OK, I see, in DM not getting killed is important. Yet 1. It would be an indirect way to reward this. 2. The progressive nature of this reward is still unclear. Better make it simple in DM - since 5th kill (incl) you will get 20% more points for every kill until you die. Fair and motivating enough.

why complain use isida then you always win Win? How do you expect to win, when you have only isidas in your team since everybody else left? I'm talking about loosing -- your teammates leave, since for them there is nothing to win and you will not win alone.

No :) You explained how it works, but you didn't explain, what unfairness it would eliminate. It certainly would cause several new biases that would influence the game -- have you took all these into account? Basically its a reward for not getting killed ... how not getting killed helps the team and why it must have a special reward? I'd rather say, that the biggest issue with points is points to isida for healing. There are just too many games where isida(s) gets to the top so quickly that many players see no point fighting the game for isida(s). You all know how it ends.

Hi, I did some math and the results support my empiric proposal. The fact is, when releasing 2nd generation hardware, Tanki Online abandoned the first and successful game model. The numbers below are based on weapon cost and weapon unlock rank experience points and show the ratio how many XP you can spend on getting 1 crystal, if you want to have enough crystals for upgrade when its available. Example: if your score in battle is 1000 (experience)points and the reward is 100 crystals your ratio is 10. I believe I'm above average player and maintaining average ratio 10 on WO level isn't easy. NB! Please remember, that getting better ratio in one battle doesn't count if you can't keep this high ratio constantly. NB!NB! Please remember, that you have to upgrade the body too. The current settings: Price Rank XP Ratio ------------------------------------- Smoky 0 0 30 500 17 90 3700 36 300 12300 29 Firebird 5 1500 40 3700 55 120 12300 72 400 29000 42 Twins 10 3700 50 7100 68 150 20000 86 500 41000 42 Thunder 500 57000 1500 76000 13 4500 98000 5 14000 125000 2 Freeze 550 76000 1700 98000 13 5000 125000 5 15000 156000 2 Ricochet 650 98000 2000 125000 14 6000 156000 5 18000 192000 2 The proposed settings: Price Rank XP Ratio ------------------------------------- Thunder 500 57000 1500 98000 27 4500 192000 21 14000 390000 14 Freeze 550 76000 1700 125000 29 5000 233000 22 15000 455000 15 Ricochet 650 98000 2000 156000 29 6000 280000 21 18000 527000 14

I had something like that or similar in mind http://www.audiosparx.com/sa/summary/play.cfm/crumb.1/crumc.0/sound_iid.35208

I can see why you don't like the proposal :) However, changing weapon/tank unlock ranks can't be called discrimination. Exactly !!!! People want to play with people around their level of ability and such. That's why I proposed this idea. I understand, that having M3 Thunder+Viking trashing M1 tanks is kind of a fun ... but only for the one who has this M3 ... other players were hoping to play with more-less comparable opponents.

Right now Tanki is oriented to "luxury" segment (Average purchase $100). Why don't they spread into much bigger middle class segment (Average Purchase $5). How many players wouldn't pay $5 in a month to have top hardware of the rank? Come on, its less than the bills for cellular(mobile)phones.

If you mean that you logged into another server you maybe didn't loose anything. AFAIK Different servers might have different knowledge about you. I once reached a new rank on one server, then logged into another and still had my old rank and experience. Wait till tomorrow and if you still don't have the experience you gained this a bug IMHO. PS! I'm a regular player not a developer or something.

Hi, I have been wondering many times, why catching the gold box doesn't have a special audio notification. The other messages of the same category (Flag taken, Flag returned, Flag Captured) do have audio effects. I can't keep an eye on the messages on the top constantly so some special sound, if somebody gets the gold, would be great.

Rule for this dont exit and should be. 13-15 player WANT to play without SHAFT and ISIDA in no supply Tribute... But cant becouse of K.L.E.R.I.K and other similar ignorant noobs... Sometimes being nice and saying sorry will move mountains :wink:

If I would need more than 3800 crystals immediately that card would make sense. Otherwise no.

You should rephrase your question. What do you mean by "same strength"? Kills in certain period? The weapons are more or less the same strength, maybe with the exception of smoky and firebird. Otherwise everybody would use only one weapon :) Twins can deliver most continuous firepower in 21 seconds and more. In short distance Freeze will kill many enemies most quickly. In long open range thunder will cause most damage. In long range where you can also hide the railguns is most effective Shaft can destroy a tank in a moment from distance if it knows the spot of enemy appearance in advance ... In middle (open?) range ricochet has a high chance to win ...

I'm sorry, what do you expect from admins? Do you expect them to break the rules or to change the rules?

Hi, There must have been a discussion on that matter, who remembers could post a link. My question is: why gen 2 weapons are made available (unlocked) on that low ranks ? I would propose the following unlock ranks for M0, M1, M2 and M3 respectively: Thunder: WO-1, WO-3, 3rd L, Major Freeze: WO-2, WO-4, 2nd L, Lt Colonel, Ricochet: WO-3, WO-5, 1st L, Colonel Shaft: WO-4, 3rd L, Captain, Brigadier It seems, that below these ranks these weapons are rare in battles giving to much advantage. To keep players playing the game must be interesting -- on ranks from WO to Lt. Colonel the game could be or become suddenly very unbalanced -- not much enjoyable. And above Lieutenant/Captain/Major there will be not much left to gain. No wonder many players leave or turn to gold collectors or fund robbers.

If there wasn't a gold box, how did 3OJIOTOLOB (ZOLOTOLOV since in cyrillic 3=Z and JI=L) manage to catch one ? :roll: More details: this Hunter tank has just activated Shield and Speed ... why? BTW zolotov in Russian means "GoldCatcher" -- that's also a nice hint. I'd say, TO should check the stats of zolotolov. I'd give Hunter tank 100 crystals -- even if the picture is fake and he gets 100 more crystals -- big deal, but if this picture isn't fake it must have been really frustrating and 100 crystals is at least some compensation.

Thats why I brought an example of sergeant. On the other hand, on 3rd lieutenant level Hormet M2 + Thunder M2 is quite usable combination. Cost 5800+6500=12300 crystals. Experience grow from W01 to 3rd Lieutenant is 192000-57000=135000 XP If you manage to keep the ratio -- 1 crystal for 10 XP -- the above mentioned combination should be possible. Are you suggesting, that shaft should easy to buy? Actually I support the idea, that modification for 2gen hardware should be made available on higher ranks -- example Thunder: M1-WO3, M2-3rd L, M3-Major. etc. In that case rank limitations in games would have the real meaning like on lower levels. Of course, that would make game more fair, meaning less money for Tanki Online. :lol:

NO. 1. Before entering the game you don't have "own" team. 2. Teams members are changing constantly. 3. Do not ask everything to be too simple.