A Brigadier already able to buy Clay, a Hunter M3 and a Firebird M3! How to describe that? A "bit" early? If that Brig. has the money and maybe also doesn 't have a life: he can enjoy a microupgrade feast. Just a protection MU 'd Hunter M3 and a damage MU 'd Firebird M3 are already OP+ ! Try also to imagine a fully microupgraded Clay: 50% Rico, 50% Thunder and 50% Railgun... And on top of that most likely an abundance of supplies. I do understand that Tanki has to make a living and that 's why they introduced kits. I get that. On the first kits there also was still restraint: regarding how many Ranks above your own Rank you could obtain certain equipment. The paints in the kits were the real icing on the cake! Now that restraint regarding Ranks and equipment (and even paints) has gone obviously. It could be a smart move that will bring Tanki huge profits: tankers who will start buying to still be able to compete. On the other hand if too many of these kind of OP+ kits appear on the battlefield, it 's not hard to imagine what the majority of Tankers who don 't have the fancy stuff will have to endure. Would such a standard equiped Tanker (who doesn 't want to buy or simply can 't buy for several reasons), and who won 't stand a chance at all when facing such OPponents, still enjoy Tanki? In a way lucky are the already top-ranked Tankers who already have quite some M3 equipment. This combined with the skills they most likely have, means they are in the clear. That is not jealousy, because I think many top-rankers are also rightly disappointed. They loose the exclusivity of their M3 equipment. A privilege they had to fight hard for, IMO as it still should be. It 's all a big question mark, even for Tanki itself I suppose, what will happen next. So Ariking777 in your point of view it still doesn 't differ that much from buying things seperately, except for the discount? Than you really don 't get it, do you? :huh:

Second that. This one particularly is a true: "you got to be kidding kit" Firebird M3: Commander ( 6 ranks earlier ) Hunter M3: Fieldmarshal ( 5 ranks earlier ) Prodigi: Marshal ( 4 ranks earlier ) Clay: Generalissimo ( 7 ranks earlier ) From Brigadier it is already a very, very long way to rank up to Generalissimo: and it just got a lot longer. And to think that in normal life I do enjoy a barbecue! Well on the bright side: now we have plenty of (short) opportunities to find out what it means to be a steak.

Another personal opinion about the "after Rebalance" equipment that I use myself. Link is from the Ricochet thread: http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=177136&page=42&do=findComment&comment=3574734

Well only one post, no replies: I am enjoying playing with my five accounts too much... Started playing this "May holidays event" with my two main accounts again, after long training time with various weapons/hulls on my three alts. One of those alts will stay as my XP combo (it is still M1, go Pro when I have it M2) so you could meet "the-Rail-King".....(as modest as always :D ) I will continue with my other alts as long as needed. Soon I will completely focus on ranking with my mains. Yes! :) The screenshot below is another example of the so called "balancing". Don 't know what tool they use for the balancing, but it definitely needs some repair! :P Below my view on equipment that I use and please put IMO after every sentence....no word! Rico and Firebird really became the two most overpowered weapons. Before the Rebalance Rico could barely make a scratch, now I almost feel guilty how easy it is to kill my opponents with my Rico M2. And I am sure I will even do better in time, because I use it to much as a straight forward gun which gets me killed, when I could have used the bouncing effect whilst staying safely in cover. Like the Splash on Thunder, Rico 's bouncing effect also has a quite steep learning curve. Ofcourse I enjoy it overpowered as it is, but fairplay? Hmmm. Thunder is still ok (not OP anymore), but you better use it in larger maps like Desert, Massacre, Kungur, Madness etc. to fully exploit the much improved mid to far-range capability. It used to be my top-favourite Polygon DM weapon, now I might choose the Rico... :mellow: Also nice, but not as engaging as the "old" Thunder was in this map! With the old Thunder with it 's higher damage the Splash was also more devastating: I myself had higher DL 's with it before the Rebalance. The self-damage of Thunder might be low now which is mostly positive (not for self-destruction though): even than it doesn 't quite cut it at close distances anymore: it became the new semi-sniping gun instead of Smoky! On my other main account I have the Thunder M2 and I will certainly get the M3. Long live the old King! Freeze is also ok. For the gamepace it is simply perfect they nerfed the You-Are-Frozen time again. Now when frozen you have a chance to fight on: before the Rebalance it almost always meant your certain death by other opponents. Damage increased a bit, reservoir slightly increased: so for the user IMO it is still a capable and versatile weapon. Put it on a Wasp and circle your enemies to their doom: I like it! Firebird? OP. Use it on my alt with a Wasp M1 and in my experience: if I go, you go... Almost impossible to survive an encounter with a fairly skilled Firebird player. Unless you have a heavy hull/ good paint. If the huge damage doesn 't kill you the now ridiculous long afterburn will (unless you get cooled by a team-Freeze) Don 't like the long afterburn myself. In DM without finding a health kit your doomed (non-drugging). Will not get the Firebird M2, because personally I prefer the more versatile Freeze, and I like the certain death it delivers: with Firebird it 's a lot more guessing (or you keep on running empty) if you toasted them enough... :unsure: Railgun is just fine. Nothings changed really. Fortunately! ^_^ Smoky. Don 't like the change myself. It used to be my semi-sniping gun. I say the following with some reserve because I didn 't play a lot with the Rebalanced version: it 's only good at short distances where in my experience the traditional short-range weapons simply rule. So I have not got a clue where it fits in now. :huh: I was heading for Smoky M2 on this account but that has become a big question mark for me. It 's more likely now that I skip it (for now, it might be OP after the next "Rebalance" who knows...) and will stick with my Rico M2 as long as it is this overpowered. Hornet is nerfed a bit, Viking too: but both hulls are still good. The regular ranking of them compared to the big gaps between lets say Wasp M1 - Wasp M2 and Hunter M2 - Hunter M3 makes these (once?) popular hulls still very usable. With the hulls I believe they actually achieved some balance this time! :D So I can live with the little nerf I received on the Viking M2 and Hornet M2. (but I will go from Hornet M2 to Wasp M2, no doubt) It 's good to have more variety on the field. More Wasps, Hunters and Dictators! In a way I also like the improvement of the Wasp when compared to the Hornet. It does makes sense. What I don 't get why the Devs didn 't choose to only improve the Wasp and simply leave the Hornet with the same HP and speed as before the Rebalance. Like if the Hornet was OP compared to all the other heavier hulls. Not so IMO. No, I can 't concur with all these "balances". Balancing should be about fine-tuning IMO, not these radical steps every single time. -_- So next time I hope they simply call it: "the Next Change" or something like that. The game gets more and more difficult for the non-buyers IMO who can 't change their garage that fast and I just hope that Tanki Online will stay that nice mixture between buyers and non-buyers. If someone for whatever reason chooses not to buy or can 't even buy, they should have a fair competing chance. It 's a free game with enough buyers to sustain it I suppose, so give the free guys who have to put in more effort some "credit". We really need both for a healthy and prospering Tanki Online! Gameplay: Desert DM, Hornet M2 - Ricochet M2 with Tundra and four/five times drugging with 2.3.4. (had an issue with a drugging Mammoth-Rail ;) ) Happy hunting!

A goodbye from me, also representing Lord-of-the-Snipers. My time as active member of this forum is over. In time I will post a Guide (my Magnus Opus ;) ) but that 's about it. Really liked most of the time I spend on this forum and really learned a lot by reading and discussing about our great game Tanki Online. We live in an exciting "Tanki-time" with all these new developments. Unity, new graphics etc.: bring it on! Happy to be in this IMO transition time, but I am not afraid that the Tanki gameplay will change a lot. The strengh of Tanki is that it is absolutely not World of tanks and never will or should be! And though I do love the game itself, unfortunately lately the forum has become mostly a place of annoyance to me. A guy who I simply wanted to ignore, just couldn 't do the same thing. An ongoing anger-issue I suppose. That would have been ok if confronted with a main account, but instead alt. account(s) were (and are) used. I will not lower myself to do the same thing and defending has proven useless. I tried but I can never succeed: though the topic is still there. Draw your own conclusions about that: if it were lies from my side or the untruth my posts would have been removed from that topic. But I will stop now, it 's already off topic again and I surely want to end with wishing my fellow Tankers good luck with their own Tanki Carreer! Some especially: Sam, Revilo, Raphael, Vettefan, Bugatti, Adam (and all the guys I may have forgot: sorry :D )! Only Rank fast if you Rank well! And...See you on the Battlefield!!! p.s. removed some of my previous posts, they were edited to such a content, links removed etc. that they became totally pointless.

In the end it 's all a matter of who spots the other one the first. ...railers do have a wider view of the battlefield... ;)

That 's the spirit Pow! Get 'm! :D No Fear Pow you have put a big smile on my face in your first posts: thanks! :)

A little bit beyond "basic" in my view. Getting on top of the Skyscraper: in my view as Parkour Noob and I do really mean a complete Parkour Noob: first you have got to assemble the largest team as possible. Next in my view you do need a lot of luck with the perfectly timed "chain-reaction" of multiple "explosion slungs" to get a light hull on top. Hope I made myself clear? Simply don 't see any climbing possibility. How many players are actually "allowed" in the Rio Map?

^^Posted just a minute to late: well, good choice!

As goku890 already said: it is great! Even Thunder M1 still works at your rank. Despite all the Rustle 's, Emeralds etc. around. Really not everyone uses those paints, many choose for example the close-range protection paints as well. And Splash is and stays a trusty friend, which deals nice blows to often already damaged tanks! :)

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Do not think that one of them is actually better. Choose the one you like to play with: that 's all IMO. Personally I would choose Thunder M2.

If you already love the Smoky M0....than you will surely even more :wub: the Smoky M1!

Thunder M2 again, or Rail M2 if you like the gameplay with it.

IMO: Not Rico M2 because it is simply not effective enough: get the Rico at M3. Fire M2, only if you really like the gameplay: it can be effective if used well. Personally do not like the guessing if you have used enough fire or not. Too much fire and you be stuck again with an empty reservoir....might be my problem though.... :) My choice would be: Thunder M2, can 't go wrong with this gun, despite all the "horror-stories" about the Thunder paints. Splash never lets you down!

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Ranked to Captain! :) (eat that you subordinate Lord) with drugs ánd other druggers : Now my Viking M2 goes into hibernation in the garage, till a decent Thunder discount comes along. Many Thanks and Goodbye Thunder M1, you absolutely were my best gun till now.... :( :( :(

Not the best result....but number one in this battle! Some of them used some drugs, fortunately no hardcore druggers (there was one in between, a 24/7 drugging Rico...to my luck he soon left). Now I will try to achieve to be the "green" number one against higher ranks. Definitely need a bigger portion of luck! Thanks Revilo for the nice challenge! You really must like buyers like me to give me this great opportunity! ;) Joking aside: it truly is a benefit for the skills to make your tank more vulnerable. Can 't longer afford to be "sloppy". Let 's pity those poor druggers who will never be able to expercience and learn this! :P Against high-rankers and druggers, NOT (yet ;)) number one... Really tried, but becoming number one against higher ranks without Thunder-protection has proven to be a mission impossible for me. Would need many, many battles to achieve it eventually. In my case this would than be all about luck and not about skills anymore. So I just keep it like it is. It was fun though! Well Revilo, how are you doing meanwhile? Time to earn some crystals now. Goodbye green, welcome Cedar! B)

Revilo interesting challenge for sure....accepted! :) Will be fighting with Smok-Ti-Thun with plain green in a short Polygon DM. Green because I already have the advantage of the Viking M2. So Viking M2 - Thunder M1 with Green. No drugs: I will make two screenshots, one from the start and one from the end. Ok? First battle today: not into it and not impressive but at least a first result. More and sure better to follow. Used one mine...sorry! :)

Depends on what Maps, battlemode and with which hull you 're playing. CTF could have non-drugging Twins, I simply have no clue about that. In DM 's Mammoth-Twins is one of the most notorious drugs combo 's I encounter. Simply a fact. Even if a player lacks skills, he can still make Mammoth-Twins work especially when he/she drugs 24/7. And that 's exactly what happens. If you are a Pro this combo works ofcourse very well. In CTF it is a perfect defender. Put a Freeze at his side and you have a nightmare duo for attackers. To control a Mammoth is peanuts and Twins itself don 't need much skill either. Nothing wrong if somebody likes it btw. ;) I play a bit with Freeze, a weapon which also needs less skills and effort than my favourite Thunder, and I simply find it quite relaxing and a lot of fun! B) I totally agree with the latter. You will definitely see more Mammoth - Twins at M3 level. The combo is nerfed a bit after the NP....especially the "speed"....but on drugs it is still OP. p.s. this was actually L-o-t-S speaking, forgot to change the name when signing in.

Well just accidentally found out that Smok seems unlocked, so one more try: than again I will not use it anymore. It 's the first name that pops up when signing in at the forum, so I have to change it now to LotS. Excuse me: back to topic

Don 't know, but thanks for asking. It is good though, because I want to make a new start. So I am not planning to use Smok-Ti-Thun again. This LotS account has also become my first main account because of the Medium M2 kit. :) Pro battles with the Lord very soon, but first ranking with Smok for a discounted Rico M2. Taking the easy paths.... ;)