Hi, I created a new thread which was closed to "keep discussion in one thread". Agree, if there would be ONLY DISCUSSION and NOT A SINGLE POST saying only "Yeaaah! It`s awesome, it`s joy to play" or "No, I did not like it". ... So, here's what I've got to say (and please don't pick on my english, I'm not a native speaker): First let me point to some differences of how developers and players might look at the result. If 99% of the hard work is done the developers have a solid reason to be proud, however players (customers) might focus on the 1%. This is not whining -- who would like a car that work 99% -- it means it will fail you in 4 days a year .. Anyway, whats good 1. The new look is fresh and despite of more details the framerate has gone up so even on my laptop its not a problem any more and I can even switch on the skybox. 2. Tanks look like plastic toys -- very appropriate :lol: Questionable: 3. Explosion when tanks is destroyed -- looks artificial and if I had a tuning option I'd switch it off. 4. Ricochet plasma balls look a lot like twins electric balls -- I cant imagine why that was changed. Pit of jar in a honeybot 5. While the tracks are kinda moving, from a side tanks look still like monolithic boxes -- that looks really weird. In TO 2.0 preview the sides were animated too so it can be done. I will be looking forward to see that change too. Again about DCC and moneymaking: The updated tip says "visit us every day and you will be rewarded by a gift" Since DCC is not a gift diving DCC instead of gift is cheap cheating on clients. There are other ways to make money Lieutenant_Me proposed "why not to sell billboards as advertising space?". Whats wrong with that idea -- absolutely nothing. Its brilliant. If needed, DCC's could be offered additionally on random days -- come on, how much would TO loose, if they would give supplies every day. If this is really too much, just reduce the amount of the daily gift. Just don't fool customers.

Hi, So the new release is out and there are a lot of comments already about it. First let me point to some differences of how developers and players might look at the result. If 99% of the hard work is done the developers have a solid reason to be proud, however players (customers) might focus on the 1%. This is not whining -- who would like a car that work 99% -- it means it will fail you in 4 days a year .. Anyway, whats good 1. The new look is fresh and despite of more details the framerate has gone up so even on my laptop its not a problem any more and I can even switch on the skybox. 2. Tanks look like plastic toys -- very appropriate :lol: Questionable: 3. Explosion when tanks is destroyed -- looks artificial and if I had a tuning option I'd switch it off. 4. Ricochet plasma balls look a lot like twins electric balls -- I cant imagine why that was changed. Pit of jar in a honeybot 5. While the tracks are kinda moving, from a side tanks look still like monolithic boxes -- that looks really weird. In TO 2.0 preview the sides were animated too so it can be done. I will be looking forward to see that change too. Again about DCC and moneymaking: The updated tip says "visit us every day and you will be rewarded by a gift" Since DCC is not a gift diving DCC instead of gift is cheap cheating on clients. There are other ways to make money Lieutenant_Me proposed "why not to sell billboards as advertising space?". Whats wrong with that idea -- absolutely nothing. Its brilliant. If needed, DCC's could be offered additionally on random days -- come on, how much would TO loose, if they would give supplies every day. If this is really too much, just reduce the amount of the daily gift. Just don't fool customers.

Accidents happen ... of course ... but once the promise was made there should be a clear and loud explanation ... calling players ******s instead ... PR helllooo? I've payed money to help you to keep the service up and running ... just don't push it too much -- it isn't tough luck any more. The daily gift is kinda a promise from TO (as well as a free game) too and don't be pedant here. You should appreciate people who complain ... would you better like the ones who leave quietly ?

True. In 7 days, I got 4 double crystal card. In other words, if you dont have DCC you will get one :twisted: Wouldn't it be easier to lower the official price instead of fooling plyers ... oh right, I am ****** and Tanki Online managers are wisest on earth and in the universe :twisted:

This kind of behavior is called deception, lying, misleading etc. Businesses do this if they fail to stay in the competition .. But since you call other people ******s then of course you are 100% right and everybody has to listen to you ... And of course, without illustrations you can't make your point. If you are the official representative of TankiOnline then it explains everything. PS! about the small script that says, that "Even Maksim Khusainov, Tanki's Online Russian Community Manager thinks... " Indeed, if even Tanki's Online Russian Community Manager thinks somethink its truly right. Gods have spoken. AMEN. :twisted:

1. The promise was made ... cant they estimate the time needed for updates ... thats what I'm about, not that there aren't enough updates ... 2. Yes, its completely random with probability over 50% of getting DCC 3 & 4. ... No comments :P Yes, I can see how desperately they need money ... AFAIK this is not a good sign. PS! And yes, Ive always had a critical thinking and there have always been persons, who doesn't like this :)

Hi, Is this the end of Tanki Online? Why? Because: 1. They cant keep their promises about development 2. They desperately ask for money -- for many days the chance of getting Double Crystal Card as a daily gift is over 50%. Since DCC is not a gift but the clear message -- "No gift to you today. Pay us money" -- they don't care about players at all. You all know the meaning of red card in football :) Well .. am I disappointed ... NO. Because : 1. I spend more time with WOT anyway. 2. If current management of TO fails, somebody else will buy it and probably will wipe out some of these unfair rules.

If its because of the images I post then you'd better find another reason to criticize :wink: I use them as inside jokes, which let you understand the emotion behind each situation far better than the provided emoticons. So please don't caps me for my humble act :oops: Well, you think that everybody has to see your emotions presented by your favorite characters ... When people grow up they realize, that they have to respect other peoples tastes too ...

You kindly stop those caps :P In this case ... NO :P I didn't use caps by accident ... if one posts stupid images I'll use CAPS.

WHY CAN'T YOU JUST SAY WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO SAY. WHY POST THIS SILLY PICTURES? COMPENSATING FOR SOMETHING? WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO BLOCK IMAGES IN THE POST's?

You got lost in your mind ... if one has M0/M0 and is up against M3/M3 (Marshal) he/she should find another game :lol: New system supports and encourages this :twisted:

You may see it this way, but this explanation is very questionable -- while player is getting up to WO he/she learns something. I believe, that this rule is beneficial for those, who have already passed lower levels one or more times -- it means secondary (third etc) accounts. Another interpretation of this is that historical lower ranks have become completely meaningless in the game ... :roll: What does that mean ? The idea itself is fair and one more positive side is, that from now on one doesn't have to watch out not to kill higher ranks on polygon DM. It does alleviate indirectly isida problem, but its more like side effect.

Holiday paint :) Green triangle ... or maybe yellow this time :) Award to smartest "investor" :) Award to best cheater :) Award to last tankman still playing TO :)

Based on my experience (I check daily gifts for 14 accounts) every month is a period when the probability of getting DCC is very high -- I guess it's a payday in TO or something like that. During these 4-5 days there is a 40% chance of getting DCC. Otherwise the probability is ca 14%.

There is a cheaters epidemic after epidemic in Tanki Online. And they still refuse to discuss possible measures with players as well rejecting other ideas. Only promises that they are working ... All thies trial-error method takes too long to find the working anticheat solution -- that way TO will come to its end soon -- whats the point of playing if in 90% of games is a cheater or many. Why there isn't a topic to criticize the current and possible anticheat technologies? So that hackers wouldn't know how to avoid it ... :roll: Come on, it's a classic opens ource versus closed source question -- security through obscurity doesn't work, it's a short time temporary measure. Example: Diffie Hellman key exchange is well know yet still secure. Because its well designed not because its secret.

All presented options may need drug.

PS: Cheaters aren't just annoying, there are so many of them again, that playing games is pointless. Besides, I have reported 8 cheaters with evidence in last 3 days, somebody should block them.

Viking = Hunter M3,1 So it depends, what do you have. If you have Hunter M3, buy thunder, otherwise Viking.

Hi, In the thread with the same name it was said that The current high number of firebird speed cheaters look like epidemic again and I can't help myself asking : When will the cheaters eventually give up ? :twisted:

Hi, Yesterday I played a game with heading "Without isidas and shafts" One guy (Marshal I think) joined with Mammoth+Shaft. I asked him, is he doing it on purpose and if then why. He said he didn't know the games was without shafts and soon returned with Viking+Ricochet ... No problems at all ... just the spots in (good) games doesn't last long enough you could read all names, conditions etc.

The players who enjoy the game, play by rules and accept the loose if opponents are better. Young players screem for bigger guns, bigger tanks just to smash everything and to get the feeling of being so powerful and invincible.

Don't start again with this. So and so there's too many stupid isida players who run by not healing you :x ... xp should be bonded on damage you made with your hit and not on kills ... Beside of that isida is only weapon who can't hide and sit on spot and collect points with constant killing. ... ONLY really good and hardworking isidas are those who can "steal" me first place in a game. Hi, First, I agree, that points should be given by damage caused -- but in real game it would be quite complicated to implement. "Stealing kills isn't a crime" -- I guess that was either in railgun or in thunder quide. Isida can hide and collect point with constant healing, Isida is the only weapon that can earn point safely without facing enemy and without a risk of returned fire. Isida doesn't have to work hard to get to the first place. Its a myth. Maybe its true in some battles but in most battles you can conveniently just collect points. When I was on some WO level I once was quite active in one battle with isida -- trying to make myself as useful as possible among experienced players. After a while two freeze's started to push me away and push me over -- the reason was I've got on the first place without even noticing it myself ... Since then I try not to be very active healing "big fish" :) Unless I deliberately join druggers :twisted:

Then this box must be invisible -- for safety reasons :roll: