Ok lets carry on. Hopefully it will lead to an end of this endless returning issue we seem to have with each other. You say that I try to embarrass you. Not my intention: you started it yourself by letting "Cindershock",which is you, say: "And you dictating it will only contribute to that, which is not what we want." In that sentence is a trolling personal aspect, you want to get a reaction. I recognized the tone and a quick survey on "Cindershock" brought me to you in just five minutes. Yep, I got to much time on my hands. A sentence which Revilo indeed said to me but is out of the context, because that related to me playing those long DM battles, which you did as well to my surprise: so we both seem to have too much time on our hands don 't we? "As I've told you before, if you have something to say about me negatively, tell me in a PM rather than derailing a thread. Not up for that?" I am perfectly up for that. And the first time I was sorry, but only to discover that you are very often negative towards others on this forum, true or not? I can be negative on a topic, I won 't deny that, but I do not get personal. So why do you who gets personal very often expect other people to behave differently than you do yourself? And my intention when I had that first discussion with you, was not to embarrass you or "damage" you. I said it out of good intentions, whether you believe that or not. As I said before, many times already, but you simply won 't hear it (till now?): I believe you are intelligent, have very sharp insights in your longer reactions on this forum, but there is also a part of you that likes to "pick a fight". And in some way I seem to trigger you. But again everything above is most probably irrelevant, without argument etc. OR can we just be guys playing Tanki Online and having good on-topic discussions on the forum. I already long ago choose the latter, and I really hope you will follow some day soon. If you still want to PM with me, I am open for it.

I just outsmart you my friend, that 's all! :D

Well I won 't use and do not need multiple accounts to hide my true self behind, that 's just sad IMO. If you have something to say about or against me do it like you do it now. And I won 't react to your last quite pathetic "no argument" reaction. End of discussion. p.s. is "Khantan" one of your multiple account as well?: http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=180349&page=268&do=findComment&comment=3405936

Remaine sad, just sad: http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=175771&do=findComment&comment=3013524 Even more: http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=174263&page=54&do=findComment&comment=3014202 If you have something to say, do it under the name Remaine. I already thought that I recognized the "trolling" tone. I wasn 't wrong about you after all it seems.

No, didn 't say that. To get the full 70% discount you need to upgrade all parameters and this is way too expensive even with that discount. You better play and buy the next upgrade: the M1 Rail in your case. If you micro-upgrade equipment below M3 it is very simple. Only really worth while are: - Hull: MU the HP some (cheap) steps - Turret: MU the damage some (cheap) steps If you only upgrade 1 bar, you also get a discount, but a lot less than that 70%! I have no clue how much it will be. Will not be much that 's for sure. Maybe someone else knows how much discount on the next upgrade you get by just upgrading one parameter bar?

Very simple: nope! If you want to upgrade something on your Rail than upgrade some steps of the damage. If you upgrade a whole bar like the damage bar you get a little discount as well, don 't know how much though.

Ok, far after the sale, but Tundra in your case? Yes.

This topic will simply lead to nowhere.

Sorry, you had all the possibillities to research, investigate and ofcourse most important: to play with a weapon. You can even open a new practice account if needed, buy yourself an M0 for peanuts and try it out as much as you want. The M0 is ofcourse not so strong as an M1 or M2, but the weapon itself is basically the same. You also got the Tanki Wiki and the forum to further make up your mind. Can not blame Tanki for making a bad choice than. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Something different is a piece of equipment that you already own, gets changed too much after a Rebalance/ New Physics. That 's comparable to buying a nice high-tec television, and after a year or so the shop where you bought the telly simply comes by your house when you are not at home and replaces it with a minor medium-tec television. No refund or something like that, well the shop at least would not be a great success I suppose. :lol:

I completely agree with your view. For these reasons I bought the Medium Tank M2 kit http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=177183&page=29&do=findComment&comment=3405612. Not to be just another menace on an already too unbalanced battlefield with hardcore druggers and kits-owners. Or even worse: the combination of those two. That is pure insanity... No I am going fully into the Pro Battles with the kit. So I will be buying the monthly pass. It will be DM 's at the start, because I don 't think you will be that warmly welcomed in a CTF or TDM, but I hope to do those battle-modes as well in a nearby future. It all comes down to this: "As a non-drugger I am simply just sick and tired of constantly fighting druggers: The inevitable 24/7 druggers (sad, just sad), the Shaft and Rails with their bl...y Double Powers and especially the ones that when you (barely alive), after putting up a good fight are about to finish them, simply deploy another med-kit..."

Nice. Happened to be a Dutch guy as well, did not know that. :) We did not fight each other, but did a TDM together in Silence. I have almost never played Silence, only when I started to play TO. Way too unbalanced than. Funny actually, one of the most popular Maps...he could not believe that I suppose... :D Darn, it was infested with druggers (also a team of bl..dy Isidas ofcourse): good reminder why I don 't like anything else than DM 's in normal Tanki battles. Sad enough! :(

Ok! Make you a friend

Depends....wanna meet me in a Polygon DM? :) Can find me there with Smok-Ti-Thun with Viking M2-Thunder M1 ...or is the "party" over now?..... :P

Well the hull-kit is still nice for you, but the Hornet M2 would be just peanuts for you to buy at a 50% discount, so the only reasons for you to buy it are the Hunter and the Viking, right? In the case that you consider Viking to be the better option ( "Viking probably then... I just thought about Hunter because it is a bit smaller, but there is very little going for it... a lot more reasons to get Viking M2." ), and IF you are going to be a buyer.... ;) Than why not consider: Medium tank M2 Available from First Lieutenant to General Price: 299 900 crystals Items in the kit: Hull: Viking М2 Turret: Thunder М2 Protective paints: Prodigi, Emerald, Sandstone Supplies 50 each: First Aid, Double Armor, Double Power, Nitro, Mine (no not mine) You got the "proper" rank, you get everything at a 50% discount and compared to the hull kit you receive also the Thunder M2 and two really nice paints: Emerald and Prodigi (Prodigi is really terrific!) Emerald is great for Viking-Thunder and is already good without any MU 'ing. Thunder-protection already at 42% from the start! Prodigi can be even better! Only issue here is the Thunder-protection of 22 %, and MU 'ing it (Thunder-part can be 43%!) is incredibly, no stellar expensive... Still this paint can be used right from the start with for example a Rail-combo....46 % Rail-protection! The 50 supplies of each? Garbage bin! :D Let 's call it a future investment. This kit is worth it IMO. Well it rocks so much that I bought it for my other main-account. Just reached with that account the "proper" rank of First Lieutenant: so I also got the Rail M2 at the last 50% discount action. So Hornet-Rail (in the future) and Viking -Thunder will be the combo 's. Best part for myself is that after MU 'ing some steps of the Emerald I am going straight with Viking M2-Thunder M2 into the Pro Battles. It will not be easy, but I got some skills and I am simply just sick and tired of constantly fighting druggers. The inevitable 24/7 druggers (sad, just sad), the Shaft and Rails with their bl...y Double Powers and especially the ones that when you (barely alive), after putting up a good fight are about to finish them, simply deploy another med-kit...

Viking M2. You like a bit of speed I suppose, so going from Hornet to Titan would be probably disappointing. Considering the weapons you have, they all combine well with the Viking. Railgun and Isida are perhaps better with the Hornet, but you want a stronger hull: so than I would say Viking. Titan and Isida? Bad choice IMO. Isida is made for the Hornet! (boring though...sorry!) Titan and Rail? Is a good combo: that is if you like camping Titan and Viking can both be very good in combination with Thunder. Titan-Thunder will be more or less restricted to defending and DM 's. Where Viking-Thunder is a lot more versatile: good allrounder and is just as good (better?) as Titan in DM 's. The HP of the heavy hulls looks impressive on paper (and in combination with Double Armour it sadly is...) but having more speed really makes up for it!

^^ and ^^^ : thanks. I 'll be more carefull in battle next time! :D

At least never supply kits! :D

^ MeCTb_3a_armenia1313 I have a question for you of a totally different matter: just wondering, what does MeCTb stands for? Because I 've seen more Tankers with a name similar like yours.

Want to trade my M2 for your M3? I suppose I can cope with having less good Viking M2 memories. ;)

I think he meant that he would have saved 30k, if he had waited for a discount. If you want to buy for example a good paint than 30k is a nice start amount of crystals I think.

Moved to Viking-topic: http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=177183&page=29&do=findComment&comment=3405612

Don 't actually agree: but I do like the quote! :D

^ Half a Commander already....Fatal, you go fast and furious!

They are nice too for sure and can be easier entered earlier. And you still get into the "groove"! What I do with a 999 (or a bit less) is write down the server on which that DM battle (mostly Polygon) takes place, and visit the particular server after some time. When the battle is halfways or more and all the places are filled, it 's just waiting for the first player to leave and enter the battle. Always works like a charm. General tip: make regular screenshots on long battles, you need a proof if there is an technical error. Luckily I did not have errors for a long time, but I still remember an early 999 I did, when close to the end I had a Fatal Error.....yes I complained....but no nothing: no proof, no crystals and no happy!

Revilo, just let it go. Be a wise man like me... :D