True, but a Hornet does have a faster acceleration and speed, and maybe also a little bit better shape for the Mosquito-style. So in a peek-a-boo duel with evenly skilled players the Hornet has a very good chance against the Hunter.

True when you talk about CTF I suppose, but is the rank or the equipment the problem? :huh: About DM Pro-Battles I do not worry at all! Already played some of them and ended most of the times halfway in the score-list. Already good enough for my taste: I will not be and don 't have to be on top in HR battles. With the Viking M2 from the hull kit, which I will use specificly against high-rankers, and the Thunder M2 I am getting when I rank up to Captain I 'll be fine for sure! :)

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That little radar idea is pretty nice. For example a birds eye view with red little dots. Ofcourse only your teammates otherwise being sneaky would become impossible....and we certainly like sneakiness... :D Did you already put it in Ideas and Suggestions?

Madness is a more suited map for Railgunners for sure! (IMO) Yep, I really ought to do more CTF, you 're right. The problem is I am already frustrated at the start, looking out in grave expectation for the in my view inevitable hardcore druggers, in which case the best thing I can do is kiss the Flag goodbye.... :mellow: In time I am going to write a guide for the non-drugger (except the daily gift drugs at Goldbox time), maybe that will get me rid of my obsession (or make it even worse?) with drugging. I hope so! But Pro-Battle will be my rescue, so I will get rid of it soon enough !!! :wub:

I have been called friendly! It 's a beautiful day! :D It was nice fighting with you Bugatti. I really liked the Madness DM we were in together! Although I did not really like that you were the better player....and to make it even worse kept easy chatting along the way. ;) If I do that chatting it kills my D/L....I am more the silent type....but you have the skills my man! B) Only problem is that you are into CTF 's and TDM 's and I am just a Polygon DM junk. :lol: Next time meet me there, please!

ZiAa, no irony or sarcasm: Good reply: with some mature criticism ( had to look for that last word in the Dictionary again.... :) ) on the Dictator as well, and not offending at all. B) (and I don 't give minusses to a post, but a plus: yes)

Yep! But IMO you really have to have at least M2 equipment, both hull and turret, to be able to fight well and be less dependable on kill-stealing. So you have to be pretty high in rank normally... Talking about M2 equipment. Seen the medium-hull kit in Polygon DM before, but not yet combined with a skilled player. Yesterday I did. To make thing even worse the very skilled guy was a drugger too. So a (MU'd ?) skilled Viking M2 - Thunder M2 with Emerald on drugs! :o There is simply no fighting against it! :( Only with a Freezer that managed to stop it and lots of combined shots it could be killed. More than ever I am convinced that this is wrong! Druggers are already hard enough to fight against but druggers ánd a hull kit? In DM it is already hard to live with, but in CTF 's?: they get completely screwed by these ridicuously overpowered combo 's. Why not make the hull kits only available at the proper rank for at least the turret! (or better turret ánd hull). The paints in the kit could be earlier available, that is not that a big deal and the people who really want a kit, still get the 50% discount. Well Smok: nice story, but you better log in, go to the Desert Map, and speak your words in the wind there... :D

Didn 't like the old Silence at all, barely played there. Too unbalanced imo. After reading all the complaints about the new one: maybe I will like it now! :P The new Maps I have seen are nice. Madness will not become a favourite, but will be nice for an occassional DM visit. Battling around cIose to the Abyss has something....madness? Germany is nice. Visited Dusseldorf, a place with lots of nice streets and houses but with streetfights... Just looking around I visited Berlin with a Hornet (luckily not with a Mammoth) and got lost..... Last but not least the new Polygon. Not that good news for Railgunners and Shafts (also a Smoky at times) who indeed have lost the very good defendable campingspot behind the building. It was the favourite place of small-hulled druggers. Not very safe to get too, but if reached (medkit) worth the trouble. If I was playing peek-a-boo behind the two buildings close to the drop, shots from that campingspot were a constant nuisance. You could "remove" them from that spot in the old Map, but not easy and almost always had to take a hit. In short the new Polygon DM has become a bit better for the short- and medium range (Thunder... ;) ) weapons. Finally I really like the early unlocking of all the maps, gives a lot more variety! Edit: only one -1??? Come on you Old Silence lovers: you can do better than that! :P

Viking - Thunder Hornet - Freeze

You can even become a Generalissimo with hardly any skills, but with the aid of huge amounts of drugs. Drugs can certainly and will make you feel strong and invincible, but the nasty thing with drugs is you have to keep using them. Otherwise the "fairy tale" is over.... Micro-upgrades are called a (expensive) trap, well drugs certainly are! Drugging high-rankers without proper skills, can never stop their addiction because than they would fail terribly. So no Pro-Battles for those players. And those 5000 crystals you have to pay? Dirt cheap compared to hardcore drugging. Only problem with Pro-Battles is you got to have at least an M2 hull and M2 turret to have a good chance in battles. Now we have the contest between Devs and players. Well I might hope that the players at least are no hardcore druggers, because in fair-play games there is ofcourse no drugs allowed....even the Devs seem to know that.

You met me on the battlefield? :P

Tanki Online is fascinating. It is easy accesible and for a browsergame it looks stunning. The few tank controls are easy to learn and you play with and against people from around this place we call Earth. And I really like the fast gameplay. Speedy tanks and no waiting when you get killed, but your tank is simply reborn in a few seconds and on you go again! Maybe not that realistic, but if realism means: waiting to be able to just play, than I choose TO without a doubt! On the surface TO is pretty simple, but it has quite some depth in it! B) If you want more than just being able to move your hull and fire your turret at a basic level: there is lot of good info to be found on TankiWiki and ofcourse on the TO forum. Guides and other stuff, players who ask and give each other advice: check it out! It can really help you to become a more skillful player with the combo(s) of your preferance. Still there is enough to complain too (...hardcore drugging...produkt kits that are obtainable before the appropriate Rank..), but this is not the topic for that I suppose. :P

I really hope you are not right about the no in-between, but it is true that I hardly pick Smoky anymore. :( Ofcourse that might change with the M2. I actually used to despise the Thunder in the early days of playing TO: strange how those things evolve... :mellow:

^^^This is Bob. Well, I have nothing against Elephants or even Mammoths.....but the bouncing of this two-legged Bob becomes really annoying. :angry: Maybe the only way to stop him bouncing is shooting his remaining two legs too.... B) And that is also good for Bob, because now on his two legs he is tipping over the whole day long... the poor guy! Bruised his trunk very bad at those times he fell...... :( And the best thing of all is: finally he will stop bouncing!!! Than we make a fund and we buy him a Mammoth and put him on top! Bob isn 't used at speed anymore and the Mammoth is complete OP in this aspect. Nothing beats a Mammoth to it, not even a crippled snail! B) No need for a weapon, because Bob has his blowing trunk. Just put enough peanuts in his mouth and he will definitely "peanut-butter" his enemies to smithereens! :blink: Well Bob, it looks like you have a bright future ahead of you!!!

True!

4) A tank has no knees, I think? And point 3) ? It depends totally on the crit! Sometimes you have those "crit-rows" and if you are really lucky there are also a lot of already more or less damaged hulls at the same time B) : at those moments Smoky is undisputable THE King....but crits and reliability are complete opposites..... :( Some lyrics ( from Coldplay: no I don 't mean Freeze but the band.... ;) ) to make it even more clear: :D I (Smoky) used to roll the dice Feel the fear in my enemies' eyes Listen as the crowd would sing "Now the old king is dead, long live the king!" One minute I held the key (crit) Next the walls (hulls) were closed on me And I discovered that my castle (turret) stands Upon pillars of salt, and pillars of sand Ofcourse this is only some sort of trolling. :P I also think Smoky is a very nice and strong gun. And depending on the Map I will keep using it. Shooting (and killing) a lot is always fun! Only the randomness of the crit, which can be both very nice ánd truly annoying make me prefer Smoky 's bigger Brother: the Thunder. ...and its Splash-damage..... :wub:

No, it is not it 's only "weakness": also Railgun, Freeze etc. I agree with you that Isida is very strong. Maybe even OP, certainly the M2. The times I meet an Isida-Hornet combo I am stunned how difficult it is to kill it! If it can get close to your Thunder-combo, your combo has indeed barely a chance to survive. Only thing left is the final suicide shot and hoping it is enough to blast the Isida to smithereens too.... Freeze is also a major "nuisance", and not only for Thunder.....even all kind of druggers are beaten by it !

Thank you very much, my Doughnut !! :)

Viking: it 's a very balanced hull in many aspects and therefore thé allrounder. Thunder: the Splash-damage and its mass-kills

My first time with a Free Pro Battle pass, finally battles without druggers!!! : Farm (server 1): never been there went quite well, unfortunately the battle had more than 200 minutes to go...just too long now and there were guys drugging???...... :huh: Sandbox: not welcome, Railers who just want to play against each other.....ok understand that :mellow: Silence: got in at the loosing side, stayed at the loosing side.... Future: as in Silence..... :( searching, searching, etc........ Nice such a Free Pro Battle pass I thought.... Than a Highland DM: got in with a few minutes to go, went well: promising.... I decided to go for a full battle. Fortunately enough players to battle, so let 's go with my Viking M2 - Thunder M1: The result makes me happy! :) (Pro-battles can be nice, but I definetely need more firepower! So I won 't do them again till I have the Thunder M2.) p.s. please, can somebody explain how to make a "spoiler"? Already done: thanks Doughnut2100 ! B)

^ Nice one! :lol: :lol: :lol: (you shouldn 't have told that you edited it, I never do..........shhhht......) Well if this really had been your score I wouldn 't have build a shrine for you: but a temple! :D Yes, I think the D/L of 10 should be there at the end, because I had some battles which were incredible at the start. I had a D/L of 6+ for some minutes a while ago. Probably the opponents had to adapt to the mass-killer :P but than I got the normal resistance and there it dropped my nice D/L, down the drain. :( A battle of 50 is not too long, and a 10 at the end of it would be completely indisputable! (and use of paints ofcourse allowed, but not of Paint!!! :D ) As you already wrote yourself: it will probably proof to be a lot harder than you thought.... ;) You talk about your laggy internet, probably you already did it: but do you often clear your browsercache? If you don 't, than that is often the cause for lagging. (find more in Problems and Solutions) If you want to get a really good D/L you should be clear of lagging for sure! I run my browser/browsercache on RAM, technical story: http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=187660&do=findComment&comment=3335457 and I really have no lagging or technical issues at all. Ofcourse I realize it sadly goes too "far" for most people to implement it. You do not have to do the whole 999-kills battle! What I often do is jump in when it is at aroung 700 (or 800) kills. Gives you plenty of time to make a nice amount of kills and in the end you get more crystals than you would have had from a normal around 300 (or 200) kills battle. Another thing we could do is make a team. Both with Viking M1 - Thunder M1 and Cedar. :wub: A good team in DM is really helping both players a lot! I have teamed up with all sorts of combo 's, only thing I care about is skills and if he or she isn 't a drugger. What is really good is if a good team goes against a drugger. :) Can you imagine two Thunder M1 's shattering it 's HP...... B) Well, shall we do a Polygon DM together sometime? If you also feel for it, make me your friend ( in that case it must be my other account: Lord-of-the-Snipers ) and we will definitely fight a battle together in the nearby future. If not, that is ok ofcourse too, but I really think it would be nice! B)

Ok, so the "Polygon DM with D/L 10" challenge is on? If yep: you got a tough (but nice) time ahead of you Revilo! :P And using drugs at Goldbox time? Well I call myself a non-drugger, but at Goldbox time it is (1), 2, 3 and 4.... That might technically be called drugging, but it 's drugging when everybody (who is smart... ;) ) is drugging...... And than it is pure algebra: 100% Negative (drugging) + 100 % Negative (drugging) = Positive (no drugging)! :huh: and :lol: And further I only use some mines. In a battle of 100 something like 4 or so. Gets me at most 50% kills. :mellow: So I 'm considering of not using them anymore......and become a real saint...... :D Your question about my crystals: answered it before: http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=177183&page=23&do=findComment&comment=3365717 And be aware that I play those 999 kills DM battles when I have got the time: because many players leave this loooong battles before the end......lucrative, to say the least..... :) Thanks for posting my "Polygon D/M with 4.5 D/L" again! I already had completely forgotten about it !!!.... :P ...good score though..... but I cheated more or less with this main-account on which I already have the Viking M2.... :( I will use this account to fight against higher ranks than myself, earn a bit less but it will give me a better feeling towards the other non-drugging players who play without the fancy stuff. Normally with my other main-account with a regular Viking M1 I am almost always at D/L +3 playing against same ranks. And I have good hopes of being able to increase it to a maximum of around D/L 4 in the nearby future. :) I don 't expect that I ever get a much higher D/L than 4 with this "as it should be according to my rank combo" in Polygon DM. But if you really are a much better player: you might make a non-drugging 6 or 7? B) A Polygon DM with a D/L of 10??? Well the challenge is on.....and I mean it: it would be totally cool!!! B) B) B)

^^^ ....that Greyish-Blue Shaft M3 with the bright-orange glowing parts....a beauty!

But those around 10 D/L 's are made in TDM 's and CTF 's I suppose? With some team back-up I am able to get higher scores too. But in a pure DM, where everybody is attacking everybody? First see, than believe... In Polygon DM the only opponents I saw with these high scores were hardcore druggers. If you can make a D/L of 10 in Polygon DM without drugging, I promise I 'll make a shrine for you..... :D Do I already have to start building??? ;)