (unlimited shooting)
• Hours played: 22.8 (most)

 

Information vs only some turrets and hulls (to give idea without overwhelming info): 

 

1. Firebird: Does not burn, so, easiest short turret to deal with. I can actually outdps this turret and even kill it first if it is light or sometimes medium. I try to keep distance to best defeat it.
2. Freeze: Much more deadly if touched by the attack especially if freeze is atleast amateur and can get behind. Best to get rid of when at a distance.
3. Isida Tesla: Same tactic as firebird.
4. Hammer: Considering it’s clip reload, my ‘apparatus' can outdps a stock hammer, but I should beware if the hammer has augments.
5. Smoky, Thunder: I try to shoot continuously to outdps these.
6. Railgun and Scorpion: Annoying if it uses peek a boo but very easy in a front to front combat. Scorpion salvo is also dangerous if there is no tall cover around or it has some augment etc. (As I am a heavy hull, so dodging the salvo is difficult, giving me a disadvantage in that case.)
7. All Bots: Tanky to defeat because of spectrum 50% module, but still easy to defeat with standard double damage and a few seconds of time.

 

• Miscellaneous important info

 

1. Current drone: MAX Brutus
2. Owned drones: Booster Level 9, Defender costs 20,000, will buy tomorrow.
3. Action Plan: Spend on drones only during discount to conserve crystals (as I have wasted too much already.)
4. Bomb Mk 5 max.
5. approx. 6800 Armor supplies
6. approx. 7000 Damage supplies
7. Basic 6% Spider module equipped
8. Cool "Fire golem" paint equipped.

 

Edit: More words sprayed here and there and also replaced some words for clarity, and minute grammar adjustments.

Edited November 17, 2024 by Tuileries
Edit: More words sprayed here and there and also replaced some words for clarity, and minute grammar adjustments.

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 11/16/2024 at 1:12 PM, Tuileries said:

I need to know which drone will provide me the maximum advantage out of these two, for the below specific tank.

Neither. You shouldn't even be considering any of those drones where you are. They are a luxury for endgame. Only use your Brutus drone. The time for you to switch to a non-Brutus drone is very far from now. 

[Helios 718]

On 11/16/2024 at 6:12 PM, Tuileries said:

I need to know which drone will provide me the maximum advantage out of these two, for the below specific tank.

 

Information:

 

1. Turret = Vulcan max Mk 4

• Augment: <nil> (Yet to get later at random)
• Hours played: 22.2 (most in this account)
• Attack style: Plain straight aggressive, Aggressive drugging (just move and shoot enemies as u encounter them, unless defending a flag, rugby base, assault base).  
• (Note: Above tactic works quite well as I get 1st place in more than half my battles. In one lucky battle, I could kill approx 5 juggernauts in 1 battle, plus, a lot more players and bots)
• (I even attempt to capture the flag or put rugby ball so that the light hulls can attack from behind and actually steal them)
• (Currently, I can kill an unprotected light hull in less than 1.5 seconds if I use double damage and they don't use armor.)

 

1. Hull = Mammoth max Mk 4

• Augment: Fire immunity (unlimited shooting)
• Hours played: 22.8 (most)

 

Information vs only some turrets and hulls (to give idea without overwhelming info): 

 

1. Firebird: Does not burn, so, easiest short hull to deal with. I can outdps this turret if it is light or sometimes medium. I try to keep distance to best defeat it.
2. Freeze: Much more deadly, especially if freeze is atleast amateur and can get behind.
3. Isida Tesla: Same tactic as firebird.
4. Hammer: Considering it’s clip reload, can outdps a stock hammer, but I should beware if the hammer has augments
5. Smoky, Thunder: I try to shoot continuously to outdps these.
6. Railgun and Scorpion: Annoying if it uses peek a boo but very easy in a front to front combat. Scorpion salvo is also dangerous if there is no tall cover around or it has some augment etc.
7. All Bots: Tanky to defeat because of spectrum 50% module, but still easy to defeat with standard double damage and a few seconds of time.

 

• Miscellaneous important info

 

1. Current drone: MAX Brutus
2. Owned drones: Booster Level 9, Defender costs 20,000, will buy tomorrow.
3. Action Plan: Spend on drones only during discount to conserve crystals (as I have wasted too much already.)
4. Bomb Mk 5 max.
5. approx. 6800 Armor supplies
6. approx. 7000 Damage supplies
7. Basic 6% Spider module equipped
8. Cool "Fire golem" paint equipped.

I would personally suggest defender drone as it keeps you alive much longer in battles. Also I have found it to be much more better throughout higher ranks.
But it consumes 5 double armor per use, which can be a little expensive in the long term. 
More information and stats about this drone can be found here: https://en.tankiwiki.com/Defender?attempt=1

Also there is a section particularly for getting suggestions on what you want to buy: 
As this section may provide you with more responses from people.

 

[Positive 1,136]

On 11/16/2024 at 6:12 PM, Tuileries said:

 

topic merged.

[Tuileries 3]

On 11/16/2024 at 11:51 PM, TheCongoSpider said:

Neither. You shouldn't even be considering any of those drones where you are. They are a luxury for endgame. Only use your Brutus drone. The time for you to switch to a non-Brutus drone is very far from now. 

I am waiting for the crystals r.n. so obviously I won’t get them immediately and I will use them only at max level. I think I may go defender. What’s your opinion on what I should get later?

[ok_hand 95]

Minus Field/Helios/Hyperspeed Rico or Rubber Vulcan or Rubber Smoky or Uranium Scorpion? 

Magnum or Vacuum/RRE Striker or Vacuum Thunder?

Edited November 22, 2024 by ok_hand
hyperspeed rico teased