event «Tanki and The Snow Trap» mini-game 2024

[ok_hand 95]

On 12/27/2024 at 1:33 PM, Macabre said:

50k is simply way too much. 30k woulda been spot on. 

wasn't the halloween contract like 19990 or something? 

[AcnoIogia 46]

The Quasar augment for Shaft is very bad! The arcade shot is similar to Scorpion 1160 damage and 3.2s reload, but this is 1136 damage and 3,19s reload The sniping damage is 5000, for Scorpion it is 4000 so its a little bit better, but the reload is 22 seconds for Shaft and only 14 seconds for Scropion... I kinda don't understand this augment for real.

This is how it would be worth it:

(First is the OP)

Advantages

• Min. sniping damage: +185% (2023 damage)
• Max. sniping damage: +150% (8250 damage)
• Arcade damage: +120% (1562 damage)
• Arcade critical damage: +125% (2025 damage)

(Second, this is a little bit weaker, but with booster it will perform similar to the first one)

Advantages

• Min. sniping damage: +160% (1846 damage, with booster: 2076)
• Max. sniping damage: +120% (7260 damage, with booster: 8167)
• Arcade damage: +100% (1420 damage, with booster: 1597)
• Arcade critical damage: +110% (1890 damage, with booster: 2126)

My opinion about this is the minimum sniping damage should be able to kill a light hull, maximum sniping damage should be able to kill a heavy hull with 50% protection, Two arcade shot should be able to kill a medium hull, and 1 critical hit should be able to kill a light hull. The Disadvantages are already a big nerf, and it would match the stats of what I mentioned now! (Or make the sniping damage be able to kill a medium hull with 50% protection so around 6000 damage)

[Wry 93]

Consider a strong nerf to the new thunder augment "Bolter" as fast as possible. Thanks.

[0179432 146]

what's the purpose of getting 2 gingerbread from bronze contract?

[cx2014 182]

As stated «Tanki and The Snow Trap».

I stay with one word "Trap".

Edited December 30, 2024 by cx2014

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

Another island hopping event where it's the criminally overpriced April 2024 Cosmonautics Day Minigame under the guise of the Cybertanks model. The scaling is absurd. You don't even get halfway into the first lap with the free gingerbreads from the 100 kills missions. 990 Rubies gets you 5 moves instead of 10 from Cybertanks. No more +2s and +3s so you have to hit all the traps. Silver Contracts are still criminally overpriced at 50,000 crystals per contract with the same 3,000 reputation points requirements, right after an awaited 50% garage sale might I add. If you're not doing it with Rubies, you're paying half a million crystals JUST to get to the second checkpoint. All for what, a few epic keys and common keys that aren't going to be giving you anything substantial. 

Onto the 3rd Checkpoint, an actually good reward in the form of the Revolver augment. Oh well if you're so adamant about doing it without Rubies, that's another million crystals there. How many players have that lying around especially after a long awaited 50% sale? Don't even get me started on the Bronze Contracts. What the hell is the purpose of those? To trick you into thinking the Silver and Gold Contracts are fairly priced? Their addition makes no sense. The people who would really need it would be able to gain 50,000 crystals for silver contracts anyway. You cannot actually expect a random player to be using those for actual progress. Especially considering that for a large part of the duration of the event, MM lobbies can easily look like this: 

Spoiler

 

 

So again, WHO are these island hopping minigames for? It absolutely is not catered for the entire playerbase like it was 2 years ago. A system where a free player gets to Checkpoint 3 if they put in the intended amount of work (daily missions), and Checkpoint 4 if they had good luck throughout, while also gaining Tankoins to use elsewhere in the game. Now you have to PAY a high fee just to finish the Checkpoint 2 which hardly gives anything. Forget the Tanki Funds. If there's an event template that has been buried into the ground at a rapid rate over the years, it has to be these island hopping ones. 

[0179432 146]

On 12/30/2024 at 9:16 AM, TheCongoSpider said:

Don't even get me started on the Bronze Contracts. What the hell is the purpose of those? To trick you into thinking the Silver and Gold Contracts are fairly priced? Their addition makes no sense. The people who would really need it would be able to gain 50,000 crystals for silver contracts anyway. You cannot actually expect a random player to be using those for actual progress.

Prob a dumb question, but where do you get the other 8 gingerbread to be able to move a spot after completing the bronze?  I can't find other bronze contracts in the shop

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 12/30/2024 at 5:50 PM, 0179432 said:

Prob a dumb question, but where do you get the other 8 gingerbread to be able to move a spot after completing the bronze?  I can't find other bronze contracts in the shop

Bronze Contracts are perpetual. When you complete one, you get 2 Gingerbread + another Bronze Contract. If you don't see it after completion, reload the game. 

[0179432 146]

On 12/30/2024 at 1:54 PM, TheCongoSpider said:

Bronze Contracts are perpetual. When you complete one, you get 2 Gingerbread + another Bronze Contract. If you don't see it after completion, reload the game. 

Thx

That's a crazy amount of grinding to move up only one spot 

[Hypersomnia 1,695]

On 12/30/2024 at 7:16 PM, TheCongoSpider said:

Another island hopping event where it's the criminally overpriced April 2024 Cosmonautics Day Minigame under the guise of the Cybertanks model.

well to be fair i see it as just criminally UNDERPRICED Scamoween minigames we had in the past. I'll take my slow grindy way over me spending 20k tankoins to get 1 checkpoint just to get pushed back 15 spots. FIFTHTEEN. And get literally nothing because I couldnt reach the checkpoint in time. Now for 20k rubies I got the entire minigame done with some rubies to spare. 

The island hopping mini-games are now targeted towards dolphins-whales instead of F2P-Whale. With way more different minigames that are actually very useful for F2P as a compensation I guess. I see no problem with the current system besides them making it guaranteed +1 instead of +1 and +2.

On 12/30/2024 at 7:16 PM, TheCongoSpider said:

started on the Bronze Contracts. What the hell is the purpose of those?

It's to troll players by making them accidentally activate bronze instead of silver/gold. I refuse to believe any other answer. And the strategy works since Russian forum is filled with ppl accidentally completing bronze instead of gold contracts lol. And they also are rousting the hell out of some random mod. (and he plays into it instead of just deleting the comments and giving ChatGPT ahh text. wink wink nudge nudge english forum)

 

On 12/30/2024 at 7:16 PM, TheCongoSpider said:

MM lobbies can easily look like this

the fact that flying hulls are not separated from normal hulls is actually criminal with the current disbalance between them.

 

On 12/30/2024 at 7:16 PM, TheCongoSpider said:

So again, WHO are these island hopping minigames for?

for dolphin and above players. you need like 20 Gold contracts to complete the entire minigame  and 30ish days is more than enough time. its just not F2P friendly anymore simple as that. You got Sakura Coin events etc. as comp.

[krokorok 838]

On 12/30/2024 at 6:16 PM, TheCongoSpider said:

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You are right about the analysis of this event, but I believe its not that hard to decipher what Tanki is doing here. This event has been transformed mostly for the paying playerbase. From the perspective of average regular f2p player (lets say people who play only missions/have incomplete garages/dont have many crystals to spare/and or play less than 2 hours a day), there is nothing to gain in this event, you will not even make it to the first checkpoint. The way it is set now is by selling Gold Contracts which makes them money and provides the best way of progress for buyers. The only f2p players who win with this event are endgame players with maxed garages, millions of crystals saved and enough time to finish several Silver contracts a day as now they have the opportunity to go past 4th checkpoint if they nolife enough and are willing to pay for the Silver Contracts.

For example, I finished the Halloween minigame as a f2p player. It cost me 4.7 million and around 5k supplies in MM (if it wasnt for the Firebird event, it would probably be like 7-8k supplies). Of course this was a steep price to pay and I had to spend around 4-5 hours of playtime every day, but in the end I got all the skins from my favorite line and put the otherwise useless crystals to good use. Tbh, I was expecting Tanki to nerf the progress for next minigame, because they probably realized a lot of nolifers got stuff for fairly cheap price (fairly cheap from the viewpoint of endgame player of course). I got +2 like 10% of the time and managed to avoid 50% of the traps. SO I kinda won big time with that event. I think they saw through this, and giving their tendencies with rewards this past 1-2 years, they went ahead and nerfed it further. Frankly, at this point with no new players and no advertising, I dont see anything getting better, quite the opposite I expect a lot of the events being super pricy to complete and if not, then having some catches (like that racing event that was being sold as free, but if your faction was eliminated you spent time getting stars for nothing)

As for Bronze contracts, they are only a marketing tactic to sell the illusion that there is a free way to earn currency, that will actually cost u more than completing Silver and probably even Gold Contracts because if you would try doing Bronze contracts, you would have to be spending ungodly amounts of time and supplies in MM which just isnt feasible for even the biggest nolifers. For me, the only reason I ever activated Bronze contracts was when I captured like 8 points of currency in Golds in events and did the rest 2 points to get 10 points for one jump. There isnt really any point in them the way they are set now.

As for the timing you are right, its bad, but that is the result of them pushing too many events into basically every month, this also happened with the extremely overpriced Tanki Fund that was preceded by other better evets like Assemble the Tank and Freezer games. There will always be a bad timing for something because they just push so much down our throats to the point when no regular player can keep up with it anyway.

Edited December 31, 2024 by krokorok

[ChastityAndLust 1]

far too expensive

 

[1st 124]

Got it

[Tekken 374]

On 12/27/2024 at 7:33 PM, Macabre said:

50k is simply way too much. 30k woulda been spot on. 

could not agree more, or they should at least put in shop 1 silver contract PER DAY for 10K , we could get 9 ginger from daily missions, now we have to buy silver contract for 50k not to mention event missions now give 70 instead of 210 ginger... its too much even for players who has full acc. Bronze contracts are ridiculous... they should increase ginger from 2 to 4 or  create random (and fair) chance to get from 1 to 6 ginger per completion. 

[Nuclear 126]

On 1/3/2025 at 1:14 PM, Tekken8 said:

could not agree more, or they should at least put in shop 1 silver contract PER DAY for 10K , we could get 9 ginger from daily missions, now we have to buy silver contract for 50k not to mention event missions now give 70 instead of 210 ginger... its too much even for players who has full acc. Bronze contracts are ridiculous... they should increase ginger from 2 to 4 or  create random (and fair) chance to get from 1 to 6 ginger per completion. 

it costs ~5.5m crystals/20k rubies to finish the minigame

the rewards: 5 skin, 2 skin key, 3 aug, ~220 common cont, ~100 epic cont, 15 weekly cont, ~500 snow grenade, ~150 bomb grenade, ~2k supply each, 40 nuclear energy

 

we can complain for a lot of things in this game, but i believe that the price of the contracts are fair enough

[Alsar 592]

On 1/3/2025 at 2:14 PM, Tekken8 said:

could not agree more, or they should at least put in shop 1 silver contract PER DAY for 10K , we could get 9 ginger from daily missions, now we have to buy silver contract for 50k not to mention event missions now give 70 instead of 210 ginger... its too much even for players who has full acc. Bronze contracts are ridiculous... they should increase ginger from 2 to 4 or  create random (and fair) chance to get from 1 to 6 ginger per completion. 

People were previously complaining they couldnt get more energies/lollipops/gingerbread now they complaining about the cost of contracts. To me 50k for 1 silver and 1k rubies for 1 gold contract is fairly priced only thing i would change from the minigame would be to bring back +2 since there was a balance while having it on the minigame, you could finish it with the average number of steps around 100 although now you guaranteed to spend more than average needed number of steps to finish around 120

Edited January 3 by Alsar

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 1/3/2025 at 10:49 AM, Alsar said:

To me 50k for 1 silver and 1k rubies for 1 gold contract is fairly priced

Fairly priced for whom? The casual f2ps being slaughtered by overtuned turret, drones and hull augment combinations in groups or the long time f2ps and buyers who've already climbed up the ladder over the years? Did it really take just 8 months to forget that these events were free to start? 

A discounted silver contract available for 24 hours every day is a good middle ground between before and the current Contracts system. Perhaps they can decrease the overall rewards from Checkpoint 2-3 the increase the reward gap between that and Checkpoint 4 for the people who decide to push further with currency. That is much better than a random player paying 500k crystals for something they got for free not long ago. 

[Nuclear 126]

On 1/3/2025 at 4:31 PM, TheCongoSpider said:

Fairly priced for whom? The casual f2ps being slaughtered by overtuned turret, drones and hull augment combinations in groups or the long time f2ps and buyers who've already climbed up the ladder over the years? Did it really take just 8 months to forget that these events were free to start? 

A discounted silver contract available for 24 hours every day is a good middle ground between before and the current Contracts system. Perhaps they can decrease the overall rewards from Checkpoint 2-3 the increase the reward gap between that and Checkpoint 4 for the people who decide to push further with currency. That is much better than a random player paying 500k crystals for something they got for free not long ago. 

I support the idea of adding a discounted silver contract in every 24hrs, but you have understand that there are players sitting on 10-20m crystals and there has to be events where we can spend it. (lower price would result lower rewards)

[TheCongoSpider 8,942]

On 1/3/2025 at 12:18 PM, Nuclear said:

but you have understand that there are players sitting on 10-20m crystals and there has to be events where we can spend it. (lower price would result lower rewards)

That sounds like gatekeeping entire events away from the majority of the playerbase to satisfy the few at the top of the ladder. Island hopping events aren't the only place to spend crystals. You have other events, you have new equipment in the form of grenades and whatever else new they decide to bring out while the majority of the playerbase does not have that luxury to just spend on whatever they want, whenever they want. They are still progressing, still building their garage at different stages because they joined/played the game at different time periods with different restrictions. 

[Nuclear 126]

On 1/3/2025 at 5:35 PM, TheCongoSpider said:

That sounds like gatekeeping entire events away from the majority of the playerbase to satisfy the few at the top of the ladder.

 

That's the part u misunderstood. The minigame event the only one that requires huge amount of crystals, the rest of the events don't, and even if you can't finish, you still can get good prizes. (I don't want to repeat myself, but as i mentioned before, lower price would result lower rewards)

[POWER-OF-ONE 164]

On 12/30/2024 at 10:01 PM, 0179432 said:

That's a crazy amount of grinding to move up only one spot 

As the devs intended.

 

On 12/30/2024 at 10:23 PM, Hypersomnia said:

the fact that flying hulls are not separated from normal hulls is actually criminal with the current disbalance between them.

Agree.

Trashcans should be scrapped, along with all augments.

On 1/3/2025 at 2:49 PM, Alsar said:

To me 50k for 1 silver and 1k rubies for 1 gold contract is fairly priced

=Delusional.

 

On 1/3/2025 at 4:18 PM, Nuclear said:

but you have understand that there are players sitting on 10-20m crystals and there has to be events where we can spend it. (lower price would result lower rewards)

AW poor them for having all those crystals and nothing to do but get supplies with them, BUMMER.

Stop whining about how many crystals "YOU" have with nothing to spend them on. As with many, many players that get on this forum, you mostly complain from a Legend's viewpoint, not realising that there are many players that have much lower accounts with a mediocre amount of supplies and not much of anything else.

The top and bottom of anything and everything associated with THIS GAME is that it is way overpriced, especially the event side of it, the "JOKE" shop not withstanding of course, which is a disgrace.

On 1/3/2025 at 4:35 PM, TheCongoSpider said:

You have other events, you have new equipment in the form of grenades and whatever else new they decide to bring out while the majority of the playerbase does not have that luxury to just spend on whatever they want, whenever they want. They are still progressing, still building their garage at different stages because they joined/played the game at different time periods with different restrictions. 

Couldn't have put it better myself.

 

On 1/3/2025 at 4:54 PM, Nuclear said:

(I don't want to repeat myself

I will.

You are yet again posting your disdain from a Legend's (all maxed out) viewpoint.

@TheCongoSpider Hit the nail on the head with his post (squarely on the head)

 

Edited January 3 by POWER-OF-ONE
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[Alsar 592]

On 1/3/2025 at 11:27 PM, POWER-OF-ONE said:

there are many players that have much lower accounts with a mediocre amount of supplies and not much of anything else.

 

 

Deal with it

[WieLKo-PoLski 318]

I have to say I’m really disappointed at that mini-game. Just as many „updates” in this game.

Advantages:

- New, pretty good prizes there (depends) – Yeah, if that’s an advantage it depends what we know about them and if we like them or not. I mean those new augments and skins. For sure it’s a great way to get them without need to pay real money, but that means we’ll have to play a lot more to get it (I’ll mention it later).

Disadvantages:

- Costs of contracts and amount of moves we get for them – Huge disadvantage of this mini-game! Firstly, Golden Contracts. In the past for 990 Tankoins (We haven’t rubies in game yet) in CyberTank 2024 mini-game  we could get 100 Energy to make 10 moves. Currently for the same amount of Rubies (Which replaced what we used to buy for Tankoins, except Tankoins paint) we get only 50 Gingerbreads (which has the same function as Energy in mentioned CyberTank mini-game) to make 5 moves. Same cost and less moves!! Secondly, Silver Contracts. In the past CyberTank 2024 mini-game for that type of Contract (Not special offer of it) we had to pay 30k crystals (29 900 to be exact) for 10 Energies = 1 move, now for the same amount of moves we have to pay 50k crystals (49 900). Same amount of moves but the cost is higher! Thirdly, Bronze Contracts. Not sure if I like that it’s only available from 1st check to the end of the event for whole time for free. It does really show that if we are willing to pay less to get those Gingerbreads, we’ll have to play more to get them. A lot more. Just 2 Gingerbreads, which is 20% of 1 move, so we need like 5 Bronze Contracts to get 1 move. For me they are pretty useless since I have more than 1 milion crystals, so I can get Silver Contracts. I don’t know, maybe there are for few poor players that can’t afford getting Silver Contracts to somehow try get something in entire game... let’s move into next point.

- Moves – Only +1 or -1 (50% of moving one field back that when entering them) That means we can’t espace any traps and we can be moved back many times. For example in CyberTank 2024 we could make 1 move or 2 moves, but there could be chanes to be moved back 1 field (Same in „Trick or Treat” Minigame 2024). And that’s what I liked. We could escape some potential traps and move more forward than currently. A risk depending on luck.

- Prizes for Checkpoints 1 and 2 and costs of getting there -  But first, the „path” of mini-game. Assuming none of traps work, from Checkpoint 1 to Checkpoint 2 we need 18 moves and for the rest of path between checkpoints, we need 17 moves, so in total as you can see in event website, we have to make 103 moves (103 – 18 – 17*5). But it’s highly unlikely that happens, so we’ll  need a lot more than that. And because silver contracts require 50k crystals (rounded) to make 1 move, from CP1 to CP2 we need at least 900k crystals (18 * 50000), while for rest of path between islands at least 850k crystals (17 * 50000).  So, for spending +- MILLION crystals we get a: Some special paint, possibility to use bronze contracts, 10 nuclear energy supplies, +1 protection module slot and 15 common keys. As I’ve mentioned that +1 protection module, once again we see such news regarding that slot:

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„*If you already have all 4 slots unlocked, you won’t get any compensation reward.”

so that’s another great reason to discourage players from taking part in that mini-game. Those 15 common keys won’t even return 1/4 of the crystals we spent to acquire it. Totally not worth it. Maybe in the next Checkpoints prizes are better (depends because not everybody might like those skins + some of augments are not that good, which says opinions above), but the cost of reaching CP2 might discourage them to go further). As @TheCongoSpider mentioned, many have spent their crystals on 50% sales and you think they still have milions of crystals to go for all prizes there?! You think everyone got so quickly maxed whole garage and don’t have anything to spend those crystals?!

Now some general talk: What the heck is happening with this game?! Many times getting constant nerf of prizes when having to put a lot more effort to complete them, not just for F2P players but also for buyers (Gold Contract containing 5 moves in current mini-game instead of 10 in many past mini-games, e.g CyberTank 2024, not everybody who won Rubies from Rubyfund spend them on Gold Contracts), Epic Keys prize for super mission nerfed from 15 to 3 and Advent Calendar super prize from 5 to 3, Silver Contracts costing more, but containing same amount of moves, Gold Contracts having less moves when the cost is the same. If you don’t want to increase prizes for specific cost, at least don’t decrease them when having the same cost. I won’t even mention the unfamous Inactive accounts deletion (1 year inactivity for non-buyers and 3 for who bought at least once for real money) which made many people abandon this game FOREVER!! No, they won’t begin again from zero after such time, after spending lot of money in this game, after spending hundreds or even thousands hours here!! And I’m not suprised many think tanki classic won’t succeed. People just won’t trust it + many have already quit game forever and spend time having fun with friends irl., find husband/wife or simply begin adult life or find something better to do with their lives + no updates.

It looks like you try to get rid of as much old tanki „veterans” as possible, especially F2P ones. I have a feeling not just F2P ones. Don’t you think it’s time to end such madness?! Are there even so many new players coming to this game?! What I’ve heard from Taspens Interview with Opex Rah Tanki may be ready for advertising, hope it’s not a lie... Cause this is really going into really bad direction!

[POWER-OF-ONE 164]

@Alsar Ok saddo I will do my best, what a fruitcake.

[POWER-OF-ONE 164]

I think this event is aptly named, tanki and the snow "TRAP" Quite literally.